kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 He's not bad, but as some have said above, if we're going to spend 20m on a LB that's 29 then we might as well add the extra millions to get Luke Shaw.This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 we are linked with a 20 years LB from porto, in loan in Serie Ahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2617770/Juan-Iturbe-targeted-Liverpool-Chelsea-Tottenham-Premier-League-giants-send-scouts-watch-Verona-winger.htmlMan, this guy is winger not left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Filipe is quality. I know he is turning 29 in the summer but if it is true I think he will add much needed quality and probably will do us well for the next 3 years. I would be happy with the move tbh if he serves us well for that period of time. If it is below the £20m mark I would be for it as he is good defensively, excellent offensively and a full back who can deliver brilliant crosses. A player like him would help Hazard and I reckon Filipe is up there with the best LB in Europe right now.Right now he is better than Shaw. I would like Shaw here but the fee being suggested is putting me off so it is a tough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think he's more than "not bad", but we really need to cosider whether or not we want to invest that kind of money in a 29 year old.I will be happy if it happens, but I'd be happier with Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thought they would've wanted more than that, he's a fantastic player, much better than Shaw is currently and would arguably be a better fit. For £15m he's be a good signing for a few years.I kind of want Shaw to come here though, he's young, english, a Chelsea fan and actually good. But his main attributes are in how he attacks from fullback, he probably wouldnt thrive under the more defensive roles our fullbacks have. No point signing a wing back, Filipe is good going forward but also can defend and is tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No point signing a wing back, Filipe is good going forward but also can defend and is tall "Shaw is only good going forward" is one of the biggest myths out there. He's a really good defender too. He's complete as a full back - can attack very well, defend well, is fast and is tall too. He'd fit here fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 "Shaw is only good going forward" is one of the biggest myths out there. He's a really good defender too. He's complete as a full back - can attack very well, defend well, is fast and is tall too. He'd fit here fine.I'd prefer Shaw over any other potential LB, but for £15-20m or so. He's gonna be the best lb in the world in about 3 or 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 "Shaw is only good going forward" is one of the biggest myths out there. He's a really good defender too. He's complete as a full back - can attack very well, defend well, is fast and is tall too. He'd fit here fine.i thought shaw was done. moreover dont see how we can top a 30mil, 100kpw and first team offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 This is another plan to drive the prices of Shaw down, planted kindly Into a trusted newspaper exactly like the 'gaurin deal' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 i thought shaw was done. moreover dont see how we can top a 30mil, 100kpw and first team offer. Shaw isn't done yet no, so personally I'm still labouring hope that we can perhaps drive the price down.As for our first team? Shaw would (should) walk straight into it. United shouldn't have any leverage in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Filipe isn't that old, he'll still be playing for around four more years. He'd work well with Courtois, and Costa, if both are brought in come the new season. As much as I'd like us to sign a young LB such as Shaw, I wouldn't mind Chelsea paying 20m for one of the best left-backs in the world. Hopefully he'll play ahead of Marcelo at the World Cup.Think it is, if not close to it already. He's already 29 years old and arguably only have 3-4 years left at the top level. Already at his peak and will past it soon. Why pay 16.5 million for a LB of his age, however good he is, and then having to spend a similar amount again in a few years time for a new LB? In this case, might as well, just pay the whole 30 million for a 19-year old LB that will serve us for the next 15 years and be done with it once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 i thought shaw was done. moreover dont see how we can top a 30mil, 100kpw and first team offer. I think as long as we can offer Shaw a good chance at first team football and agree a fee with Southampton, he'll choose us over United. He doesn't really strike me as someone who is materialistic and if he can get a chance to join the club he has supported since young, then I'm sure he'll jump at that chance. Doubt he'll concern much about his wages now when sooner or later, he will get a high one should he continue to develop upwardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Shaw isn't done yet no, so personally I'm still labouring hope that we can perhaps drive the price down.As for our first team? Shaw would (should) walk straight into it. United shouldn't have any leverage in that regard.I think as long as we can offer Shaw a good chance at first team football and agree a fee with Southampton, he'll choose us over United. He doesn't really strike me as someone who is materialistic and if he can get a chance to join the club he has supported since young, then I'm sure he'll jump at that chance. Doubt he'll concern much about his wages now when sooner or later, he will get a high one should he continue to develop upwardly.lets hope he comes then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I suspect the Man U offer for Shaw is less than reported in the tabloids. (isn't it always?) I'd say it's probably closer to £21-25m range. I'd personally offer Southampton £20m plus Bertrand and see where we go from there. I'd much rather him than Filipe Luis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Not too sure about this TBH. Would rather spent £30 million on a 19-year old LB who can serve us for the next 15 years rather than £16.5 million on a 29-year old LB who would probably only serve us for 3-4 years at the highest level.I actually would've agreed with this a few weeks ago, but three years is a long-time. Filipe Luis is a very good player and would be a step up for our (already strong) defence whilst costing half of what Shaw would and probably being on lower wages too. He's much less of a gamble than Shaw, which of cause means the rewards could be lower but so would the risks.3-4 years also gives us time to develop our own youngsters in that position to be the 'next Luke Shaw' if you will.Whilst I'd love for us to get Shaw, there's always more than one way to get young English talent in the ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 i hope to sign Felipe Luis this summer , we need world class LB . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Think we will get Moreno if not Shaw and Marin will be involved in Moreno deal. Just my personal view. Inclined to think Shaw to Utd is on the verge of being announced tbh, otherwise I think we'd be right in his agents ear about him coming here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IliyaDamyanov 43 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 if we let Man U to buy Shaw and we get Luis I think that Jose will make another fucking mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 if we let Man U to buy Shaw and we get Luis I think that Jose will make another fucking mistakePardon? how 'we get Luis' part considered a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodasys 40 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Chelsea are confident of signing both Diego Costa and Fillipe Luis from Atletico Madrid. (Telegraph) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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