Closed Stoke City 0-4 Chelsea

[Muzchap 8,966]

I might be old. I might be biased. But i have seen a lot of football. The amount of danger he gives + the amount he delivers in games (see stats) is huge. Young ones: focus and be objective. He did well. Period.

Wow I said he had an average game, which I just upgraded to good!

My opinion, like it or not, was that he gave the ball away far too much - when receiving passes - first touch, balance, awareness and ability to receive under pressure are all things he needs to learn...

He's not Messi - not even close, but is a great young prospect, who will get better and better.

I'm just being objective about his performance - please don't confuse with critical!

[bushman 2,043]

Frankie is just one. Therefore, any decent fan will support him for the rest of this season.

He will be greatly missed, I feel.

[Kojo 4,676]

lol Marin? wtf has Marin done yet in a Chelsea shirt for you to even bring him up

anyways, hazard had very good moments and bad moments as well, he lost possession numerous times but so did Lamps, in the beginning 25-30 minutes other than Luiz everyone was shockingly bad, so I guess if we're going to be overly critical of those things after a 4-0 win then Luiz is MOTM and quite easily

I think just cause we won handsomely today, an attacker deserves MOTM and even though he had some poor play, attacking wise i think he made the biggest contributions so hazard eeks it out for me over Lamps

You're looking at my post wrong, if you're going to just praise Hazard for some good runs and getting involved now and then, then where is the support for Marin?, because when he has played he's done that, he's never necessarily played bad. But he has hardly had any game time. Pre season he looked the boss, against QPR he played well also.

Lampard however ran the game, and had Begovic not of been on steroids he would of easily gotten man of the match.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

You're looking at my post wrong, if you're going to just praise Hazard for some good runs and getting involved now and then, then where is the support for Marin?, because when he has played he's done that, he's never necessarily played bad. But he has hardly had any game time. Pre season he looked the boss, against QPR he played well also.

Lampard however ran the game, and had Begovic not of been on steroids he would of easily gotten man of the match.

Again, I have no idea how you can even bring up Marin. Hazard if is getting unfair love from others, he's at least earned a bit of that. Marin has done jack shit so far. You think instead of Lamps it was Torres today missing those chances he would have still had a shot at MOTM? You gotta earn that shit.

[DONI. 1,291]

Great day,Chelsea win,JT and Cech are back and Hazard scores a super goal

[Muzchap 8,966]

Again, I have no idea how you can even bring up Marin. Hazard if is getting unfair love from others, he's at least earned a bit of that. Marin has done jack shit so far. You think instead of Lamps it was Torres today missing those chances he would have still had a shot at MOTM? You gotta earn that shit.

I don't think anybody is giving Hazard 'unfair love'

All I and some others have said is that he lost the ball a few too many times? But hey, if we cannot be objective about our players it wouldn't be a forum right? Because its starting to feel like a Hazard Facebook page - nobody is immune from objective, rational opinions...

[Kojo 4,676]

Again, I have no idea how you can even bring up Marin. Hazard if is getting unfair love from others, he's at least earned a bit of that. Marin has done jack shit so far. You think instead of Lamps it was Torres today missing those chances he would have still had a shot at MOTM? You gotta earn that shit.

Oh my god are you blind mate?, nevermind.

[zolayes 14,489]

This is what Pulis said -

The referee gives a penalty at 1-0 and it was offside, it was a good call

What happened there? The ref gave a pen but the linesman flagged an offside?

maybe Pullis was annoyed the woman got it spot on. She obviously knew the offside rule better than he did

[Corner 456]

I don't think anybody is giving Hazard 'unfair love'

All I and some others have said is that he lost the ball a few too many times? But hey, if we cannot be objective about our players it wouldn't be a forum right? Because its starting to feel like a Hazard Facebook page - nobody is immune from objective, rational opinions...

While I actually think Hazard had a great game today, I'm gonna give this comment a like because that last sentence is pure good Muzchap.

Also, Hazard does need to learn when to take a touch, when to dribble and when not to etc., but that will come as gains more experience in the Premiership. What we needed from him most today was to be dangerous in and around the box and the opposition's half and I thought he did that splendidly.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Hazard was beast. Cant believe we have such unbalanced results, unbelievable. Very nice result anyway

[The only place to be 11,313]

The only reason I don't think Lamps deserves MOTM is the same reason I don't think he deserved it against Everton - for the first half-hour we were pretty awful and kept losing the ball from midfield. Luis did a great job marshalling the defence and made some Terry-esque front post clearances. He was the one playing it out of defence with a sense of calm.

Frank worked his socks off though and it was good to see him score his goal. I just don't know if we can be so loose in the first 30 minutes of games.

[DDA 9,693]

I'm currently on a 12 hour possession shift on the London Underground railways. The day could not get any worse, my boss is a complete asshole and just when I think it's time to top myself on my lunch break I check to see Chels. 4-0 against Stoke away is a great result and suddenly I'm not feeling so bad anymore. Fuck you Boss you can't break me now!

[Milan 17,865]

maybe Pullis was annoyed the woman got it spot on. She obviously knew the offside rule better than he did

The linesman wasn't linesman but lineswoman?

[zolayes 14,489]

The linesman wasn't linesman but lineswoman?

yes and the girl had the balls to call it right

[TrippingStep 336]

BTW I agree with those critics on Hazard.

For me he played a better match against Swansea.

Laudrup even changed a player at half time for a more defensive one to double on him as he was running around them in the first 30 minutes. There was often a player with the task to follow him nearly everywhere in the swansea team.

[Leif 6,006]

I'm not sure which particular moments made me think this, but this game seemed to bring out more emotion (happiness) and togetherness as a group of friends and not just fellow professional footballers from our players when compared to other wins. I thought that Hazard, Azpi etc. would take at least a season to start looking comfortable around everyone else as that's what happens with City & PSG and their shopping sprees, but yeah, I was pleasantly surprised to see such togetherness.

This season has been incredibly rough since we've lost out on sooo many trophies, but it looks like we're going to have something very special soon.

[Stingray 9,441]

Wow I said he had an average game, which I just upgraded to good!

My opinion, like it or not, was that he gave the ball away far too much - when receiving passes - first touch, balance, awareness and ability to receive under pressure are all things he needs to learn...

He's not Messi - not even close, but is a great young prospect, who will get better and better.

I'm just being objective about his performance - please don't confuse with critical!

Do you dare to say he performs as a young prospect? I will ask just this ONE question?

Also, If yes: how do you quallify the performances of the rest of the team then? Is he 'young prospect wise' (which he is purely based on age') someone who is carrying the team somewhat? If yes, don't be to harsh, Muzchap. What young prospect aged 21 does what Hazard does now? He is doing great and you might feel your criticsm is justified, but its a little out of place after this game. He knows there are areas to be enhanced for sure. Is Lamps perfect? Was Drogba absent some games? Even Zola, some had a go when playing not so well. Today, I have seen a 21 year old fight against a very physical, hard side. He did really well.

Relax :-). We have a team filled with good players. Think: new manager with. Visio, extra striker(s), pivot, solve the leadership issue next year. These items are much more debatable than Hazards errors (or even Oscars ..... Or Marins when he will start to play , Muzchap - i could quote Bremens forum on how they see his youth errors there)

Off to the bong. Peace!

[TrippingStep 336]

The only reason I don't think Lamps deserves MOTM is the same reason I don't think he deserved it against Everton - for the first half-hour we were pretty awful and kept losing the ball from midfield. Luis did a great job marshalling the defence and made some Terry-esque front post clearances. He was the one playing it out of defence with a sense of calm.

Frank worked his socks off though and it was good to see him score his goal. I just don't know if we can be so loose in the first 30 minutes of games.

That's why I gave Luiz the motm award on this forum.

He made a lot of interceptions, cutting as you say in the front post, one of his best defensive play I've seen from him this season.