🇧🇷 Willian

[Peace. 4,352]

As far as I can remember, last summer a lot of people (including me) were questioning Ferguson's will to buy van Persie, and were sceptical about this deal, because their striking force was already very good, while their midfield was grandly more in need for reinforcement than what their attack was. Ten months later, van Persie was the best goalscorer in the League, was the best player for Manchester, and he eventually won them the title.

I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities — it's merely to put things into perspective.

[Bacika 188]

WILLIAN TO BE UNVEILED AS CHELSEA PLAYER IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-willian-shun-spurs-chelsea-082748380.html

(Sorry if someone else posted it, I just returned home)

This won't happen. Firstly, he need to get work permit, and he won't get that before Monday, Tuesday at least... Also I doubt we will announce signing hours before our game against United..... I think we'll announce it on Tuesday or Wednesday... Let's wait and see =)

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

As far as I can remember, last summer a lot of people (including me) were questioning Ferguson's will to buy van Persie, and were sceptical about this deal, because their striking force was already very good, while their midfield was grandly more in need for reinforcement than what their attack was. Ten months later, van Persie was the best goalscorer in the League, was the best player for Manchester, and he eventually won them the title.

I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities — it's merely to put things into perspective.

Yeah, but now Rooney wants out.

[Tomo 21,751]

What could this mean to the rest of our attacking 6? something will have to give.

Maybe KDB or Oscar future is in the pivot?

Maybe Schurrle or Moses is getting seen as a forward and were getting shot of Torres and Ba if a new forward comes in?

or maybe Moses is leaving?

[Sidzeret 2,257]

This won't happen. Firstly, he need to get work permit, and he won't get that before Monday, Tuesday at least... Also I doubt we will announce signing hours before our game against United..... I think we'll announce it on Tuesday or Wednesday... Let's wait and see =)

Hopefully, together with the Rooney signing.....keeping my fingers crossed

[Sidzeret 2,257]

What could this mean to the rest of our attacking 6? something will have to give.

Maybe KDB or Oscar future is in the pivot?

Maybe Schurrle or Moses is getting seen as a forward and were getting shot of Torres and Ba if a new forward comes in?

or maybe Moses is leaving?

I reckon Mou intends to play De Bruyne on the pivot and Oscar or Willian as attacking midfielders with Mata out on the right wing with infinite freedom of movement.

Shuttle works as an auxiliary striker which leaves Moses as to much of a liability and will be sent out on loan.

I'd like to keep Moses on the side but I won't think he'll like to play just 20-25 games a season

[Sidzeret 2,257]

As far as I can remember, last summer a lot of people (including me) were questioning Ferguson's will to buy van Persie, and were sceptical about this deal, because their striking force was already very good, while their midfield was grandly more in need for reinforcement than what their attack was. Ten months later, van Persie was the best goalscorer in the League, was the best player for Manchester, and he eventually won them the title.

I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities it's merely to put things into perspective.

It's Mourinho now....it'll be even better

[Stingray 9,441]

I reckon Mou intends to play De Bruyne on the pivot and Oscar or Willian as attacking midfielders with Mata out on the right wing with infinite freedom of movement.

Shuttle works as an auxiliary striker which leaves Moses as to much of a liability and will be sent out on loan.

I'd like to keep Moses on the side but I won't think he'll like to play just 20-25 games a season

You may be right, i think!

[Cech's helmet 220]

People who are bashing this transfer are ridiculous. last year Man United and Man city had 4 top class strikers each. did it hurt them? did they really need them all? get over yourselves. it's stupid to splash 30m on another AM but the club know what they're doing. we clearly have the fund, so why not improve? I'm only going to doubt this transfer if we don't get Rooney because we didn't pay what United are asking. not because when United are not letting him go.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

As far as I can remember, last summer a lot of people (including me) were questioning Ferguson's will to buy van Persie, and were sceptical about this deal, because their striking force was already very good, while their midfield was grandly more in need for reinforcement than what their attack was. Ten months later, van Persie was the best goalscorer in the League, was the best player for Manchester, and he eventually won them the title.

I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities — it's merely to put things into perspective.

You can't make a post comparing two situations and then say "I'm not making comparisons"!

[Rmpr 8,977]

As far as I can remember, last summer a lot of people (including me) were questioning Ferguson's will to buy van Persie, and were sceptical about this deal, because their striking force was already very good, while their midfield was grandly more in need for reinforcement than what their attack was. Ten months later, van Persie was the best goalscorer in the League, was the best player for Manchester, and he eventually won them the title.

I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities it's merely to put things into perspective.

People who are bashing this transfer are ridiculous. last year Man United and Man city had 4 top class strikers each. did it hurt them? did they really need them all? get over yourselves. it's stupid to splash 30m on another AM but the club know what they're doing. we clearly have the fund, so why not improve? I'm only going to doubt this transfer if we don't get Rooney because we didn't pay what United are asking. not because when United are not letting him go.

LOOOL, people are ridiculous for not believing in this transfer? :lol2:

Manchester City had to let go of 2 of their 4 strikers, one haing his shirts burned by fans and the other almost fighting Mancini, and you say it did no harm to them?

About ManUtd, comparing RVP with Willian is the most unintelligent thing on Earth. They only had one great CF in Rooney and the rest was no more than average to good (Berbarov, Hernandez and Wellbeck), so it made a lot of sense to buy another striker. They payed less than what we are paying, but they bought a vastly more experienced player with a proved background in the EPL. Even though: they had to sell Berbatov, give Chichiarito no game time and made Rooney the most unhappiest superstar in football!

So tell me, what do you expect to happen with our 7 options for 3 starting spots? Dont tell me you are 100% sure Mata is safe...

EDIT: Peace, I quoted you because my quote to Cech actually fits with what I would answer you...

[Super-Mario 74]

According to telegraph moses will be loaned out...

[Stingray 9,441]

You can't make a post comparing two situations and then say "I'm not making comparisons"!

[Cech's helmet 220]

I wish we didn't sign Schurrle. we should have signed Willian for another attacking midfield/winger position from the the start. people here have high hopes on Andre. he's not that good, 18m pounds is ridiculous for a payer who should not cost more than 15m pounds. he's unproven and could be another Marko Marin which we bought for only 7m. not bashing the lad, just think Willian is a better footballer than him and gives us more options, even if the later costs 30m. quality over quantity.

[Jase 43,479]

WILLIAN TO BE UNVEILED AS CHELSEA PLAYER IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-willian-shun-spurs-chelsea-082748380.html

(Sorry if someone else posted it, I just returned home)

Think such news should be treated as rubbish after hearing countless of times about 'Cavani will be a Chelsea player in the next 48 hours' previously and it didn't even happen! Of course, we do look like getting Willian already as opposed to Cavani back then but let's just wait patiently. Will be made official sooner or later anyway.

Yeah, but now Rooney wants out.

TBF, Rooney has made noise about wanting to leave before already. Even though he has used that as a threat to get a better contract at United, he has hardly ever looked happy there in recent years and always seem to get into 'fights' with Fergie. He has always been on the edge of leaving OT.

[Cech's helmet 220]

LOOOL, people are ridiculous for not believing in this transfer? :lol2:

Manchester City had to let go of 2 of their 4 strikers, one haing his shirts burned by fans and the other almost fighting Mancini, and you say it did no harm to them?

About ManUtd, comparing RVP with Willian is the most unintelligent thing on Earth. They only had one great CF in Rooney and the rest was no more than average to good (Berbarov, Hernandez and Wellbeck), so it made a lot of sense to buy another striker. They payed less than what we are paying, but they bought a vastly more experienced player with a proved background in the EPL. Even though: they had to sell Berbatov, give Chichiarito no game time and made Rooney the most unhappiest superstar in football!

So tell me, what do you expect to happen with our 7 options for 3 starting spots? Dont tell me you are 100% sure Mata is safe...

EDIT: Peace, I quoted you because my quote to Cech actually fits with what I would answer you...

Yeah mate. having 4 strikers sure didn't help Man city and United battle for the PL alone for more than half of the season...

Oscar/De Bruyne are versatile and can occupy center midfield. we play 60 games a season. last year we were playing 2 times a week for more than half of the season. we had to play Luiz in CM and Bertrand/Ramires as a left/right wingers ffs...

We're building squad depth here. you really think we would sell our best player/fans favorite Mata? based on what? newsflash mate: we're not a selling club.

The team comes before any players little heart gets hurt for not playing. deal with it.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Yeah mate. having 4 strikers sure didn't help Man city and United battle for the PL alone for more than half of the season...

Oscar/De Bruyne are versatile and can occupy center midfield. we play 60 games a season. last year we were playing 2 times a week for more than half of the season. we had to play Luiz in CM and Bertrand/Ramires as a left/right wingers ffs...

We're building squad depth here. you really think we would sell our best player/fans favorite Mata? based on what? newsflash mate: we're not a selling club.

The team comes before any players little heart gets hurt for not playing. deal with it.

Yes, and that is why we bought Schurrle and brought KDB back, to have depth and compete on a high level!

50-60 games is not even that much, Brazilian teams usually play 80 games per year and they cope with a lot less quality and options. Dont make it as if this was the end of the world...

30 million on another attacking player is a luxury we didnt need (what we had was enough to competitively fight for trophies). Not that Willian wont add quality and balance things out. It is just that we have bigger holes in our squad that could have taken advantage of those 30mi much wiser than on a RW that is still a bit of a gamble.

Dont try to play the victim and act like you are trying to view what is best for the team and I am not trying to defend what is best for Chelsea. I am as much of a fan than anyone is, so shut up!

People can have different views and still want the same result, what is best for CFC...

[Yeboii 1,844]

Yeah, but now Rooney wants out.

I think thats because he wants a new challenge or maybe because he doesnt like Moyes

[Peace. 4,352]

You can't make a post comparing two situations and then say "I'm not making comparisons"!

"I am not drawing comparisons between the two players and their abilities/capacities [...]"

I solely point out some similarities in regard of one aspect of the deal(s). The comparisons end there. The sole parallel between both players is their role in both stories — not regarding their abilities or capacities.

[communicate 2,703]

I don't like this signing. Yes Willian will give us another option on the right but do we really need it. Paying 30 m for upgrade on squad player is just crazy.

Will this signing make us better compare to city/united/bayern/Madrid? I highly doubt it