Pizy 18,907 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Personally don't think Fabregas has been tanking it. He was slow as fuck and unathletic last season as well. Still don't think he'll suddenly turn it around in the coming weeks and become the highly motivated player he was when he first joined.If anything I think Costa is the biggest bad apple in the team. And I do think that Hazard was getting annoyed with Mourinho and his methods. 11Drogba, The Chels and iseah100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Personally don't think Fabregas has been tanking it. He was slow as fuck and unathletic last season as well.Still don't think he'll suddenly turn it around in the coming weeks and become the highly motivated player he was when he first joined.If anything I think Costa is the biggest bad apple in the team. And I do think that Hazard was getting annoyed with Mourinho and his methods.Even though he was slow and unathletic last season, he was pulling the strings in midfield and creating opportunities for the likes of Costa & Hazard.This season, he's barely created any chances for our attack and considering his lack of defensive workrate, he's just put more pressure on Matic to produce 9/10 performances every match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Am I the only one that hasn't given up on him? Of course you won't give up on him, he's your favourite player (which is surprising as I thought you were a Chelsea fan) didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Even though he was slow and unathletic last season, he was pulling the strings in midfield and creating opportunities for the likes of Costa & Hazard.This season, he's barely created any chances for our attack and considering his lack of defensive workrate, he's just put more pressure on Matic to produce 9/10 performances every match.Yeah, but I don't think that's down to him sabotaging Mourinho. I just feel he's played so much football over the years that's he's burning out physically. He looks like an old man against any midfield with some pace and athleticism.Other clubs have figured him out. He's not going to surprise anyone anymore. They'll target him and take him out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! joshmercury 20 Posted December 18, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 18, 2015 I dont know whether Pat Nevin has credible sources to make such insinuations, but the larger point is Mourinho is gone, whether he was sacked rightly or wrongly is a different issue. Once he is gone this whole mud slinging on who is to blame for the debacle is such a pointless activity. Now everyone gets a clean slate as Abramovich himself stated and it is only fair we also give it to the team. On another note why isn't it possible for the team to just perform badly without any bad apples? It is sports for christsake every team goes through these phases. Sometimes things don't just add up like the plethora of ways we seem to discover this season in conceding cheap goals. When the team starts performing again and trust me it will, the board will feel it was vindicated in its decision and we will once again move on for the nth time like the hypocrites that we are. And guess what will happen the new guy will also fail and the cycle will start again only this time with milder fan reactions as it is not Mourinho. Manegerial Stability is so overrated these days the only stability that is necessary is in procuring trophies with high frequency and that we have managed, if not without a Sir Alex or a Wenger then so be it, I can live with that. borriske, Muzchap, zolayes and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 It's also better for us that all these players perform better even if they got Mourinho out. Because that will raise their price. We are still a business and would like to sell our players at a good price if we don't want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Fabregas is a genius at picking out a runner and hitting him. For me, the biggest problem this year has been Costa not making the most basic runs a striker should make, so we couldn't stretch the play and cesc had no target ahead of him to hit. That makes the pitch very small and makes it harder for everyone else.Off the pitch though, I wouldn't trust the guy. I could quite easily believe he got frustrated and acted the cunt.But the players around him, and I include Eden in that because he came back looking sluggish and overweight, weren't giving him the options he needs to succeed. Muzchap and Adnane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 “I don’t see Cesc differently, but what I see if that every minute the professionalism is there and he is never afraid to have the ball or to be afraid to make a mistake. I completely trust him.”Apparently he is the one that didn't want to play for Jose Anyway, fuck logic, it's funnier that way (I'm serious) and having knee jerk reactions. It's football culture creating fictional stories and all the drama. LAB and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Of course you won't give up on him, he's your favourite player (which is surprising as I thought you were a Chelsea fan)Haha, piss off you condescending cunt. Who are you to question my sincerity as Chelsea fan? You and all the others that question any fans loyalty can line up and kiss my arse. DYC. and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Still a proper cunt, whether that is true or not he remains an utter cunt. Amblève. and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Of course you won't give up on him, he's your favourite player (which is surprising as I thought you were a Chelsea fan)What the fuck? I do think he, Costa, and Hazard were the bad apples. Mostly Costa. Spike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Seriously DF. I like you and that but it is actually getting quite boring and annoyingly repetitive and is quite offensive with you calling one of our own players a cancer. I get you don't like him but until you have got absolute proof he has said that, you can calm down with those offensive insults. A matter of fact you have been calling him those words such as as 'cancer' before Nevin even said that. He has been poor and yes you have not liked him because of what he said during his gooners days but you take your hatred to another level. He is our player after all.your brother sleeps with your wife/gf, and you would just say "its alright, he is my blood after all". (easy example to think thanks to giggs). i support mikel, i support rambo. does not matter if they have the quality, but atleast they have character and give their ALL for the club and the badge. what more proof do you want mate? the fact that his performances have been so horribly shit. or the fact that even someone like pat nevin has said what he has said. what does pat have to gain by saying this. every time i have heard him, he simply praised every chelsea player, the club and everything related to it. i remember during the AVB time too, he was so positive. as for cesc, i always thought pat was a fan. just hear him speak of cesc the day we won the league and cesc just fell on the floor crying. just look at him talk about cesc. why would nevin say what he said. the only way we get more proof is if cesc himself comes out and says this because i am pretty sure if jose says this, people would still think he is making stuff up or trying to create problem.as for calling him a cancer, well he is what he is. i did not need pat nevin to say this. sometimes things are just obvious. he was, is and always will be a cunt. a cunt of a human.lastly, since i have already been so repetitive, let me finish with my best tag line related to cunt fiberglass : I STILL CANT BELIEVE THAT JOSE ACTUALLY BOUGHT HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 And To think that some of you wanted him as our Future Captain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 your brother sleeps with your wife/gf, and you would just say "its alright, he is my blood after all". (easy example to think thanks to giggs). i support mikel, i support rambo. does not matter if they have the quality, but atleast they have character and give their ALL for the club and the badge. what more proof do you want mate? the fact that his performances have been so horribly shit. or the fact that even someone like pat nevin has said what he has said. what does pat have to gain by saying this. every time i have heard him, he simply praised every chelsea player, the club and everything related to it. i remember during the AVB time too, he was so positive. as for cesc, i always thought pat was a fan. just hear him speak of cesc the day we won the league and cesc just fell on the floor crying. just look at him talk about cesc. why would nevin say what he said. the only way we get more proof is if cesc himself comes out and says this because i am pretty sure if jose says this, people would still think he is making stuff up or trying to create problem.as for calling him a cancer, well he is what he is. i did not need pat nevin to say this. sometimes things are just obvious. he was, is and always will be a cunt. a cunt of a human.lastly, since i have already been so repetitive, let me finish with my best tag line related to cunt fiberglass : I STILL CANT BELIEVE THAT JOSE ACTUALLY BOUGHT HIM."Your brother sleeps with your wife"...A little dramatic don't you think?Why won't you just come out with it. Admit you don't like Cesc, he has been playing poorly, and you want him to be a traitor/rat/mole/snake so you can further vent your frusteration of Chelsea horrible season on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Your brother sleeps with your wife"...A little dramatic don't you think?Why won't you just come out with it. Admit you don't like Cesc, he has been playing poorly, and you want him to be a traitor/rat/mole/snake so you can further vent your frusteration of Chelsea horrible season on him.so its un-dramatic to be bloody piss on the club and your manager?i have not? how long have you been on the forum mate. people should really know their stuff before running their mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 say what you want but this just shows that Wenger has been doing really well at Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 19, 2015 This forum and fans in general are so fickle...just because media spreads some bullshit stories about Cesc or Hazard or Costa, the fans imediately jump on them as if there was clear evidence they are rats or whatever.Whole team from Ivanovic to Matic to Hazard to Costa deliberately played worse than they can and its pretty much clear. But to throw shit at some of our players more than at others is just patethic. Im not a fan of Cesc for footballing reasons, but as long there will be no evidence I wouldnt throw shit at anyone.Not at Eden, not at Cesc, not at Costa. Either boo all of them for underperforming or find some evidence ffs. bellion, zolayes, The Mak and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I don't believe he had any part in this movement to force José out. He been trying, and today he did again. He just continues to be completely out of form. One of the few players that showed today what he's been showing for months... TheOneChan95, Kieran., lucio and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He's useful for about 30 meters on the pitch. If he goes too far back, he's useless defending. If he goes too far forward he gets easily disposessed. The Chels, 11Drogba and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hopefully big Guus removes this bloke from the starting XI, he's our biggest problem. Need Loftus in. didierforever and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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