mccg 1,528 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Who will make up the 8 team defensive unit this season.With Terry-Cahill-Ivanavic-Azpil- deffo's i would like to know who will fill the other 4slots ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Moved to the Matthew Harding stand section, it wasn't transfer news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Who will make up the 8 team defensive unit this season.With Terry-Cahill-Ivanavic-Azpil- deffo's i would like to know who will fill the other 4slots ???that's a very good question .. since we have rid of Luiz and Cole ,,, I have no idea what is being planned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Well how many more years do we expect Terry to remain in the top?One more year? two?Cause I think if he has a short time left, then building our defensive unit around him is not wise decision for the "future". Kalas on loan, Zouma going to loan. Cahill has the ability to stay long, and unless you move back Ivan to CB we are short now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Ask Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 CBs - JT, cahill, iva, zouma/omerouRBs- azpi, ivaLBs - luis/rodriguez, azpithats 6 defenders. and probably pva and some youth team player likee chirstensen to make up numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 CBs - JT, cahill, iva, zouma/omerouRBs- azpi, ivaLBs - luis/rodriguez, azpithats 6 defenders. and probably pva and some youth team player likee chirstensen to make up numbers.PVA won't get anywhere near the set up under Jose, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Well how many more years do we expect Terry to remain in the top?One more year? two?Cause I think if he has a short time left, then building our defensive unit around him is not wise decision for the "future". Kalas on loan, Zouma going to loan. Cahill has the ability to stay long, and unless you move back Ivan to CB we are short now. you have summed up my concerns .. We should have kept Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 PVA won't get anywhere near the set up under Jose, thankfully.would personally have loved to see ryan but that chance is gone. pva is not good enough defensively is what everone says but i dont see us buying 2 LBs this season.so maybe ake and christensen for those 2 spots!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 would personally have loved to see ryan but that chance is gone. pva is not good enough defensively is what everone says but i dont see us buying 2 LBs this season.so maybe ake and christensen for those 2 spots!!!Maybe Azpi will cover both right and left back with Ake being emergency cover beyond that. Maybe Ryan will still be here, his form for Villa from what I have heard wont have won him admires.All I know is PVA won't be here, if there is ever an anti Jose player, it's him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Think Jt and us were so lucky he didnt pick up any major injuries last season but we need another world class cb&Zouma or young lion to goto war next season and Bertrand and another wc left back ffs Jose and backroom staff dont bustmyballsfc grrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Ask Mourinho.Shall we leave that one with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Tbh we don't necessarily need 8 defenders. With Iva and Azpi able to play in two different positions i can see 6 being fine.JT, Cahill, Iva, Azpi, Luis (assuming he signs) and one of Zouma or Omerou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matterz 67 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Tbh we don't necessarily need 8 defenders. With Iva and Azpi able to play in two different positions i can see 6 being fine.JT, Cahill, Iva, Azpi, Luis (assuming he signs) and one of Zouma or Omerou.Personally I think is cutting it very fine and playing a dangerous game. Two of them get injured and we will only have 4 defenders to pick from. I get what you saying about how versatile some of the defenders are, but still leaves us very short and brings back memories of when Jose only had 3 centre backs for one season (Terry, Carvalho and Boulahrouz) that turned out to be a nightmare, so rather safe than sorry.Also with Luiz gone we forget that he was playing back up the whole of last season and his versatility needs to be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Personally I think is cutting it very fine and playing a dangerous game. Two of them get injured and we will only have 4 defenders to pick from. I get what you saying about how versatile some of the defenders are, but still leaves us very short and brings back memories of when Jose only had 3 centre backs for one season (Terry, Carvalho and Boulahrouz) that turned out to be a nightmare, so rather safe than sorry.Also with Luiz gone we forget that he was playing back up the whole of last season and his versatility needs to be replaced.I would have added Kalas into that group but he has obvioisly gone out on loan. Lol. What would you suggest? I would be reluctant to buy as we already have fantastic young defenders. (Kalas, Ake, Zouma and Omerou) and buying a proven, £100,000 a week player will just block their path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matterz 67 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I would have added Kalas into that group but he has obvioisly gone out on loan. Lol.What would you suggest? I would be reluctant to buy as we already have fantastic young defenders. (Kalas, Ake, Zouma and Omerou) and buying a proven, £100,000 a week player will just block their path.I think Omeruo will go on loan again, Ake is still a very raw talent, cant see him being relied on much, and Zouma is a bit of an unknown quantity, i would actually be surprised if he wasn't sent on loan too.As much as I like young talent and academy players, I prefer title winning squads. So I wouldn't at all be surprised to see us go after Varane. Would leave us with Ivanovic (Chelsea's best defender IMO), Azpilicueta, Cahill, Terry, Varane, Luis, and perhaps Zouma and Ake. All our young players are very good, and we would all love to see them play more often, but the reality is, that you really do need to be world class to be a part of this Chelsea squad, and with the exception of Courtois, I haven't really seen that level from any of the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The real question here is why is "Defensive unit" 'Rumoured'?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Personally I think is cutting it very fine and playing a dangerous game. Two of them get injured and we will only have 4 defenders to pick from. I get what you saying about how versatile some of the defenders are, but still leaves us very short and brings back memories of when Jose only had 3 centre backs for one season (Terry, Carvalho and Boulahrouz) that turned out to be a nightmare, so rather safe than sorry.Also with Luiz gone we forget that he was playing back up the whole of last season and his versatility needs to be replaced.I agree, 6 is not enough throughout the whole season. An injury here, a suspension there, and before we know we're playing Mikel at CB. I remember Jose once talked about how he sees a balance in a squad, and I believe he said that there should be at least one direct backup for each position, so 4 centre-backs and 4 full-backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I think Omeruo will go on loan again, Ake is still a very raw talent, cant see him being relied on much, and Zouma is a bit of an unknown quantity, i would actually be surprised if he wasn't sent on loan too.As much as I like young talent and academy players, I prefer title winning squads. So I wouldn't at all be surprised to see us go after Varane. Would leave us with Ivanovic (Chelsea's best defender IMO), Azpilicueta, Cahill, Terry, Varane, Luis, and perhaps Zouma and Ake. All our young players are very good, and we would all love to see them play more often, but the reality is, that you really do need to be world class to be a part of this Chelsea squad, and with the exception of Courtois, I haven't really seen that level from any of the others.I get where you are coming from in regards to the 'title winning squads' rather than young talent and i agree to a certain extent but we have some fantastic young defenders here. Also with FFP in full force now i think we would be silly to let these boys slip away. The only way we will find out ifthese lads will cope is if they get thrown in at the deep end. If we start off with a back 4 of;Azpi, Cahill, JT, Luis,Every eventuality is covered. Azpi injured - Iva coversJT/Cahill injured - Iva coversLuis injured - Iva to RB, Azpi to LBBoth Azpi and a CB injured - Iva in at RB, Zouma in at CBBoth fullbacks injured - Iva and Bertrand/PVA coverBoth CB injured - Iva and Zouma coverAnything more than 2 injuries/suspensions at one time i think will be extremely unlucky. I believe we will have adequate cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Tbh we don't necessarily need 8 defenders. With Iva and Azpi able to play in two different positions i can see 6 being fine.JT, Cahill, Iva, Azpi, Luis (assuming he signs) and one of Zouma or Omerou.To think 6 would be fine is verging on madness,to play possibly 50+ games with 6 defenders i doubt we will finish in the top4 imho!!!Never mind challenging for anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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