James Rodríguez

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

Mate, lets be realistic. Do you actually think we have a chance in a million of getting antoine, gareth or Dybala? Seriously. People keep throwing these names around like all we need to do is express our interest and they are ours. For me, its not going to happen. Mate, we were unable to get Stones and Pogba and Marquinhos despite being the champions of england and having jose mourinho at our helm. Why would antoine (who might end up winning the CL and Liga double in a team which has perfect identity, a stable manager and a stable club) or bale (playing with the likes of Ronaldo and modric for the dream club of any player) or Dybala (a young striker who was trusted [something which never happens at chelsea] and is settled and one of the first names on the team sheet) come to chelsea where there is no stability, no identity, no guarantees of european football. Sorry mate. I am not going to even talk about getting such players when there is literally no chance of watching them dawn the chelsea shirt.

We are down to rejects. Cesc was a barca reject, pedro was a barca reject. We might get the likes of Benatia, or isco/james - rejects.

I completely agree with you that they are not "ambitious" (i think thats the word you are looking for instead of lazy). Gundogan has a history with injuries. I have my reservations about "that" rather than his abilities. But yes, I would take him over Isco and James - totally agree. Pjanic, for me, is as bad as cesc defensively. You talk about "good old chelsea" but want cesc and pjanic in your midfield 3, well thats a disaster. 

My point simply is this - first of all, i agree we need to go to a midfield 3. We need muscle - which we seem to already have got with Radja. now we need a "creative" CM. For a lot of people that is Cesc. For me, cesc needs to leave. Simple as that. (why? discussion for another day and another thread). Can we get someone like Gundogan who just signed a new contract, is injury prone but still one of the most important players in his team when fit - I would say improbable. What we are left with our some really good players in the mould of James/Isco. 

If you are doubting their mentality, then fair enough. With a good coach that can improve. Look at torres and what simeone has done to him. 

Realistically speaking, these 2 names are front runners if we are looking to get some creative midfielders and definite upgrades on oscar and cesc.

Thats the point. Dont go for players only because they are available and talented. So what if Isco gets available? He doesnt fit in our plans (IMO). However Bale, Griz, Dybala do because they can add lot of goals and decide the game. And if they aint possible then go for ones that are and suit us.

I hate we would go after Isco just because we can. Dont splash 50m just because we can. Wait and get players that suit us when they become available or get cheaper alternatives because they certainly exist. 

And right now Chelsea is in freak situation. We managed to get Hazard back then, we surely can pull more same transfers. Maybe not this summer but next one. 

 

[Tautvix 1,321]

This James looks like Oscar. But the difference is James is not our player so he will always be overrated in our fans eyes.

[Essien19 1,415]

This James looks like Oscar. But the difference is James is not our player so he will always be overrated in our fans eyes.

Looks rather like a Hazard when taking a look at his mentality, imo.

Liked James under Ancelotti, but these days, his attitude stinks.

Stay away, i want soldiers! [emoji4]

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

Trying to knick "rejects" from Barca and RM sounds like a fantastic transfer strategy. Look at some of the recent successes of that in Cesc, Sanchez, and Özil. 

If we continue to play with a #10 under Conte and need an Oscar replacement then a goal scoring attacking mid like James would be great.

I agree.  Before they were RM rejects, they were highly sought after.  They are only RM rejects because that's what RM do; they fall in love with someone else and you can only have XI on the pitch.

Sneijder left Madrid and won the CL at Inter, then went to the WC finals.  Robben has had a fantastic career at Bayern.  These are just two more examples.  A lot of these players are pretty good deals (in terms of transfer fees), of course they are on RM wages, so the fees have to be a bit lower.

 

[Term-X 7,891]

On 15 March 2016 at 3:23 PM, RoyalBlues said:

If James make his mind to not playing in CL next season, then yes.

 

Well, Zidane won't be playing him in the CL. So it's a choice between no CL or no CL. Unless there are other top clubs vying for him...

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Think he just needs someone to put their arm round him. Yeah maybe his attitude stinks this season but if I remember rightly Conte took a certain someone to Juventus, who's attitude was poor at Man City and made him play perhaps the best football of his career... Different situation perhaps but still you never know, it's not like James is a poor player

 

Regardless it must be difficult to be a creative player at Madrid because every year or two they sign a new wide player or 10, there is a lack of continuity for guys like Isco, James, Vazquez and next year they will have Asensio or whatever his face is back from loan and whoever Zidane/their new manager wants. 

[chelseafan26 293]

11 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Thats the point. Dont go for players only because they are available and talented. So what if Isco gets available? He doesnt fit in our plans (IMO). However Bale, Griz, Dybala do because they can add lot of goals and decide the game. And if they aint possible then go for ones that are and suit us.

I hate we would go after Isco just because we can. Dont splash 50m just because we can. Wait and get players that suit us when they become available or get cheaper alternatives because they certainly exist. 

And right now Chelsea is in freak situation. We managed to get Hazard back then, we surely can pull more same transfers. Maybe not this summer but next one. 

 

Who would you suggest in this case. For me, I would hold on to Hazard for this season, no matter what. So I am not talking about swap deals. I am a 100% against keeping cesc for another season, which would mean getting a creative-ish midfielder to partner Matic and Radja in a midfield 3. Pjanic is one option, but honestly he looks like a 3 years younger cesc. Isco and James are wonderful players and just a year or 2 ago they were the next big things. Another option is Gotze but he seems to be facing a similar fate as Isco/james. 

Mate, I have to massively disagree with the last portion of your post. We got Eden because we won the CL and were in CL for the next season. The signings before that were that of moses and marin, if I remember correctly. So Hazard was a freak signing, not the other way round. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

Who would you suggest in this case. For me, I would hold on to Hazard for this season, no matter what. So I am not talking about swap deals. I am a 100% against keeping cesc for another season, which would mean getting a creative-ish midfielder to partner Matic and Radja in a midfield 3. Pjanic is one option, but honestly he looks like a 3 years younger cesc. Isco and James are wonderful players and just a year or 2 ago they were the next big things. Another option is Gotze but he seems to be facing a similar fate as Isco/james. 

Mate, I have to massively disagree with the last portion of your post. We got Eden because we won the CL and were in CL for the next season. The signings before that were that of moses and marin, if I remember correctly. So Hazard was a freak signing, not the other way round. 

Maybe you got that second part wrong. Indeed Hazard was result of CL win. But what Im saying is that right now we might not be able to get Griz or Dybala becausw this was freak season but next summer with probable CL why not? 

Sure we should hold on to Hazard and Im against Cesc staying, but he will 99% stay because of several reasons. 

However if Hazard leaves, I would either try to get Bale in return or simply keep the money for next year and get Griz/Dybala even if we have to overpay. However I wouldnt want to spend hazard money on either james isco or gotze because their mentality is last that we need right now in rebuilding. That said, hope Eden stays at least another season because he is massive talent. 

[The Skipper 20,609]

Hazard - James - Willian is an awesome AM trio. Conte can sort out his mentality, I'm sure of it. 

[Special Juan 28,139]

Get shot of Oscar and get this lad.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3665437/Chelsea-Manchester-City-battling-PSG-Real-Madrid-s-James-Rodriguez.html

[Pizy 18,888]

Don't see where he'd play if we're going with 2 strikers. Makes even less sense for Man City to be after him. They have About £170m worth of attacking midfielders already and are close to signing Nolito. The hell would they need another super expensive #10 type?

[The Skipper 20,609]

We're not linked with him but I think he'd make a great addition. I think he's been put to the side a bit at Real, do you think we can get him at a cut rate price? 

[Pizy 18,888]

1 minute ago, The Skipper said:

We're not linked with him but I think he'd make a great addition. I think he's been put to the side a bit at Real, do you think we can get him at a cut rate price? 

If by cut price you mean £50m, yeah! 

Apparently United are favorites for him judging by what I'm seeing on Twitter. Why on earth they would need him is beyond me. Especially when they're about to spend £105m on Pogba.

[jernej93 569]

6 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

We're not linked with him but I think he'd make a great addition. I think he's been put to the side a bit at Real, do you think we can get him at a cut rate price? 

Conte has never played with nr.10 in his formation so I would say no. It would be something like Torres buy ... hey, he is good at Colombia, luxury player - let's buy him just because we can. NO! Can he play b2b midfielder? NO! Can he play striker? Probably not or at least it is not his primary position. I also think he is not suited  for deep playmaker position ... with Willian and Hazard on the wings I would say pass him and rather go for CB and another CM?

[Special Juan 28,139]

The funds from the sale of shite like Oscar etc would make this a very simple financial transfer.