Joshybizzle 109 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 So I've seen a lot of people slating David Luiz for his pretty wasteful Free Kick taking last night, not that it mattered in the end thankfully!I'd just like to see who you guys think should be stepping up, maybe you prefer someone different depending on if its the left or right side of goal? Maybe you like David Luiz's tomahawk free kicks, maybe you're a fan of Oscar after he scored that beauty against Stoke? Maybe you prefer the tried and tested Frank Lampard who really has scored some screamers, i'm talking about FA cup against Tottenham a couple of seasons agoI'm talking about shots on goal here, not crosses from our wideAlso, i'm not a huge fan of Willians corners, i always liked seeing Oscar or Hazard step up to take one, so who'd you take on corner duty?For me its either Luiz or Oscar, but Hazard can hit them, I've seen Eto'o take one but.. Just no TLDR; Who should be stepping up to hit our free kicks & corners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,139 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Depends on distance really, that first one last night was too close for Luiz to get up and down, hence why Willian should of taken it. It was close so it was easier to get up and down using the technique Willian does rather than that of Luiz. Luiz is suited to 30yards plus because the distance determines that you can get it up and down with a lot more ease.Willian stood over the first using the 9 o'clock angle, sort of side on which for me is correct to generate swerve and also dip. Execution is paramount also, these guys have it in abundance but for me Willian/Oscar just outside the box and Luiz slightly further out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshybizzle 109 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Willian/Oscar just outside the box and Luiz slightly further out. Think you hit the nail on the head there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think Hazard should takes free kicks when Oscar isn´t playing. Eden scored some free kicks in Lille, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,139 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Also, when you are as close as Luiz was on the first you are more hoping that the wall splits and it goes through a gap. Funnily enough last Saturday my kids team trained on the astro turf and when training finished, and for a bit of fun I had the kids trying to hit free-kicks like Luiz does with his side foot and getting it up and down. Have you tried this? It's unbelievably difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I actually think Willian is good at taking corners/set-pieces. It's not a coincidence he's been taking them despite being the new guy. Hazard and Oscar are poor at taking them tbh.As for free-kicks, nobody in the team is even close to being a specialist. Lampard from range if he's playing, Oscar from close range. Hazard hasn't been taking FKs at all since his arrival, must not fancy taking them himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think David should be restricted from near - the - box kicks. His technique is absolutely useless from there. If he uses power, like against United, if I am not mistaken, it's okay, but his try-outs have given me enough killed enthusiasm. Wilian, Oscar, Eden, heck Matic, would be a good try (Matic for the power). Willian and Oscar have the swerve , the dip, Hazard also. Freekicks above 28-29m should be taken by Luiz or Lamps though. That is where this technique can beat any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think Hazard should takes free kicks when Oscar isn´t playing. Eden scored some free kicks in Lille, right?Yup scored a couple at Lille.Only one i could find on YT was this one.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhfoHhO8X-YDon't get why he doesn't take them. Doesn't even seem to step up to them for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This and adorability are two areas where we miss Mata massively. I don't think anyone in particular's exceptional in this area, so whoever feels confident out of Lamps, Luiz, Willian and Oscar should take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I wonder how Matic is at pinging a freekick? He has a pretty mean shot after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I wonder how Matic is at pinging a freekick? He has a pretty mean shot after all.he could be our new Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Moreso than fks, its the corners I worry about...FKs, oscar, willian, schurrle are all somewhat decent. Corners on the otherhand, Im not sure anyone is cept Lampard. Whenever Luiz takes fks, I usually do the xavi impression (in the confed. cup champ game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 We don't really have a specialist anymore and I hope we acquire one in the summer. It really would be a shame to have it as our weakness going forward - especially when you compare some of the teams around us who seem to have them in abundance: Yaya, Silva, Kolarov, RVP, Rooney, Mata, Suarez, Coutinho, Gerrard etc. can all take consistently great, sometimes, WC set-pieces. Then you look at Willian being unable to beat the first man for a corner for about the third time in one game, it's disheartening! It's something that we're really lacking right now.For now I would say Hazard/Oscar. Luiz is waaaaaay too inconsistent. So many times he doesn't even hit the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This and adorability are two areas where we miss Mata massively. I don't think anyone in particular's exceptional in this area, so whoever feels confident out of Lamps, Luiz, Willian and Oscar should take it. Was an absolutely incredible set piece taker. Gave the two corners in Munich and Amsterdam!he could be our new Alex ah! The one he banged into the roof of the net against the Scousers at home!Lovely!Moreso than fks, its the corners I worry about...FKs, oscar, willian, schurrle are all somewhat decent. Corners on the otherhand, Im not sure anyone is cept Lampard. Whenever Luiz takes fks, I usually do the xavi impression (in the confed. cup champ game). It's a pity that we struggle at giving good Corner deliveries since we're so good in the air with Luiz, Matic, Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic all on the pitch together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshybizzle 109 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's a pity that we struggle at giving good Corner deliveries since we're so good in the air with Luiz, Matic, Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic all on the pitch together! That's a very good point, with the height and heading ability we've got in the side we really should be threatening more from set pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 willian should probably have a clause in his contract. everytime he clears the first man in taking corners, he get 5k, everytime his delivery is cleared by the first man, 5k get subtracted. that would probably be the only way to improve our corners.in my opinion it is CRIMINAL to hit the bloody first man when u have players like JT, GC, iva and DL in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Before Mata left we didn't really have a problem with set piece takers but hopefully in the summer we sign a CM (like Kroos or something) who does have the ability to deliver accurate set pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Willian is frustrating. He seems to deliver the corners and indirect free-kicks either too low (most of the time), too high or just plain inaccurately. When Lampsy plays, he's a nailed on corner and indirect fk taker for me. I'm worried if Willian is the best we got to be honest, because we got so many good box scorers in our team it's not even funny anymore that we don't utilize this strength to the maximum. Given our lack of efficiency from open-play, making use of set-pieces can make the difference between 3 points and 1 point.I would like to see Hazard taking a direct free-kick now and then. If he really wants to be a complete player, he should start doing so. Real leaders usually take the responsiblity. I don't believe he lacks the skill to do it, maybe he just doesn't want to or doesn't work on it, which would be a shame. Otherwise I have no idea who could take our free-kicks, all of them pretty much suck at it. Luiz can score the odd goal every once in a while and so can Oscar apparently, but the rest haven't given me any reason to think they would be any better either... except for maybe Lampard, who isn't a regular anymore and he still fancies hitting the wall more than the goal, so who knows.Oh, and what about Ivanovic? I think he has hit some piledrivers for Serbia. Could be worth a shot (pun intended) from distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Willian's deliveries from both freekicks and corners have been pretty awful in the last couple of games. Oscar obviously has practiced, which is good cos he usually plays. The problem with both Luiz and Lamps is for every freekick scored they hammer 30 in the stands or in the wall. IMO you should always try to get them at goal, even if you know you can't score, so a deflection or a bad save from the keeper can still lead to a goal. Also one of our problems is that we got no left footed set piece taker any more. So Matic or Salah should learn to take freekicks. In general I am always surprised that professionals who get shitloads of money to practice playing football for years need dozens of tries to get some decent set pieces together. Even as an amateur I used to hammer one in the top corner once in a while. However I guess the pressure does indeed play a part. so I'd haveIndirect long range free-kicks 30m+LampsDirect long range free-kicks 30m+Lamps, LuizDirect medium range freekicks 25-30Luiz, SchürrleIndirect medium range freekicksLamps, Close range direct less than 25mOscar, LampsClose range indirectLamps, Oscar, Willian (if he gets his shit together)CornersLamps, Oscar, Willianbut as said above, anyone feeling confident about the kick should get a chance. Thing is, if you are no regular taker the pressure is even higher, so the players should communicate in advance.In general set pieces are something we really have to work on. Mata has left and Lamps will probably leave in summer, so our only natural set piece takers are gone,w e have to find new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's all about the technique these days.William has got a mean cross especially coming from a 7-8 o'clock position to swerve the ball into the crowded area from 30+ yards outDirect FK from that sort of range should be left to Luiz or Lamps, if he is playing, since only those have the confidence atm to go for it and the technique is quite accurate as well.Closer to the goal, I'd go with Oscar or Hazard. And we do miss Mata at corners so much. Lamps at corners is the next best thing we have with Willain not providing that extra bit of magic like we had with Mata. Is it just me or are FK/Corners from left footed players more aesthetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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