the wes 7,212 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Willian and Chelsea open talks over new £100k-a-week dealhttp://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/willian-and-chelsea-open-talks-over-new-100kaweek-deal-a3120836.html? Johnnyeye and Essien19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Not sure what it is that you're not buying Jay.I'd have thought the fact that you have given a list of players from our current squad blighted by this problem, that we could all give a list of names of similarly afflicted players in every Chelsea squad for as far back as our individual memories stretch and that fans of every club could carry out the same exercise, would underline the accuracy of what I've written.As far as I remember, this wasn't much of a problem until like 2-3 years ago. It's like we don't even practice taking set pieces in training because if we really do, the deliveries wouldn't have been so inconsistent. Used to remember we have an excellent set piece takers before this current crop of players - Lampard, Ballack, Deco etc (can even throw Mata in there too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,125 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 As far as I remember, this wasn't much of a problem until like 2-3 years ago. It's like we don't even practice taking set pieces in training because if we really do, the deliveries wouldn't have been so inconsistent. Used to remember we have an excellent set piece takers before this current crop of players - Lampard, Ballack, Deco etc (can even throw Mata in there too).All the names you've mentioned frequently hit the first man.You've given a time frame of 2-3 years ago. If I take four years ago as definitely being outside that period and look at season 2011-2012, how much will you give me if I search the archives and find 100 mentions of this problem in that season alone? I'm confident that I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Not buying that. We're talking about something that can be improved in practice/training, not something that can only be done by a few footballers. I'm not saying that we have to score from every corner or free kick but the least a player should do is deliver the ball into the box without hitting the first man. If it only happens once every blue moon, then fine. But it has happened way too often and it's the same problem every time even with different takers - Willian, Fabregas, Oscar etc. It's absolutely criminal that you get a chance to score from a set piece and you can't even beat the first man!perhaps its the way we always try to 'fizz' it in at lower faster trajectory rather than the odd lofted dolly drop to the far post or pen spot which are easier to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 As far as I remember, this wasn't much of a problem until like 2-3 years ago. It's like we don't even practice taking set pieces in training because if we really do, the deliveries wouldn't have been so inconsistent. Used to remember we have an excellent set piece takers before this current crop of players - Lampard, Ballack, Deco etc (can even throw Mata in there too).Mata was far better than anyone taking setpieces for us now Jase, DYC. and Amblève. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Mata was far better than anyone taking setpieces for us nowbring back Lewis Baker....can take decent set pieces with both feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 All the names you've mentioned frequently hit the first man.You've given a time frame of 2-3 years ago. If I take four years ago as definitely being outside that period and look at season 2011-2012, how much will you give me if I search the archives and find 100 mentions of this problem in that season alone? I'm confident that I would. But the likes of Willian, Oscar, Fabregas have all been consistently bad at it. Even if you can find examples of Lampard, Ballack etc failing at delivering set pieces in 2011/12, they weren't as bad on the whole as the first trio mentioned there. If the players practice them regularly in training, then the end result wouldn't be so inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 bring back Lewis Baker....can take decent set pieces with both feet.I'm not saying that we need David Beckham, but it's kind of annoying to see footballers in our club almost always hitting the first man on corners. Putting it in the middle would at least give the players a chance to go for it. In my opinion, they don't put much practice into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm not saying that we need David Beckham, but it's kind of annoying to see footballers in our club almost always hitting the first man on corners. Putting it in the middle would at least give the players a chance to go for it. In my opinion, they don't put much practice into itI know what you mean and it can be very frustrating however I am sure they do practice set pieces a lot and the odd lofted ball into the area rather than the lower fast ones would make a difference otherwise the set pieces become too predictable.Am sure the likes of JT and Cahill etc would have something to say after getting in position for each one then having to sprint back for nothing kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,579 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Willian has won goal of the week in matchday 4 of the Champions League Congrats.http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/goal-of-the-week/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 "The shit from Spurs, they bought his flightBut Willian he saw the lightHe got the call from AbramovichAnd off he went to Stamford BridgeHe hates Tottenham, He hates TottenhamHe Hates Tottenham and He Hates Tottenham" Johnnyeye and stroey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 You look like Pedro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 How long will this go on? FK #5 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Different class from a dead ball but do not under estimate his contribution to this team all over the park. Hybrid Angel and stroey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Where would we be without him this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Love to see him thrive like this. stroey and Stats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 How long will this go on? FK #5 I think.#6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Are you Pirlo in disguise?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 #6Even crazier. I'm just waiting for the dry spell. Not that I want it to happen but there's no other way. 8-10 FKs in a season is very rare, 10+ is extremely rare. Maybe Oscar can score a few when it happens or something.But great stuff from Willian. Reminds me of Drogba in 09/10. Out of nothing he became a specialist for a year. Never came close to it ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Are you Pirlo in disguise??Pirlo has been Willian in disguise this whole time. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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