Willian

[Unionjack 7,531]

19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

What are your thoughts on Martial as a number 9 in the Sarri system (instead of Morata, Bats, Higuain,or Icardi)?

I's prefer Icardi but wouldn't mind Martial at all Can you sort it?

We aren't the club that attracts household name players and never really was. We get some good ones ranging between £30 and £50 ish Mill but will very rarely go over that and when we have done (specially strikers) it bites our arses!

I would sell and replace our top line but I'm not sure if our boards sharp enough to replace them in the time we have. But my optimistic heart still beats Blue.

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21 minutes ago, blu35_army said:

Seems impossible,,zero chance the club selling more than 7 players in short period like now. I bet we can sell maximum 5 players,,the other maybe loan...

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Well, assuming that Courtois, Willian and Morata are in finally stages of being sold (happy with all sales save Courtois) and Zouma is gone for sure (left off preseason team)

that leaves

Cahill ( multiple EPL clubs want him)

Bakayoko (Sevilla and Monaco want him, sure there are more)

Luiz (same as Zouma, with PSG very interested)

Alonso (multiple La Liga clubs, with Barca at top of list)

that only means

Drinkwater (who really wants out) and Moses would have to be really shopped (and I do believe other EPL teams are interested in either one or the other)

lets say we get stuck with Moses, that £20-25m is surely not going to be a make or break on the overall picture

most all of those sales HAVE to be made for multiple reasons

16 days to bring in players, BUT 5 to 7 weeks still to sell (France is a late close)

once the EPL window for incoming closes, that really dries up options coming out from the EPL talent pool for the other leagues, thus making teams like us, who WOULD still sell, more in the driver seat with the other leagues

 

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5 hours ago, eemanyooel said:

Source?

Sorry, lazy post.  

I should have added the words.  Maybe this is taking so long because...    .....well, that would be my wish.

[the wes 7,212]

Sky Germany understands that Bordeaux winger Malcom’s agent is in Barcelona to discuss a move for the Brazilian

if that's true seem like barcelona is going to lose interested in Willian 

[Special Juan 28,132]

Then it's ideal, we just have to squeeze United and get the deal done with Martial coming this way.

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20 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Then it's ideal, we just have to squeeze United and get the deal done with Martial coming this way.

In your dreams. More likely Willian is staying, especially with Luiz coming out and saying Willian loves playing for Chelsea and thinks he will stay. Those bids were rejected because he is deemed unsellable at this point because Sarri apparently likes him and the future of Hazard is still unknown.

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11 minutes ago, manpe said:

In your dreams. More likely Willian is staying, especially with Luiz coming out and saying Willian loves playing for Chelsea and thinks he will stay. Those bids were rejected because he is deemed unsellable at this point because Sarri apparently likes him and the future of Hazard is still unknown.

No way we sell Hazard at this point in the transfer window...So its insane how such an enormous bid for willian was rejected...

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6 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

No way we sell Hazard at this point in the transfer window...So its insane how such an enormous bid for willian was rejected...

We have got this whole transfer business a bit higgledy piggledy.

We by old,knackered,injured, players with low coinfidence for far too much money then we add them to the rest of  the collection in some broom cupbord instead of selling them And we get rid of our good players far too soon for hardly any money. While at the same time we dont sell players that openly dont want to be here that we could sell for loadsamoney to strengthen the team.

And our board is full of business people!

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8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

 

And our board is full of business people!

While i concur with most of your post...going by this part Willian should be in Nou Camp by now...

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Just now, eemanyooel said:

While i concur with most of your post...going by this part Willian should be in Nou Camp by now...

That line was the sarcastic ending 

[El P. 1,354]

What are our options if we really sell Willian for right wing? I came across the info that Pool gave up on Fekir because it was obvious he couldn't pass the medical (from really unreliable source). Could that be true?

But, other options? Suso from Milan? Who else? Bailey plays on the left as far as I know...

[Special Juan 28,132]

1 minute ago, El P. said:

What are our options if we really sell Willian for right wing? I came across the info that Pool gave up on Fekir because it was obvious he couldn't pass the medical (from really unreliable source). Could that be true?

But, other options? Suso from Milan? Who else? Bailey plays on the left as far as I know...

Zaha, Pulisic, Bailey and Fekir could all play there. Fekir is more suited to the #10 role though

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14 hours ago, James said:

Look, obviously £60 million is big money for a largely inconsistent winger, but i'm not going to moan if we keep him. Sarri's a big fan and It'll be interesting to see how he fairs in an attacking team. I mean the large majority of his time playing for Chelsea and Brazil have been under pragmatic coaches, the likes of Scoalri, Dunga, Tite, Mourinho and Conte. Who would have Mertens and Insigne would be world beaters under Rafa? all i'm saying is i'm relaxed either way. 

Agree with this. It's one of the things I constantly here about Hazard that he'd be so much better under a more attack minded coach, which I agree with. But the same has to be said about any of our attacking players, especially the likes of Willian and Pedro. Keeping the ball and attacking is far more effective for them than constantly sitting in front of their full back/wing back and defending.

Sarri apparently really likes Hazard and Willian and sees them as key within his system so I actually see us keeping both of them this season and giving Sarri every opportunity to (1) be a success and (2) hopefully convince them their future is here (especially Hazard).

On a side note people moaning about Willian's behaviour. Yes it wasn't great and he shouldn't have done it but there seems quite an overreaction on here. It's clear there were big problems between the players and Conte. If Willian comes back next season and is playing well people will soon change their tune and be glad he stayed.

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Tired of this little fecker. Proved in the wc how useless he really is. Should se him to China.

[Special Juan 28,132]

6 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Agree with this. It's one of the things I constantly here about Hazard that he'd be so much better under a more attack minded coach, which I agree with. But the same has to be said about any of our attacking players, especially the likes of Willian and Pedro. Keeping the ball and attacking is far more effective for them than constantly sitting in front of their full back/wing back and defending.

Sarri apparently really likes Hazard and Willian and sees them as key within his system so I actually see us keeping both of them this season and giving Sarri every opportunity to (1) be a success and (2) hopefully convince them their future is here (especially Hazard).

On a side note people moaning about Willian's behaviour. Yes it wasn't great and he shouldn't have done it but there seems quite an overreaction on here. It's clear there were big problems between the players and Conte. If Willian comes back next season and is playing well people will soon change their tune and be glad he stayed.

We need to look at age and selling value, the picture is much bigger and broader. This offer from Barcelona is huge, not only that, but what he did with Conte was plain wrong, no getting away from that.

What this team needs now is ridding of ego's or egos that think they can rule the roost. Anyone who isn't happy or thinks they are better than us should be sold immediately.

Willian is a good player, but on the flip side there are much better players out there than Willian who we could get and make us stronger.