Barbara 15,149 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Mourinho: 'We were too soft with the ball and too soft without the ball. We were not aggressive enough in possession.' #CFC Mourinho: 'We gave them 45 minutes of a friendly in the first half and we only had a reaction after they scored the first goal.' #CFCLive Yup.At least Mourinho agrees with us the problem was the frigging first time and will be convinced mazacar is a huge no.I don't care if he plays Oscar or Mata, as long as he doesn't play both. The problem isn't having Hazard with them, is having Oscar and Mata.So either play one of them, or even none if he must, but not the two.Mata wasn't bad and Oscar was the guy who created 3 out of our 4 chances of goal in the second half, crossing to Eto'o, Willian and Hazard. But if we have wingers like Schürrle, or players like Willian - that while not a winger himself, plays much better in the wing, why play Mata or Oscar?Our pressing - which has been the key to our two last wins (not much a factor against Schalke, but still it was good then) was rubbish today.I can't for the life of me blame Torres as I've seen some blaming and even implying he played like his 'old' Chelsea form. He tried, but the problem was in the guys playing behind him. Oscar didn't participate enough in the first, Mata and Hazard seemed to have wanted to pass the ball in a Barcelona fashion to get inside the net, it seems, but didn't give us anything but a couple of nice exchanges of passes. So how do we blame Torres when one AM doesn't do anything and the other two think they'll pass themselves into the net instead of going for the objective play?Lamps was terrible, Ramires was shy, Luiz was below par, Cole was what he's been this season for the most part - useless and slow, Ivanovic wasn't bad defending, but God help him attacking... and that's it.Willian should have started and he changed a bit the game when he came. Schurrle probably touched the ball once in addition to that header (at least I can't remember anything from him), and Eto'o while received service, was always well marked and had his shots blocked.We were better in the second, after we gave them and their supporters confidence to believe if they tried they could win (because they didn't even try in the first).So I don't care who Mourinho picks for Schalke between Oscar and Mata, just don't pick both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Despite all the stick Moyes and United have got, they will be only 3 points behind us after today... God what a waste today, so mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Can't believe Torres is the X-factor on this team. No surprise we were exposed after an invisible performance.Seems like we can't create anything unless he dribbles past players himself.Part of the problem is the fullbacks. They literally offer fuck all in attack. When you watch the likes of Bayern, Atletico, Dortmund etc it just becomes more noticeable.Azpi, Bertrand, Mikel and Willian have earned their places for Schalke in my eyes. The alternatives haven't been good enough.Might as well say it now: Chelsea aren't getting a Premier League pass to the Champions League this season, so if CL next season is a priority despite the suggestions over the summer of "Mourinho's long-term project here," I think it's time to hit the January transfer market early for something in CM. And, BTW, I'm NOT going to throw Ashley Cole under the bus yet because not only is Ramires babysitting Lampard, but I would say Cole must also. Still think we need much more from a RB though. I don't think Azpi crosses well with his right foot either, but maybe we'll see a little more of that soon enough (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Would have been great if we drew, but these kind of results happen and its best that they happen at this stage of the season than later. We're no closer to Arsenal and Liverpool but that's not important right now. Hope we get back to winning ways in the next game itself.And food for thought..."Mazacar" does better for Eto'o than Torres (who would prefer a more direct attacker like Schurrle playing alongside him). And of course, its been clear for a while now...that Lampard struggles when the team is on the back-foot. We really should go for another CM in January, and possibly give Mikel/Essien some more starting chances. First mistake today was playing mazacarWe just started playing like benitez team and got last seasons performance. Im sure it wont happen again.We put our best player this season on the wings and wasted the first half.According to mourinho, 45 mins of a friendly match and exciting flicks between hazard and mataIm happy we have now seen the results of mazacar, no penetration, no speed, lampard becomes terrible, torres looks lost again because they are providing him fuck alland it just completely turned to benitez team lol.Mazacar just wont work with mourinho's style, i hope its the last time we see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 How on fucking earth we lost the game?!!! We win against City and then against Le Arse. Jose rotated the whole team in midweek to have every one ready and fresh for this one in which Newcastle couldn't do and you expect an easy win all this circumstances but we lose anyway! this is fucking pure bullshit Man City win down the drain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Torres ran and ran as always but the deliveries were terrible. We can't forget though roles reversed Newcastle would have got those 2 penalties and won the game regardless, bloody joke he gave neither to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 How on fucking earth we lost the game?!!! We win against City and then against Le Arse. Jose rotated the whole team in midweek to have every one ready and fresh for this one in which Newcastle couldn't do and you expect an easy win all this circumstances but we lose anyway! this is fucking pure bullshit Man City win down the drain! We lost the game because we just didn't turn up, we lost because all game we didn't do enough.You can't take this result away from Newcastle, they took their chances and deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wj818 25 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I've said it before and I'll say it again, If opponents sit deep, we cant score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 i just saw livescore and feel like shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Glad to see many others realising what was our basic problem. Mata Oscar Hazard simply cannot play together. We are too slow and that takes everyone out of the game and never lets any momentum build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Hazard looked very promising at the start running at people and winning fouls. Then for about 30 minutes he did not touch the ball, i honestly don't know what we were doing but Luiz and Terry had the ball every other pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 There is no MOTM every one were shiit. i can't name anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Despite all the stick Moyes and United have got, they will be only 3 points behind us after today... Yes, but it's pathetic that we did not keep up the same effort. Nobody turned up today!Now the best we can hope for is a Arsenal-Liverpool-Tottenham to all drop points...none of which I really see as title-challengers. But then again, with anymore performances like this, are we?Shitty weekend! We really need to ensure this is only a one game blip and that it doesn't turn into the November slump. Especially with all these very winnable games coming up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 There is no MOTM every one were shiit. i can't name anyone.That is what I said and I honestly can't and I can't think of another game like it were I simply can't say oh .... Was brilliant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 This whole team changes, it just does not work well. The 10 players change is useless. The so called B team was better than today´s team. Jose must have seen it. No commitment, no fight in the team, error passing, all went wrong.To blame the 3 amigos is just clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We move on lads, keep smiling and enjoy Saturday as best you can.Special Juan loves you all, keep the blue flag flying high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I just don't get how we could do so well and then so shi** we really looked like headless chickens today and I don't know why. If we are to really compete we need to not lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 planet earth to chelsea football club - "we're glad to have you back!"well, fair play to pardew, he was smarter than jose and he won that game for newcastle. After watching the 1st half and seeing our players' attitude and how frustrated mourinho was, i thought, you know, we would come back for the 2nd half with a different approach and with a better attitude, but instead we got RAPED!!! in the midfield area by anita, cabaye and sissoko. That's why i'm saying pardew won that game for them: he noticed our pivot is SHIT with Lamps there and he took his chances - press higher up the pitch and see if that is working; well, it worked just fine, Ramires could not cope with the pressure by himself and newcastle won this game. With all due respect for Frank, this wonderful player and this Chelsea Football Club LEGEND, but we need Mikel-Ramires in the pivot from now on, especially away from home against difficult opponents such as newcastle. It is my first time here when writing about Lamps, i thought, you know, this pivot with him and Ramires might work just fine, knowing that Jose is in charge, but it seems every story has its ending and we have a saying here in Romania - "age does not forgive you". And add to all this Oscar's performance today - he had a horror game, he has done nothing on the pitch, he was shit both offensively and defensively and i'm sure more games like this will come for him because nobody is perfect. And this is why we need another player next to Ramires, we need a guy to help him when someone will be having an off day, just like today. I admit we did win some important games with Lamps and Ramires in the pivot this season, but we would lie to ourselves if we think Lampard-Ramires is the right pivot for this team...i saw no spark in our game, it looked like they were expecting someone from Mars to come to St James' Park and put the ball in the net, but what's done is done. What does not kill you, makes you stronger. We had an off day, but fortunately we now have a couple of games at home to bounce back and be even stronger than we are now. The expectations were high before the game, but you know, let's stay positive! today was just an off day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 this match made us to realise somethings:1.When mazacar play,torres and lampard should not play2.our full backs are not good at attacking3.bertrand is better than cole at this moment4.oscar should not play on wings5.pivot problems6.Mazacar is narrow7.pressing should be improved8.Mata and oscar should not play together unless mata sticks to winger's role(sorry for being harsh barbara..i have to agree with you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 If I remember correctly, Jose always wanted around 22 players. Today´s Chelsea are 3-4 players too many. The midfield is cluttered with too many players. Some fine players are scratching their nuts, all week. Mikel, Essien, KDB are not being used, just to name the obvious ones. Jose has no place for Mata, William has to wait around, BA is picking his nose..Schurrle could have been on today, but no playing time for him....& some of you want to buy more players in January ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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