zolayes 14,489 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 thank you geniusseems you are the genius ,,so could you explain CHICKNES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm not saying we need a miracle to beat Atletico, but we'll need some if/when we meet who ever comes on top of the RM-Bayern tie and after spending in excess of 100M on attacking players, this shouldn't have been the case and, at least, we shouldn't be pissing our pants for the lots of Atletico and LiverpoolFootball at this level is about planning, having a game plan and deploying in such a way that suits the tools you have and what the opponent bring to the table in terms of threat and their and philosophy. Nobody will pissing it going to Atletico or Liverpool but what will be required is a plan on how to play. Atletico was a two legged affair where we could not, and didn't, play ourselves out of the tie after 90 minutes and leaving us with every chance come next Wednesday, we did, and it's on.Every team relies a little on luck or rub of the green, but what this team has that a lot of teams don't is desire and that never say die attitude and most importantly on the biggest stage of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 seems you are the genius ,,so could you explain CHICKNEShave nothing against you, what is it you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 2) I didn't say chelsea should be as good as RM/BM right now, but, even at this level, we shouldn't be scared in to parking the bus against Atletico 3) The injury of JT and Peter had no impact in the game plan, defending was the game before and after the substitutions ... any how, ..chill man, take it easy I'll just address this stuff. I really think you are underestimating how good Atletico are, they are first in La Liga with cushion and have made it to the final 4 of the champions league. This isn't a team of jokers, they haven't yet lost at home and very few teams go there and come away with a result. The gameplan in my opinion was to soak up the pressure and try to knick a result in the final 20mins. It didn't work out that way because we were forced to make two subs due to injuries... You really think Jose planned to keep Ba, Schurrle and Oscar on the bench and play everyone else a full 90 with the amount of defending we had to do? Use your head. The injuries GREATLY effected how we could change the game in the final frame of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 have nothing against you, what is it you want?when you start to get sarcastic ,, check the spelling in your av Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The only thing that worries me is the fact that we never got an away goal because I can see them getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'll just address this stuff. I really think you are underestimating how good Atletico are, they are first in La Liga with cushion and have made it to the final 4 of the champions league. This isn't a team of jokers, they haven't yet lost at home and very few teams go there and come away with a result. The gameplan in my opinion was to soak up the pressure and try to knick a result in the final 20mins. It didn't work out that way because we were forced to make two subs due to injuries... You really think Jose planned to keep Ba, Schurrle and Oscar on the bench and play everyone else a full 90 with the amount of defending we had to do? Use your head. The injuries GREATLY effected how we could change the game in the final frame of the game.this makes a little more sense ... but I still think Jose took too much risk with his starting line up, inviting Atletico to attack us that much was crazy, IMO.. and we shouldn't be this happy about the result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 this makes a little more sense ... but I still think Jose took too much risk with his starting line up, inviting Atletico to attack us that much was crazy, IMO.. and we shouldn't be this happy about the resultI don't remember one instance where I thought they were gonna score. If you ask me Jose got the tactics spot on... Had we not been forced into changes we may be talking about one of the great European away legs in the clubs history.Its not the greatest result but given the circumstances its a good one. We win the next home game and we're going to Lisbon. We win our next two European games and we'll be champions of Europe! I don't know how anyone can be disappointed with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 when you start to get sarcastic ,, check the spelling in your avyou too huh? ... I'll say the same thing to you, CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING A BETTER SPEAKER AND WRITER OF YOUR LANGUAGE THAN A FOREIGNER ... and expect more mistakes from me, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I don't remember on instance where I thought they were gonna score. If you ask me Jose got the tactics spot on... Had we not been forced into changes we may be talking about one of the great European away legs in the clubs history.Its not the greatest result but given the circumstances its a good one. We win the next home game and we're going to Lisbon. We win our next to European games and we'll be champions of Europe! I don't know how anyone can be disappointed with that.you mean one, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Second leg X1: SchwarzerAzpilicueta - Ivanovic - Cahill - ColeLuiz - RamiresSchurrle - Willian - HazardEto'o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Haters gonna hate. Don't mind them. Neutrals just wanna see goals and drama. In our eyes it was another flawless execution of a plan crafted by the mastermind Jose Mourinho. Another masterpiece including breathtaking performances by everyone (yes even Torres was good). Nearly perfect though because if we were killers in front we might be talking about a 0-1 today, because we had some good moments.Also why perfect execution of a defensive approach doesn't ever get at least a minimum amount or praise? We actually stopped Atletico from scoring in their own home. That is one of the most difficult achievements in Europe this season, and we are playing in a competition involving the best teams in Europe. Yes "we parked it" because that's what we needed to do, given the opposition and our missing players, and again proved that we are the absolute best at it. It's no easy task to have this strategy available whenever you want. So WTF are these ppl talking about? As is said, fuck the haters. I really don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think the result favors Atleticowe've struggled against parked buses all season, and tactically atletico will come to give us the taste of our own medicneplaying extra time will favor the away teamif it comes to it, they'll have a better chance in penalty shoot out because they've by far a better GKwe've lost lampard, JT and peterdue to its smaller pitch size, SB is suited for parking the bus and counter atackingHow extra time favors the team that had to travel and are literally in foreign territory? And we're used to playing without any space - even if we suck balls - they aren't and they proved that in a pitch as huge Vicente Calderón when we took away their space. They'll struggle even more. They're Chelsea 2.0 with a better overrated striker, but with way less experience and success at this stage - which is all much important and decisive.And I think it's pretty naive from everyone to think that Mou will come with an offensive team for the home leg.The only change I see is Hazard for Lampard if he's fit. Then drop Luiz to CB and Ramires do the pivot. With both Lamps and Mikel out and Matic cup-tied, there's a chance we'll play with Iva stepping up as a CB and Luiz being kept in the pivot. The most obvious option would be maybe play a 4-3-3 with Oscar or Willian dropping to midfield, but I don't see Mourinho doing it. It could be a 4-4-1-1 with Hazard (supposing he's fit) playing behind Eto'o (supposing he's fit) with Oscar and Willian marking each of the FBs and playing there, with Hazard centered. We do need Hazard and Eto'o back as we already lost Cech, Terry, Frank and even Mikel.How did injuries screw us up so badly all of sudden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StasisAEL 29 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Oh, that's interesting. Will they be paying us in rainbows or lovehearts?But I agree we need more middlefielders. Maybe a couple of topfielders, and at least 7 bottomfielders.but of course. they are real madrid. they ve got no money. just a few golden coins from the end of their rainbow bank.id love to see u trying to write in an other language other than your first language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 haven't seen those posted yet. Sorry if they were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 but of course. they are real madrid. they ve got no money. just a few golden coins from the end of their rainbow bank.id love to see u trying to write in an other language other than your first language. In any language the idea of Hazard leaving us for Madrid this summer sounds like nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think the result favors Atleticowe've struggled against parked buses all season, and tactically atletico will come to give us the taste of our own medicneplaying extra time will favor the away teamif it comes to it, they'll have a better chance in penalty shoot out because they've by far a better GKwe've lost lampard, JT and peterdue to its smaller pitch size, SB is suited for parking the bus and counter atackingHere is something to think about.Chelsea have been in European play in May in seven of the last ten seasons, and also that this will be their 13th European semi at Stamford Bridge and they've never lost one.I know...Chelsea has no history so these things can be overlooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Wasnt the most pretty game to watch.Nothing wrong in playing a defensive game away, since this is 2 legged CL football.What is disappointing though, is when watching the highlights of the game, we did not have even one attack.That is rubbish.Defensive game - tactics. That is acceptable, but not having a single proper attack the whole game in a CL Semi final is not something we can be proud of.Just Saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 we were without our best players in attack and lost our keeper and captain. I guarantee you the gameplan was to soak up the pressure in the first half and make a couple subs to knick it in the last 25mins. Had we not been forced to make subs I bet Schurrle, Ba and possibly Oscar would've come on to look for a goal.We didn't play our strongest XI and we went into a tough environment and kept the tie alive with it going back to the bridge! We can and will win there. This was another Jose Masterclass don't know what you're whining about.Apart from Hazard we pretty much had the entire squad! Soaking up the pressure is what we do in pretty much every big game, yest was no different and that is surely no Masterclass!!!!!! RDM won us the CL on the same!!! .... Schurrle did come in the second to defend not to attack .... Being so defensive could go against us ... all they need to do is score a goal and the pressure is on us then they will play the "19th Century" football and we will cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 How extra time favors the team that had to travel and are literally in foreign territory? And we're used to playing without any space - even if we suck balls - they aren't and they proved that in a pitch as huge Vicente Calderón when we took away their space. They'll struggle even more. They're Chelsea 2.0 with a better overrated striker, but with way less experience and success at this stage - which is all much important and decisive.And I think it's pretty naive from everyone to think that Mou will come with an offensive team for the home leg.The only change I see is Hazard for Lampard if he's fit. Then drop Luiz to CB and Ramires do the pivot. With both Lamps and Mikel out and Matic cup-tied, there's a chance we'll play with Iva stepping up as a CB and Luiz being kept in the pivot. The most obvious option would be maybe play a 4-3-3 with Oscar or Willian dropping to midfield, but I don't see Mourinho doing it. It could be a 4-4-1-1 with Hazard (supposing he's fit) playing behind Eto'o (supposing he's fit) with Oscar and Willian marking each of the FBs and playing there, with Hazard centered. We do need Hazard and Eto'o back as we already lost Cech, Terry, Frank and even Mikel.How did injuries screw us up so badly all of sudden?because of the 'away goal rule', the smaller time left to play, its more advantage for the guest team (the risk the home side runs is twice that of the guest) .... because a goal for the away team means the home team should score twice as much in the time left... to say the same thing in an other way, in the later periods of the game the home side should be much more careful not to concede... so if the game goes in to extra time, a goal for Atletico means chelsea should score twice in a period t < 30 min. but a goal for Chelsea means Atletico should only score once.. u dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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