Closed Werder Bremen 3-0 Chelsea

[didierforever 7,349]

You know what, even if Lukaku is still here and playing in this match, I'm not sure he will score goal. Just saying.

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

[sherry33 234]

When is Cavani arriving?

[quickpassnmove 924]

wank all you want on the pre-season excuse, but it still looks like the Chelsea that don't play quick enough to break teams down. Hoping for some change in tempo, Torres to fall off the face of the Earth, and maybe a change of formation. I don't see the point in pushing one CM up every time the other team is packing it in; the striker can also drop deeper for possession. Pull them out.

[iseah100 5,612]

I will pay to see what exactly it is that we do in training. I refuse to believe we practise any meaningful attacking drills with the way we play and if we do then we need to try different drills. either that or our highly paid, experienced, int'l players lack the capacity to implement the work done on the training ground in real match situations. I want to believe it's the former. we can't go into the new season with the same shit football. doing the same things and expecting different results is insanity.

You should be the coach since you clearly know better than Jose.

Eden operated at about 25% of his potential ,, BUT was still our best option .. that is worrying

He was good. But he's an immense player and out if form is still better than 95% of players in the world.

No need to worry, once he plays/trains with Cesc, Luis, and Costa more we'll be better. We have 3 new players in the starting XI, it will take some time.

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

Too bad he has no ambitions, he's not that good anyways.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Maybe indifference is an excuse for the overall result and the German's third goal was a gift by the referee, but CFC tried to pull one back in the second half and there was no finishing touch whatsoever. Bremen's keeper was needed in the two corner kicks only.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

Yeah, if you compare it with Torres as a winger. I mean if even Costa couldn't score, I don't think Lukaku could do it better.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

This is sort of a negative way to think this. Why throw away the things he has to offer as no8 simply because there is a much minor possibility of a misplaced pass.

Again, not worth it imo, and obviously i am not saying we should go Matic-Fab all the games. Some games vs top teams might require Ramires there, but the majority should be simply Matic -Fab.

I don't think it's a minor possibility. Every player can miss a pass. A 4-3-3 works best with the guys we have now is the main draw.

It seems we are using a formation for a squad we don't have any more.

[Stingray 9,441]

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

Yeah ..... He is gone however dude :-)

[edetarod 2,155]

we haven't kept a clean sheet since the first game despite playing with a very good back 5 most of the time

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

You will probably lose everything then. Seriously, this is a match thread isn't it? Can we judge a player purely based on this match's performance? Torres did ok today, we all know he's been shit as his whole Chelsea career but today, he's doing ok, period. And no, Lukaku wouldn't score those chances by default, even Messi wouldn't.

[LAB 1,030]

if it was lukaku playing instead of torres on the wing and those chances fell to him, i can bet anything that he would have scored.

Guess who's fault is he wasn't there.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

For a moment I forget we have a draw against Pellets.

[Sheva. 5,373]

we haven't kept a clean sheet since the first game despite playing with a very good back 5 most of the time

I have been thinking of this also, but some of the goals have come from sloppy tired defending that can be forgiven in preseason.

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeah ..... He is gone however dude :-)

I know. But people should not be ridiculing or saying things which are false either.

[zolayes 14,489]

Guess who's fault is he wasn't there.

I wanted Lukaku to stay ,, but he has gone ,, now Im more concerned with how the fuck we get rid of Torres .. are the KGB still operating?

[Barbara 15,149]

I don't get why people are complaining a lot about Cesc either.

The first 20 minutes or so he misplaced some passes, but again he's been training for a couple of weeks, we can certainly cut him some slack.

Then I see the lack of pace argument, but he wasn't at fault in the attacks against us. Matic and van Ginkel didn't work well in the first half. It wasn't clear who was the #5 and #8 and they seemed to alternate between that - a major mistake imo, a pivot should have the positions well defined and absolutely NO interchange, except maybe which side each is playing, but who's the #5 and who's the #8 should be unchangeable throughout the match. As a consequence there was a lot of space between our lines - both the defensive and the offensive regarding the midfield. That's where we lost the game tactically (the result was a mere consequence).

Cesc ran almost as fast as Eden (I'll concede Eden wasn't at his best pace yet, which is expected and understandable) to that shot he chipped over the goalie. While it wasn't Usain Bolt sprint, it was far from slow. If I'm to fault his display today would have been for some passes - most of them at the beginning of the match. his supposed lack of pace (emphasis on supposed) didn't affect us where we had problems. He didn't have a top presentation, but he's one of the last I'd blame for the mess we were. I'm not denying he isn't fast, but I think you guys are overestimating his weaknesses - maybe in a way we're overestimating his strengths, but questioning his signing is too much. Suggesting other pivot players is too much. For the first time in many years we have a good depth in all possible pivot positions. The moan is not reasonable, especially over a pre-season match.

[Fernando 6,585]

Didn't watched the game, to be honest this pre-season was doomed. With Oscar, William, Schurle, Hazard and Ramires out on vacation for the most part of the pre-season, that really hard to implement new ideas, or to to create any kind of chemistry.

Because of your awesome post Henrique I'm like:

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

That should work the other way as well, in terms of World class players and manager at Chelsea who should have done better.

The dip of form is very understandable after the World Cup, less rest, less time to regain fitness, less time to gel with teammates, etc. The current defending champion of the Champions League is losing 3 matches in streak, just saying.

[didierforever 7,349]

Guess who's fault is he wasn't there.

Go and read the comment that I quoted rather than jumping down a man's throat. Also see who brought lukaku up.

[Stingray 9,441]

I wanted Lukaku to stay ,, but he has gone ,, now Im more concerned with how the fuck we get rid of Torres .. are the KGB still operating?

I heard Mossad and Shin Bet are kinda active?