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24 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

We will as you said need another winger. And Boga for those 15m would be steal. He was one of better wingers in serie a and fantastic dribbler. Now there are reports we are linked with Benrahma for the same price. I mean why would we pick him over Boga?

There is only so many players who want to play consistently that you can keep happy and I'm assuming Boga would want that too. Plus, Lampard probably doesn't think Boga suits what he wants.

Also for years, we have always complained about we do not show enough faith in young players but now that the club are seemingly doing that with Pulisic, CHO, Ziyech, Werner etc as our wide options, people want more players to be signed. 

And not sure if people realize this but we are pretty bloated in midfield and the attacking areas, excluding Willian and Pedro. We need to sell a few players and streamline the squad, before even thinking of buying more players.

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Del Piero & Aguero comparisons come out. Come on guys, let's be calm here. Boga's impressed and all credit to him, but these comparisons are premature and becomes the reason we then turn our backs

Yes. When you have finally have some real talent, actually rated extremely highly across Europe, let them go.

Maybe Boga - like Hazard - needs 4-5 years of being a first team regular in a good league like France. Hazard is who he is now because of 5 seasons and nearly 200 games for Lille; he didn't get to thi

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11 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Boga would easily be our best dribbler in our squad. CHO is nowhere near his Level and CHO never was as infuential ad Boga in our youth.
I don't see a Chelsea winger that would be better than Boga right now. Pulisic? I don't think so and he is always injured anyway.
Next season with Ziyech, that might be different but Ziyech is a right winger or a no. 10. Boga's best position is left wing.
 

Pulisic and CHO have tremendous potential. One was paid 65m euros and the other after giant club like Bayern tried hard to buy him got big contract here. So our club have big expectations from them. We decided not to go for Sancho because of them and you think we would put Boga ahead? Even if Boga is better than them (he is not) because of this reasons it would not make sense to bring him back. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

There is only so many players who want to play consistently that you can keep happy and I'm assuming Boga would want that too. Plus, Lampard probably doesn't think Boga suits what he wants.

Also for years, we have always complained about we do not show enough faith in young players but now that the club are seemingly doing that with Pulisic, CHO, Ziyech, Werner etc as our wide options, people want more players to be signed. 

And not sure if people realize this but we are pretty bloated in midfield and the attacking areas, excluding Willian and Pedro. We need to sell a few players and streamline the squad, before even thinking of buying more players.

Tbh only Pulisic, CHO and Ziyech are good enough to be wingers in the long run. Just because Mount can play there, doesnt mean he is a player you need out wide in key moments. He is better as CAM. 

Pulisic and CHO seem to struggle with injuries which leaves us without any pacy winger. If Werner signs, that would be alternative, but he is a striker. 

So its clear we need one more winger there. Benrahma is simply not good enough. He isnt experienced enough to guide you in key moments nor has potential to improve. Its just shortsighted to pick him over someone like Boga who has the tools to nail down that LW spot. Pulisic nor CHO have shown that they are good enough. If we had someone like Hazard, Benrahma as backup would be fine, but we dont have a proven LW yet. Boga wouldnt come here only as rotation but also as competition.

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Pulisic and CHO have tremendous potential. One was paid 65m euros and the other after giant club like Bayern tried hard to buy him got big contract here. So our club have big expectations from them. We decided not to go for Sancho because of them and you think we would put Boga ahead? Even if Boga is better than them (he is not) because of this reasons it would not make sense to bring him back. 


How do you come to the conclusion that CHO is better than Boga?

The only thing Pulisic is better than Boga is crossing and maybe stamina. Puli is a great crosser, I will give him that. Apart from that, based on this seasons Performances, I do not see something else where Puli is better at. Boga is physically stronger, way better dribbler (best dribbler in Serie A and stats prove that too), better at shooting (especially long distance shots) and he delivered against all the big teams including Juventus and Inter Milan. Also, Boga solved his injury problems and Pulisic is injured all the time. Boga also improved is defensive movement big time.

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5 hours ago, killer1257 said:


 

 


How do you come to the conclusion that CHO is better than Boga?

The only thing Pulisic is better than Boga is crossing and maybe stamina. Puli is a great crosser, I will give him that. Apart from that, based on this seasons Performances, I do not see something else where Puli is better at. Boga is physically stronger, way better dribbler (best dribbler in Serie A and stats prove that too), better at shooting (especially long distance shots) and he delivered against all the big teams including Juventus and Inter Milan. Also, Boga solved his injury problems and Pulisic is injured all the time. Boga also improved is defensive movement big time.

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Find a club willing to spend more than 30m for Boga I dare you. Some spend 58m on Pulisic. 

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9 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Tbh only Pulisic, CHO and Ziyech are good enough to be wingers in the long run. Just because Mount can play there, doesnt mean he is a player you need out wide in key moments. He is better as CAM. 

Ironically, some of Mount's better performances have come when he has played out wide.

9 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Pulisic and CHO seem to struggle with injuries which leaves us without any pacy winger. If Werner signs, that would be alternative, but he is a striker. 

If people want to be so quick in claiming Pulisic and CHO are injury prone for us, then I can't do anything. If you take that out of the equation, then we have two perfect wide players that the club have put their faith in.

Also, people need to decide "what" they want Werner "to be". One minute, people say he's a striker and the next a wide player.

9 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

So its clear we need one more winger there. Benrahma is simply not good enough. He isnt experienced enough to guide you in key moments nor has potential to improve. Its just shortsighted to pick him over someone like Boga who has the tools to nail down that LW spot. Pulisic nor CHO have shown that they are good enough. If we had someone like Hazard, Benrahma as backup would be fine, but we dont have a proven LW yet. Boga wouldnt come here only as rotation but also as competition.

Benrahma would indeed be an underwhelming signing. That we all can agree on. But as I said, there is only so many players who want to play every week that you can keep happy. Sure, Boga would provide competition but if someone else is playing well, would you even drop that player? 

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9 hours ago, killer1257 said:

How do you come to the conclusion that CHO is better than Boga?

The only thing Pulisic is better than Boga is crossing and maybe stamina. Puli is a great crosser, I will give him that. Apart from that, based on this seasons Performances, I do not see something else where Puli is better at. Boga is physically stronger, way better dribbler (best dribbler in Serie A and stats prove that too), better at shooting (especially long distance shots) and he delivered against all the big teams including Juventus and Inter Milan. Also, Boga solved his injury problems and Pulisic is injured all the time. Boga also improved is defensive movement big time.

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I can't say much about Boga because I have not watched much of Sassuolo but even at a cheap price, perhaps it is somewhat telling that none of the other big clubs are even lining up to sign him. 

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Find a club willing to spend more than 30m for Boga I dare you. Some spend 58m on Pulisic. 
I would not even say that is an argument. Clubs paid million for Morata too and he is a shitty player. You have to pay for Pulisic more because of Marketing reasons. You get also some American fans with it too. Boga is born in france but plays for Cote d' Ivoire. Sadly nowhere near as marketable.


KDB left Chelsea for 30 mio. too and he became the best midfielder in the World Top. Salah was bought for 40 mio. Euros and he was way better than Pulisic.

Give me some real arguments in what specific areas you see Pulisic in front of Boga. Than I would happily discuss with you more.

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I can't say much about Boga because I have not watched much of Sassuolo but even at a cheap price, perhaps it is somewhat telling that none of the other big clubs are even lining up to sign him. 

 

I can't say much about Boga because I have not watched much of Sassuolo but even at a cheap price, perhaps it is somewhat telling that none of the other big clubs are even lining up to sign him. 

 

What do you mean no big club is interested?

Napoli, Inter, Roma and now Juventus are reported to want him. Boga's agent has confirmed many of those reports. Boga himself said he is flattered by their interest and specifically named Clubs like Inter, Napoli and Juventus. Are those not big Clubs?

It is not like Boga is a no name in Italy. He is just a no name in the eyes of most Chelsea and PL fans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

What do you mean no big club is interested?

Napoli, Inter, Roma and now Juventus are reported to want him. Boga's agent has confirmed many of those reports. Boga himself said he is flattered by their interest and specifically named Clubs like Inter, Napoli and Juventus. Are those not big Clubs?

It is not like Boga is a no name in Italy. He is just a no name in the eyes of most Chelsea and PL fans.

Just because those clubs have been mentioned in the news, it doesn't mean the stories are true. 

And for the sake of argument, only Juventus out of those four are a genuine big club at this point. Inter are seemingly on their way up again under Conte while Roma and Napoli are like Tier-B clubs at the moment. Also, if he is as good as you're making him out to be, then why haven't we heard of clubs outside Italy being interested in him? Why have not we see say Liverpool, Man City for example being interested, especially when it doesn't seem like Boga will cost much to sign? 

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16 minutes ago, Jason said:

Just because those clubs have been mentioned in the news, it doesn't mean the stories are true. 

And for the sake of argument, only Juventus out of those four are a genuine big club at this point. Inter are seemingly on their way up again under Conte while Roma and Napoli are like Tier-B clubs at the moment. Also, if he is as good as you're making him out to be, then why haven't we heard of clubs outside Italy being interested in him? Why have not we see say Liverpool, Man City for example being interested, especially when it doesn't seem like Boga will cost much to sign? 

 

3 hours ago, Jason said:

I can't say much about Boga because I have not watched much of Sassuolo but even at a cheap price, perhaps it is somewhat telling that none of the other big clubs are even lining up to sign him. 

Well I guess we can say that about loads of players. Why did no one try to sign Ziyech apart from us especially the deal we got him for? Aubameyang is world class striker with one year left on his contract. Why has no one put a bid in for him yet? In the end of the day, Boga has been a standout player in Serie A. The interest in him will be genuine. He is the real deal and getting better. Just because a club doesn't show interest don't mean the quality aren't there but as Killer said, big clubs are being linked with Boga. The interest from Napoli is genuine. More will follow too. Like I say this season he has been outstanding.

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20 minutes ago, Stats said:

Why did no one try to sign Ziyech apart from us especially the deal we got him for?

As much as the Ziyech signing is exciting on paper, nothing has been proven yet. We'll see next season whether we actually got a bargain or that other clubs were right to stay away from him.

20 minutes ago, Stats said:

Aubameyang is world class striker with one year left on his contract. Why has no one put a bid in for him yet?

His age? His playing style? His wage demands? Unless you're at a club desperate for short term success, Aubameyang will have no resale value whatsoever. Plus, we are living in a pandemic situation where clubs are like broke financially.

Feel free to name names on this one but how many players from Italy have gone on to succeed in other leagues in recent years? Icardi is maybe one but he is at PSG and it's Ligue 1. Alonso maybe to an extent Jorginho is okay-ish I guess. There seems to have been more failures than successes - e.g. Immobile being an example of the former and we have a bunch of very average ones ourselves - maybe that is why clubs are reluctant to buy players from Italy and why we often see players move within clubs in Italy.

And have people considered that maybe Boga just doesn't suit what Lampard wants? As much as he has improved, he is not at the level where you must absolutely get him and then tailor your tactics to fit him in, like say Messi or Ronaldo. 

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Just because those clubs have been mentioned in the news, it doesn't mean the stories are true. 
And for the sake of argument, only Juventus out of those four are a genuine big club at this point. Inter are seemingly on their way up again under Conte while Roma and Napoli are like Tier-B clubs at the moment. Also, if he is as good as you're making him out to be, then why haven't we heard of clubs outside Italy being interested in him? Why have not we see say Liverpool, Man City for example being interested, especially when it doesn't seem like Boga will cost much to sign? 
Okay, so reports say that Boga is wanted by Napoli, Inter, Juventus and Roma. Boga's agent confirms their interest in several interviews, Boga himself said that he is flattered by their interest of all those mentioned clubs.Cristiano Giuntoli, Sporting Director of Napoli, said that he would be nice for Napoli and other clubs.
So let me get this straight. The media meports are false, Boga's agent and Boga himselfs words are false and Napoli's directors words are false too? This is a whole new level of conspiracy .

Regardless where Napoli are right now. Their greatest Player is Maradona and one of our legends is even close to his level of greatness. But okay, lets say Napoli are not a big club now like you just mentioned. Chelsea are not a big club either with that logic. Karl Heinz Rummenigge said yesterday that RB Leipzig is a bigger team than Chelsea and Werner made a step backwards. He should have gone to big Clubs like Liverpool or City or two the big Clubs in spain. That is what he said yesterday about Werner going to Chelsea and he is right because he applied your same logic.

By the way, there are also reports that Barcelona already held talks with Sassuolo on Boga and BVB want him as Sancho replacement. But I know these reports are according to you false and even if true, only Barcelona is a big club in your eyes. So we have two big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus interested in Boga reported by fake media reports.

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Okay, so reports say that Boga is wanted by Napoli, Inter, Juventus and Roma. Boga's agent confirms their interest in several interviews, Boga himself said that he is flattered by their interest of all those mentioned clubs.Cristiano Giuntoli, Sporting Director of Napoli, said that he would be nice for Napoli and other clubs.
So let me get this straight. The media meports are false, Boga's agent and Boga himselfs words are false and Napoli's directors words are false too? This is a whole new level of conspiracy .

Regardless where Napoli are right now. Their greatest Player is Maradona and one of our legends is even close to his level of greatness. But okay, lets say Napoli are not a big club now like you just mentioned. Chelsea are not a big club either with that logic. Karl Heinz Rummenigge said yesterday that RB Leipzig is a bigger team than Chelsea and Werner made a step backwards. He should have gone to big Clubs like Liverpool or City or two the big Clubs in spain. That is what he said yesterday about Werner going to Chelsea and he is right because he applied your same logic.

By the way, there are also reports that Barcelona already held talks with Sassuolo on Boga and BVB want him as Sancho replacement. But I know these reports are according to you false and even if true, only Barcelona is a big club in your eyes. So we have two big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus interested in Boga reported by fake media reports.

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I never said those stories are 10000% not true. All I said or implied was they could be not true at all. Don't tell me you believe every single transfer stories out there?

Yes, Maradona is Napoli's greatest player but are you really telling that they are a big club, on and off the field like Juventus, Bayern or even us? They might be a well known club but they are definitely not on the same level. We might not be at City's, Liverpool's etc level right now but even you will find it hard to deny that we have more room to improve and will be better than the likes of Napoli in the long run. And how many trophies have we won in the last 10-15 years and how many clubs like Napoli have won? 

We can go over this till the cows come home but the bottom line is, the club are unlikely gonna sign Boga... :chai:

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I never said those stories are 10000% not true. All I said or implied was they could be not true at all. Don't tell me you believe every single transfer stories out there?
Yes, Maradona is Napoli's greatest player but are you really telling that they are a big club, on and off the field like Juventus, Bayern or even us? They might be a well known club but they are definitely not on the same level. We might not be at City's, Liverpool's etc level right now but even you will find it hard to deny that we have more room to improve and will be better than the likes of Napoli in the long run. And how many trophies have we won in the last 10-15 years and how many clubs like Napoli have won? 
We can go over this till the cows come home but the bottom line is, the club are unlikely gonna sign Boga... :chai:


I also consider Arsenal and Spurs to be top clubs and I do not see them winning anything in the long run too and I do not remember them winning anything extraordinary in the last 10 years either.
I still consider them big clubs.

We will see how Boga progresses. As long as he stays injury free, he will become a big player. It is not his fault that Chelsea ans many of their fans do not rate him. I remember a time when people thought KDB was not as good as some people said he is. They probably look stupid now

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

We will see how Boga progresses. As long as he stays injury free, he will become a big player. It is not his fault that Chelsea ans many of their fans do not rate him.

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