didierforever 7,349 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 erm yes and no... who would he have put at rb this season instead of ivanovic.... ramires isnt the best example as he is always in/out of the teamiva is CB playing out of position as a RB. his problems were not overnight. they were there last season too.also, zouma has played a RB. so IF jose wants to play a player out of position, i would rather it be a fast zouma than iva who was never quick to begin with. or we can play one of the best RBs of PL in his position - azpi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Last season Ivanovic was decent and he scored important goals. Luis got done by Zaha. You forgot to quote the other topic we just talked about. Don't go changing subjects buddy. We we're talking about Ramires, I want to hear your opinion on my last post please sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 iva is CB playing out of position as a RB. his problems were not overnight. they were there last season too.also, zouma has played a RB. so IF jose wants to play a player out of position, i would rather it be a fast zouma than iva who was never quick to begin with. or we can play one of the best RBs of PL in his position - azpi.Not relevant to the discussion and you per se but... Don't buy this CB playing at RB stuff anymore tbh. Ivanovic has consistently played RB for so many seasons at CFC now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 You forgot to quote the other topic we just talked about. Don't go changing subjects buddy. We we're talking about Ramires, I want to hear your opinion on my last post please sir.I dont rate Ramires and playing against only the top teams and no one else hardly makes you a favourite of Mourinho. He plays because he has pace and can run for 90 mins. Good enough? No. Needed? Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Last season Filipe Luis and Azpi RB, FYI Ramires always starts in big games for some reasonim talking about this season, he had his ups and downs last seaon but everytime luis came in he was shocking, it was well known he was never able to settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 iva is CB playing out of position as a RB. his problems were not overnight. they were there last season too.also, zouma has played a RB. so IF jose wants to play a player out of position, i would rather it be a fast zouma than iva who was never quick to begin with. or we can play one of the best RBs of PL in his position - azpi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I dont rate Ramires and playing against only the top teams and no one else hardly makes you a favourite of Mourinho. He plays because he has pace and can run for 90 mins. Good enough? No. Needed? Sometimes.Ramires plays like a braindead animal. He just runs, no technique whatsoever. Ever since the goal he scored against Barca he lost all the skill he once had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Not relevant to the discussion and you per se but... Don't buy this CB playing at RB stuff anymore tbh. Ivanovic has consistently played RB for so many seasons at CFC now.true. but he gives us consistent reminders that he does not have the attributes of an RB. in modern day football and specially for a team like chelsea, the FB SHOULD be good in attack (not saying he should be dani alves or marcelo). iva cant dribble past a player, iva's crosses are generally poor and sometimes baffling cos we have no target inside the area, iva's pace often leaves ,stranded against quick winger when we are not playing a low block. on the other hand, most of his good qualities are perfect for a CB (a good example of it being FSW's reign). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 im talking about this season, he had his ups and downs last seaon but everytime luis came in he was shocking, it was well known he was never able to settle down.Even Zouma would be a better right back than Ivanovic. Are you guys watching the same games I'm watching? Almost 90% of the goals we concede come from the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 but obviously this is a better argument than "LOL". dont say LOL, that might get u banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Barnsley fans chanting: "He's leaving, He's leaving, He's leaving, He's on his way to London, to London, to London, Woah, Woah" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 so tell me how exactly is stones better than zouma. please enlighten us. cos stones is a "ball playing defender". well in 4 matches, everton have conceded atleast 4 goals which were stones' faults (watford embarassment, sterling goal and both the goals today). on the other hand, zouma has put in brilliant performances almost every time he has got a chance. but i would really like to know exactly how stones is better. please go ahead.He is a young player, he is going to have good bad games and runs of form. Zouma is exactly the same, he had great games last season but also had horrific games, have you forgotten he played when Bradford wacky four past us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Zouma shat all over Aguero last season. Zouma is better than Cahill in my opinion.That is a myth. Zouma did not shit all over Aguero. He had a good game and made an excellent challenge on Aguero but there were occasions where Aguero caused problems, ran past our defence and had a couple chances he should have convert. He was a nuisance. But, yeah he made an excellent challenge on him but the draw that day was not really down to our defence. Courtois made some great saves and they domianted the game but just were wasteful in front of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 That is a myth. Zouma did not shit all over Aguero. He had a good game and made an excellent challenge on Aguero but there were occasions where Aguero caused problems, ran past our defence and had a couple chances he should have convert. He was a nuisance. But, yeah he made an excellent challenge on him but the draw that day was not really down to our defence. Courtois made some great saves and they domianted the game but just were wasteful in front of goal.But did Aguero have a chance though? He had Aguero in his pocket. Everytime Aguero tried to outpace him he tackled him. It reminded me of the days when Cole had Ronaldo in his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Ramires plays like a braindead animal. He just runs, no technique whatsoever. Ever since the goal he scored against Barca he lost all the skill he once had.Plays a lot like a teammate in my indoor league. They always find themselves in the middle of the action and sometimes do the right thing, but it's always because of chance more than skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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