Mustafa 885 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is he even linked with us? Or is this just wishful thinking??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Maybe. High press, AM with more defensive duty and all, but it can work if Hazard alternates roles without the ball. The system is fluid enough to accommodate Reus.Apart from Hazard, I just feel that the other wingers and attacking midfielders flatter to deceive one time too many times. The difference in quality between him and them is staggering sometimes, they're not on his wavelength.Maybe absence of Costa made it more apparent, but still I want us to have another world class performer in those positions behind the striker. Quite right although I'd say that we need two upgrades, not one.Willian, Schurrle, and especially Oscar, have their backers; I might almost say their 'believers'. This is unsurprising; they are good players in possession and they make big contributions to Jose's ball recovery structure. The problem is that 'good' in possession is no longer good enough. We have grown and the level at which we must perform has grown with it. Great is the new good at Chelsea.In my opinion Reus is great. It may be that we can't get this particular player but, whether we develop our own or buy them in, we need to trade in our good AMs for outstanding ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Is he even linked with us? Or is this just wishful thinking??? Very, very, very, wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I wish he was left foot bed. There are very few top class left footed wingers.Bale, Di Maria, Robben. That's it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epikur 34 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Willian and Schurrle are both not up to it in this Chelsea side. They'd be good for an Arsenal or Liverpool but I think they're depth at best. Reus would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChelseaDane 48 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Willian and Schurrle are both not up to it in this Chelsea side. They'd be good for an Arsenal or Liverpool but I think they're depth at best. Reus would be perfect.What? Totally disagree. IMO they are boy class, and I love 'em both. Reus would be class, but not a chance in the world he'll leave Germany. He is going to Bayern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Willian and Schurrle are both not up to it in this Chelsea side. They'd be good for an Arsenal or Liverpool but I think they're depth at best. Reus would be perfect.Schurrle is a good winger with pace, good runs, crosses and can finish. Cesc loves to play with players like him. Salah has the same skillset and is better in dribbling but in terms of strength, not at the EPL level yet. Salah should work out too, like Schurrle did last year. Both are good to be our counter attacking weapons. Willian is good/reasonable at RW but is better at the #10 position where Oscar plays now, Willian played for Shaktar mainly as their number ten and was superb, attacking wise. I would like to see Willian start some games as #10 with Hazard an Schurrle/Salah as the wingers, like last year against Stoke at home where he was the Motm. Oscar is the true weak link in our team IMO, he is ok against small sides but in big games he is average. Yes, ok against Arsenal he was ok in helping the defence. But is that the only thing he can offer? With Cesc we already have a player like Oscar, but Cesc is much and much better. Oscar should be benched in big games and only play against small sides. If we really can get Reus, Oscar should be sold. With the 6 attacking mids above mentioned, this would be superb: Costa Hazard-Willian-Reus Matic Cesc In bigger games we could do this: CostaHazard Cesc Reus/Willian Matic Ramires/Khedira (if he comes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I'm 99% sure he will go to Bayernso you're telling me there's a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Reus would be class, but not a chance in the world he'll leave Germany. He is going to Bayern!He is one of my faw players, but if he goes to bayern he can go fuck himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 He is one of my faw players, but if he goes to bayern he can go fuck himself.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epikur 34 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Schurrle is a good winger with pace, good runs, crosses and can finish. Cesc loves to play with players like him. Salah has the same skillset and is better in dribbling but in terms of strength, not at the EPL level yet. Salah should work out too, like Schurrle did last year. Both are good to be our counter attacking weapons.Willian is good/reasonable at RW but is better at the #10 position where Oscar plays now, Willian played for Shaktar mainly as their number ten and was superb, attacking wise. I would like to see Willian start some games as #10 with Hazard an Schurrle/Salah as the wingers, like last year against Stoke at home where he was the Motm.Oscar is the true weak link in our team IMO, he is ok against small sides but in big games he is average. Yes, ok against Arsenal he was ok in helping the defence. But is that the only thing he can offer? With Cesc we already have a player like Oscar, but Cesc is much and much better. Oscar should be benched in big games and only play against small sides. If we really can get Reus, Oscar should be sold.With the 6 attacking mids above mentioned, this would be superb:CostaHazard-Willian-ReusMatic CescIn bigger games we could do this:CostaHazard Cesc Reus/WillianMatic Ramires/Khedira (if he comes)Oscar the weak link? Oscar has been MOTM (or very close to) three out of the past five PL games and is finding some great form. I feel his form will only get better as the season progesses and the more he works with Fabregas. My only problem with Oscar is he has been lacking that creativity that Mata gave us in the final third, but it's pretty clear Mourinho wants him to work on his defensive game before he pushes forward and starts kicking screamers. Not only that Oscar is 23 whereas Willian is is 26. Oscar has a much higher ceiling and in three years time he will be double the player Willian is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Oscar the weak link? Oscar has been MOTM (or very close to) three out of the past five PL games and is finding some great form. I feel his form will only get better as the season progesses and the more he works with Fabregas. My only problem with Oscar is he has been lacking that creativity that Mata gave us in the final third, but it's pretty clear Mourinho wants him to work on his defensive game before he pushes forward and starts kicking screamers. Not only that Oscar is 23 whereas Willian is is 26. Oscar has a much higher ceiling and in three years time he will be double the player Willian is now.I was more talking about our strongest line up facing strong sides in Europe. In smaller games I like Oscar too but in big games I don't think Oscar and Cesc should start together. Ramires (or another great b2b) is a must and so is Cesc. I don't want to speak about potential because that is all speculation, you never know how a player will develop. In this moment Willian is better than Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 so you're telling me there's a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Schurrle and Mikel for Reus. Yes I know. Wishful thinking.How good is Reus making runs behind the lines compared to Schurrle? I am aware that they both provide speed and workrate whilst Reus is the more technical and clinical one. But Schurrle can make those delightful runs which, unfortunately, often leads to having the ball in the stands.And more importantly, how good is he playing out of position on the right wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Schurrle and Mikel for Reus. Yes I know. Wishful thinking.How good is Reus making runs behind the lines compared to Schurrle? I am aware that they both provide speed and workrate whilst Reus is the more technical and clinical one. But Schurrle can make those delightful runs which, unfortunately, often leads to having the ball in the stands.And more importantly, how good is he playing out of position on the right wing?He can play anywhere. At Gladbach he was playing right wing. When Herrmann came in, he started to drift left and in the middle. I think if comes, im gonna scream my balls, then I'd think that rotating him with Hazard and Oscar, will do. Draxler will come tho., if we are going for a German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneChan95 225 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Schurrle and Mikel for Reus. Yes I know. Wishful thinking.How good is Reus making runs behind the lines compared to Schurrle? I am aware that they both provide speed and workrate whilst Reus is the more technical and clinical one. But Schurrle can make those delightful runs which, unfortunately, often leads to having the ball in the stands.And more importantly, how good is he playing out of position on the right wing?Honestly I'd rather keep Schurrle and trade away Willian or Salah. Schurrle is going through a bad patch but he isn't incapable of delivering. He's our only winger who is willing to constantly take risks in the final third (although he is going way overboard with the volume of unrealistic shots). He is also willing to be a super sub and we saw how effective he was for Germany in that role. Having someone like him is really crucial in the long run and provides more attacking options. Reus is a dream. a luxury player but having another serious threat on the RW would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Honestly I'd rather keep Schurrle and trade away Willian or Salah. Schurrle is going through a bad patch but he isn't incapable of delivering. He's our only winger who is willing to constantly take risks in the final third (although he is going way overboard with the volume of unrealistic shots). He is also willing to be a super sub and we saw how effective he was for Germany in that role. Having someone like him is really crucial in the long run and provides more attacking options. Reus is a dream. a luxury player but having another serious threat on the RW would be welcome. I kind of agree with that and that's the reason I was asking about Reus' ability to make similar effort to Schurrle on the pitch. So if we wanted to have Reus, it would have to be Oscar who we had to sacrifice, because Willian isn't going anywhere. Costa Hazard Reus Willian Matic Cesc Would allow Willian play his favoured #10 role and he could become Di Maria-type player in the midfield for us. But I am not completely done with Oscar and I want to see how the lad develops in the future because the talent and the potential is there. Oscar + 15M for Reus and a buy-back clause for Oscar later on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I kind of agree with that and that's the reason I was asking about Reus' ability to make similar effort to Schurrle on the pitch. So if we wanted to have Reus, it would have to be Oscar who we had to sacrifice, because Willian isn't going anywhere. Costa Hazard Reus Willian Matic Cesc Would allow Willian play his favoured #10 role and he could become Di Maria-type player in the midfield for us. But I am not completely done with Oscar and I want to see how the lad develops in the future because the talent and the potential is there. Oscar + 15M for Reus and a buy-back clause for Oscar later on? You do know Reus is available for £20m this summer right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I kind of agree with that and that's the reason I was asking about Reus' ability to make similar effort to Schurrle on the pitch. So if we wanted to have Reus, it would have to be Oscar who we had to sacrifice, because Willian isn't going anywhere. Costa Hazard Reus Willian Matic Cesc Would allow Willian play his favoured #10 role and he could become Di Maria-type player in the midfield for us. But I am not completely done with Oscar and I want to see how the lad develops in the future because the talent and the potential is there. Oscar + 15M for Reus and a buy-back clause for Oscar later on? If it comes to that, I'll rather sell willian. Oscar is still young and has a lot of development to go.I don't think we can get reus, bayern look desperate for him because of Ribery injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'm 99% sure he will go to Bayern Reus says he is not set for Bayern Munich movehttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/31/borussia-dortmund-reus-bayern-munich-move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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