francozola 2,040 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Don't see why this has to mean Mata is off to Utd.Im just waiting for Jose's press conference now. Hopefully he will once again strongly reiterate that Juan isn't going to be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Is it just me or has it been a really crazy transfer window in general with all the rooney/bale/mata/suarez/fabregas/ronaldo/benteke/willian/luiz transfer soaps? And apart from bale apparently very lttle has come from all these rumours (so far).Yep apart from Mata and Willian, none of them actually look likely to happen atm but it is not fabricated because we all know that they are true.Rooney- wants to leave MU, we bid but MU doesn't sell-blockBale- wants to join Madrid, Spurs want more than 100m, Madrid try to lower it but I think an agreement was reach-soon will be happebingMata- allegedly is disliked by Jose because he doesn't fit his style, being on the bench a lot for ''fitness issues'' and talk involves a swap with Rooney- on standby atmSuarez- came out and made it clear wants to leave, Pool doesn't sell and now looks like staying-probably resolved until next summerFabregas-MU publicly made a bid, Barca said he wants to stay and he confirmed he did-put to bedRonaldo- having problem with new contract, rumor surfaces-not gonna happen at least in this summerBenteke-handed in transfer request before changing his mind- sortedWillian-we know what is happening...Luiz- Barca bid, we doesn't want to sell-end for nowSo apart from Ronaldo and Mata rumors, all of them were actually serious concrete interests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think either Oscar or De Bruyne will play deeper if we sign Willian.not necessarily in the double pivot but not on the wing or #10. Mata can go back there.there's a chance Mata could leave I admit but Don't think it's the most likely outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose M 140 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The fact we have shown interest in Willian, in no way means we will sign the kid. I personally dont think we need him and it will just cause a selection dilemma. There is no way he is any better than Juan. If Willian does make it to the Bridge he should be prepared to sit bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The hype in this thread is hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The fact we have shown interest in Willian, in no way means we will sign the kid. I personally dont think we need him and it will just cause a selection dilemma. There is no way he is any better than Juan. If Willian does make it to the Bridge he should be prepared to sit bench.Why would Willian come to Chelsea just to sit on the bench?He could be a first team regular at Liverpool, Spurs or even United... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose M 140 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The hype in this thread is hilariousIts probably because of the Massive YELLOW BREAKING NEWS ticker haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Why would Willian come to Chelsea just to sit on the bench?He could be a first team regular at Liverpool, Spurs or even United...Exactly, hence the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose M 140 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Why would Willian come to Chelsea just to sit on the bench?He could be a first team regular at Liverpool, Spurs or even United...Exactly thats why he shouldn't come to the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 If we are going to sign one more AM or winger, my first and only option would be Marco Reus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 That'd because of the Brazilian bias of the Ukrainian league. Person above mentioned the same with Fernandinho.I don't think I could stomach seeing Mata go to United. He's too perfect of a human to go there.Hitler ITT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christacinto 137 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I personally was very inmpressed when I watched him play last season, but it's lunacy in my mind to buy another attacking midfielder. It's the segment of our team wherewe need the least reinforcement. Buy a top DM-player or bring another defender (the ST position is too redundant to even bring up), but Willian?It only makes sense if we're using one of our existing AM players as bargaining chips to procure a different kind of reinforcement elsewhere in the team.Mata for Rooney? looking more likely right about now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Willian is a dribbler, only hazard and moses do that for us, but moses not as much as willian though. That astonvilla game was a perfect example of a match needing a moment of magic from somewhere and hazard didn't do it enough, so adding another xfactor on the opposite flank to take some pressure of hazard won't be a bad idea.touché!!!unlike most of you guys, I have never been impressed by Oscar. He might be a talented lad with lots of potential to develop into one of the best attacking mids in this football game, but he's just simply not the type of player I enjoy watching. My point is - although this team has tons of attacking mids, there is a spot that needs to be filled, and that's the RW. Moses is the only natural player that can play there. And maybe KDB, but he is more of an AMC. That's why I think, and Jose thinks,too (if the rumours are true), that Willian can fill in that spot. You can say what you want about the transfer fee, or his wages, or his hair, but you simply can't say he isn't a top class footballer. I've watched this lad week in, week out since his arrival in Europe (every Shakhtar's game is broadcasted live in Romania because Lucescu is coaching them) and he is a beast. Dribbling, first touch, passing, technique, creativity, pace = Level World Class. He can play as a LW, AMC and RW, too. You can't say he is a LW, or an AMC, just because now he's a RW, in 10 minutes he'll be on the left wing, then in the center and so on. He is a versatile player. Since his arrival in Anzhi, he has player more on the right wing for them, and also in the center, as a playmaker. We wouldn't just sign a world class footballer, but we would also sign a guy with personality, a leader.The game against Villa showed we desperately need a guy on the right wing. Except Hazard, there wasn't anyone else that can create something out of nowhere. Chelsea simply didn't hurt Villa on the wings, especially on the right wing.I can only imagine:Hazard <------> Mata <------> Willianone of the most dynamic line of attacking midfielders in modern football.And one more thing: Rooney = £40mil transfer fee + £15-16mil per year wages Willian + Eto'o = £32mil + £4-5mil transfer fee and £4-5mil per year + £8-9mil per year wagesI'm an avid fan of Rooney and I'd love him playing for Chelsea, but if he won't end up here, I'd stick with Willian and Eto'o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Yep apart from Mata and Willian, none of them actually look likely to happen atm but it is not fabricated because we all know that they are true.Rooney- wants to leave MU, we bid but MU doesn't sell-blockBale- wants to join Madrid, Spurs want more than 100m, Madrid try to lower it but I think an agreement was reach-soon will be happebingMata- allegedly is disliked by Jose because he doesn't fit his style, being on the bench a lot for ''fitness issues'' and talk involves a swap with Rooney- on standby atmSuarez- came out and made it clear wants to leave, Pool doesn't sell and now looks like staying-probably resolved until next summerFabregas-MU publicly made a bid, Barca said he wants to stay and he confirmed he did-put to bedRonaldo- having problem with new contract, rumor surfaces-not gonna happen at least in this summerBenteke-handed in transfer request before changing his mind- sortedWillian-we know what is happening...Luiz- Barca bid, we doesn't want to sell-end for nowSo apart from Ronaldo and Mata rumors, all of them were actually serious concrete interestsMata has been on the bench ALOT? one game out of 2.... Some people on this forum, oh god...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Mata has been on the bench ALOT? one game out of 2.... Some people on this forum, oh god......It is in US preseason as well and I am not saying a lot, I just mean often in Jose's short time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wiki page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willian_Borges_da_Silva says he is a left winger.Maybe he is cover and Competition for Hazard ? and we will let Moses go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It is in US preseason as well and I am not saying a lot, I just mean often in Jose's short time here.He came back later because of the Confed Cup and was not fit for 90 mins so he starts on the bench, so what? Pre Season does not matter mate. So please stop posting in each thread about United being Matas last match because it will not be! Drop it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Why would Willian come to Chelsea just to sit on the bench?He could be a first team regular at Liverpool, Spurs or even United...Because Chelsea are the better club perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Mata has not been "on the bench a lot". Given the crazy amount of football he's played in the last 12-14 months it's understandable that he was given more time off and isn't fully fit atm. Seriously... need to stop believing what the papers write. There has been absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Jose does not fancy Juan Mata. He has not said anything to even hint that he feels this way. Ever since he returned, the papers said that Jose doesn't like Mata and everyone just believed it. When he was obviously given more time off due to his participation in the confeds cup, the papers start coming up with more crap, despite the fact that the other players who played in that tournament were given the exact same amount of time off.Jesus.I'm not saying that he definitely won't be sold. Just that people need to calm the heck down until there are some actual quotes from Jose or Mata himself.Edit: Quotes by Mata on the official website: "After having four weeks of holiday for the first time in as long as I can remember, it was very hard to come back from almost nothing to 100 per cent. I think that's why I had some muscle pain during that time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 touché!!!unlike most of you guys, I have never been impressed by Oscar. He might be a talented lad with lots of potential to develop into one of the best attacking mids in this football game, but he's just simply not the type of player I enjoy watching. My point is - although this team has tons of attacking mids, there is a spot that needs to be filled, and that's the RW. Moses is the only natural player that can play there. And maybe KDB, but he is more of an AMC. That's why I think, and Jose thinks,too (if the rumours are true), that Willian can fill in that spot. You can say what you want about the transfer fee, or his wages, or his hair, but you simply can't say he isn't a top class footballer. I've watched this lad week in, week out since his arrival in Europe (every Shakhtar's game is broadcasted live in Romania because Lucescu is coaching them) and he is a beast. Dribbling, first touch, passing, technique, creativity, pace = Level World Class. He can play as a LW, AMC and RW, too. You can't say he is a LW, or an AMC, just because now he's a RW, in 10 minutes he'll be on the left wing, then in the center and so on. He is a versatile player. Since his arrival in Anzhi, he has player more on the right wing for them, and also in the center, as a playmaker. We wouldn't just sign a world class footballer, but we would also sign a guy with personality, a leader.The game against Villa showed we desperately need a guy on the right wing. Except Hazard, there wasn't anyone else that can create something out of nowhere. Chelsea simply didn't hurt Villa on the wings, especially on the right wing.I can only imagine:Hazard <------> Mata <------> Willianone of the most dynamic line of attacking midfielders in modern football.And one more thing: Rooney = £40mil transfer fee + £15-16mil per year wages Willian + Eto'o = £32mil + £4-5mil transfer fee and £4-5mil per year + £8-9mil per year wagesI'm an avid fan of Rooney and I'd love him playing for Chelsea, but if he won't end up here, I'd stick with Willian and Eto'o. Finally someone that has actually watched him properly. And know what we lack in the attack that goes unnoticed(better direct dribbling) He has great: balance, creativity, dribbling, skills, pace, first touch on hazards level. He will occupy the RW without any problems. He reminds me of Reus with more skills I wanted him at chelsea waaaay before we signed oscar and hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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