11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It is crazy how you defend Mourinho no matter what. Mourinho would like to bring players like Reus, Cavani, Di Maria, Rooney, Pogba and Vidal to Chelsea but not Griezmann or Mata. Those players are also technical but also physical and defend well. Like I said Mourinho adapts to leagues. I guess he thinks physicality is extra important for PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Roman spent. Do you legitimately think Mourinho controls our transfer policy? He also spent 30m for Shevchenko right How much time did he give to Modric at Real? How often did he use Ozil in big games? He did eventually but he did not use him in Classicos at first. Sneijder is small but he tracks back. He also sold Robben right? Mourinho judges players just like a rugby coach. He might sign Griezmann but he would give more time to Schurlle or Willian.Your arguments are as valid as Mourinho's attractive football promise imho.If you had actually watched Madrid at that time you would know Modric wasn't playing well, It was his first season and he had a hard time adjusting. He was actually voted the worst signing in La Liga that year, it was a bit harsh but it tells you he wasn't at his best. Regarding Ozil, Mourinho rates him highly and he did start many the big games but nine times out of ten he would go missing, is that Jose's fault? there's a reason why he's known as the big game bottler.... talk to any Madrid fan and they will tell you that. The fact is Robben was constantly injured at Chelsea and with two years remaining on his contract he wasn't going to renew. It has nothing to do with Jose wanting him gone... in fact Mourinho actually said he wanted to him to stay, so again you're talking nonsense. Mourinho has managed the likes of Deco, Sneijder, Ozil and now it'll be Cesc. At Inter Sneijder was his main creative player, attacking-wise everything went through him and it was under Jose where he played his best football. You can continue to spout shit by saying 'he judges players like a rugby coach' but it just exposes how little you know about Jose, the teams he has managed and football in general. kellzfresh and Despiadado.Maleante 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You can continue to spout shit by saying 'he judges players like a rugby coach' but it just exposes how little you know about Jose, the teams he has managed and football in general. I would say the same thing about you guys.Hazard: Chelsea are not made to play football.Mourinho: Hazard is not ready to sacrifice himself for the team.This is how a rugby coach would reply to one of the most talented football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 1.If Roman wants Griezmann, Mourinho might say yes. But he would still prefer Schurrle not Griezmann.2. Willian is not as creative as Griezmann.3. Fan favourite does not mean Roman favorite does it?4. I said he did not prefer him at first. Then he realized without him they did not have the ball at all. If he wanted players like Griezmann, Mata at Chelsea we could have signed him last year.5. And why did he want to leave? Mata also wanted to leave in the end. If we sign Griezmann he will also want to leave. Remember Hazard's comments from last year.6. I am a Chelsea fan but I am not a fan of Mourinho like you guys.7. Hazard: "Chelsea are not made to play football."1. Why do you speak as if Roman has so much internal influence at the club? We don't know what he does on the inside, we don't even know if he attends board meetings.2. Can you prove that?3. Why do you keep bring up Roman? FFS it's like arguing about who would win in an imaginary fight between Jesus and Noah. It's such a mystery to everyone.4. Did he realise that? Do you have quotes?5. http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/08/09/player.robben/index.html What quotes from hazard?6. Good for you.7. I believe the original quote was in French. There are several English translations that imply very different meanings.It is crazy how you defend Mourinho no matter what. Mourinho would like to bring players like Reus, Cavani, Di Maria, Rooney, Pogba and Vidal to Chelsea but not Griezmann or Mata. Those players are also technical but also physical and defend well. Like I said Mourinho adapts to leagues. I guess he thinks physicality is extra important for PL.Can you provide quotes about those players from Mourinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Creative? I really don't see it. More striker than anything else. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 1. Why do you speak as if Roman has so much internal influence at the club? We don't know what he does on the inside, we don't even know if he attends board meetings.2. Can you prove that?3. Why do you keep bring up Roman? FFS it's like arguing about who would win in an imaginary fight between Jesus and Noah. It's such a mystery to everyone.4. Did he realise that? Do you have quotes?5. http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/08/09/player.robben/index.html What quotes from hazard?6. Good for you.7. I believe the original quote was in French. There are several English translations that imply very different meanings.Can you provide quotes about those players from Mourinho?Roman owns the club. It is just silly to question how much influence he has. Mourinho was given the job because he promised attractive football which he could not deliver.We know he wanted to sign Rooney. He brought Di Maria to Madrid and started him every single game. He likes players like Sneijder. Reus is also similar Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I would say the same thing about you guys.Hazard: Chelsea are not made to play football.Mourinho: Hazard is not ready to sacrifice himself for the team.This is how a rugby coach would reply to one of the most talented football players.I love how you just took a snippet of that quote to suit your anti Mourinho agenda...The full quote, "Chelsea is not made to play football. We are good in playing on the counter attack, a bit like Real against Bayern.", he never said a bad word about Chelsea. The french translation is bad but what he basically means is that Chelsea don't try and dominate possession, instead we counter like Real. He's definitely not having a dig at Jose or Chelsea. Mourinho was right, in this day and age your wingers have to keep track of the opposing fullback, no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Reus is also similar Oscar. I wish! The Chels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Roman owns the club. It is just silly to question how much influence he has. Mourinho was given the job because he promised attractive football which he could not deliver.We know he wanted to sign Rooney. He brought Di Maria to Madrid and started him every single game. He likes players like Sneijder. Reus is also similar Oscar. But it's alright to assume that he signs every player that the club does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Reus is similar to Oscar? :lol:I'm pretty certain this guy is that American dude that just loved Bradley. Namika and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I love how you took a snippet of that quote to suit your anti Mourinho agenda...The full quote, "Chelsea is not made to play football. We are good in playing on the counter attack, a bit like Real against Bayern.", he never said a bad word about Chelsea. The french translation is bad but what he basically means is that Chelsea don't try and dominate possession, instead we counter like Real. It's definitely not a dig at Jose or Chelsea. Mourinho was right, in this day and age your wingers have to keep track of the opposing fullback, no excuses. Talented players like to possess the ball and dominate not track back and counter attack like a small team. That's how Hazard wants to play, Roman wants us to play, and Mourinho promised that we would play, but could not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 But it's alright to assume that he signs every player that the club does?Where did I say every player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Talented players like to possess the ball and dominate not track back and counter attack like a small team. That's how Hazard wants to play, Roman wants us to play, and Mourinho promised that we would play, but could not deliver.Why hasn't Roman sacked him then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Where did I say every player?Maybe you didn't. You are evading the question though. You assume so much and prove very little. You talk a lot but you haven't really said anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Why hasn't Roman sacked him then?Last year Jose said we can not do that with that squad. He said he tried but we were losing points. So he changed the system. If we don't play attractive football and don't win any trophies I think he will fired. Mourinho also said if he does not win anything for years like Wenger he would resign himself. I thnk Roman gave him another year.I don't know why I get so much reaction. All I am saying is Mourinho would rather have a midfield like Lampard-Essien-Makalele in PL not Xavi-Busquets-Iniesta. That's about the football mentality of a coach.If he brings success I am fine with it but I don't think Mourinho would build a team in PL with Griezmann, Fabregas, Mata and Modric in midfield to play attractive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Talented players like to possess the ball and dominate not track back and counter attack like a small team. That's how Hazard wants to play, Roman wants us to play, and Mourinho promised that we would play, but could not deliver.Real Madrid is a small team then. Same for Dortmund, United (with SAF) and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Well, Ozil is very talented. And he loves the counterattacks! He is the Mourinhism itself. The most important player for Jose, probably.His magic: That is Mourinho. Very quick touches. Fast combination. Vertigo. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Real Madrid is a small team then. Same for Dortmund, United (with SAF) and many others.Every big team counter attacks when needed or the opponent is better at possesing the ball. Mourinho does that even against smaller teams. Again that is the management style of him. I don't enjoy it, I think talented players also rather play with the ball instead of tracking their opponents but as long as he can bring trophies I am fine with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Locking this for a couple of hours for obvious reasons. Guys, if you want to spend time abusing one another, use the DM facility. We don't all want to read it.Thankyou. BlueLion., Spike, Hamilton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Cheers for locking this and sorting it out, DavidEU. I've hidden all in the inappropriate posts.11Drogba, the next time you feel like sharing your vitriolic criticisms of one of my staff members, do so to me directly, via PM. I don't expect you to make a public show of things. You talk of maturity but you're the one at fault, in my opinion, Show some sense and let it go. Everyone, back on topic, or it'll be permanently locked. Spike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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