The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Promise? we are talking about a 29 year old, not a teenager just out of the academy.Torres is just crap, the fact he is getting praised to the hilt for the WHL performance is the problem, if Torres was at his best, this would have been one of his quieter performances and he would have actually got criticized for missing a 1 on 1 not praised for getting in that position in the first place.Ba was an asset to us Sunday because he gave us another option to go route 1, his presence should have won a penalty straight away then assisted a goal, then caused Ruddy to panic which luckily the defender tracked behind him to cover.Eto'o even if not scoring is good for keeping play going if nothing else, the amount of turnovers from him in a game is very low, compared to Torres who's turnover count in games last season entered the early 30's.I atleast feel we actually have 11 men when Ba and Eto'o are playing, not the same feeling i get with Torres. None of them are a long term solution but personally Torres is my numero tres out of the forwards we have.Whatever you say :/Ba was not an asset? Eto'o keep playing going? They are both terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 my point was that without the cheating there wouldn't have been an assist to begin with.We can't have it both ways: bash the likes of Suarez and then praise when our players get away with it.biting a player, delibrately diving , calling a person racist names is equivalent to getting one decision?so are norwich defenders cheats when ba dint get the penalty? or is chicha a cheat for not saying that he was offside when he scored the winner against us in 3-2 defeat.what happened on saturday is a part and parcel of the game. some "decisions" go your way, others dont. but getting a decision is one thing and doing things like suarez does is completely different. how can you even compare these two things? i mean what did ba "get away with"? one favourable decision is very different when compared to simulating, and thats what suarez does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 well agree to disagree.BTW, blatant handball by Ba before the assist. His first touch looked fantastic at first, but he actually used his arm to control the football. Without the first touch, the assist was not that great.Blatant handball? No, it wasn't. It was an accidental one. He controlled Lampard's pass with his right foot and as he did that, the ball just bounced off his right hand. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Whatever you say :/Ba was not an asset? Eto'o keep playing going? They are both terribleAnd Torres isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yes he is, they are all terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kish9 50 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sometimes i don't understand any of the hype about strikers on this forum, yes Ba played well against Norwich but what if we were attacking the other way? So Ruddy wouldn't have had sun in his eyes. Would we still have played all the long balls? No. Even if we had played long balls he would have managed to catch all the long balls and Ba would not have a sniff at all. The best chance to score came early in the second half and instead of us going 2-0 and killing of the game Ba missed from 2 yards out. Even Mikel could have scored that FFS! And as soon as the long balls stopped Ba was nowhere to be seen and didn't do anything that came close to a chance for us. Yes he is a good squad player but nothing more. 2 goals in 16 league games is dismal and even when he is on the pitch he cant pull defenders away for our AMs like Etoo or even Torres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohitmohanihm 39 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is it just me or does every striker we buy stop scoring soon after the transfer? Soul Caliber X and The_Flash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kish9 50 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is it just me or does every striker we buy stop scoring soon after the transfer? Our team is built around the midfield, they score more goals than the strikers whereas strikers score more goals than the midfield with pretty much every other team rohitmohanihm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 STRIKERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SCORE rohitmohanihm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kish9 50 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 STRIKERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SCORE Sorry that does not apply to CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 biting a player, delibrately diving , calling a person racist names is equivalent to getting one decision?so are norwich defenders cheats when ba dint get the penalty? or is chicha a cheat for not saying that he was offside when he scored the winner against us in 3-2 defeat.what happened on saturday is a part and parcel of the game. some "decisions" go your way, others dont. but getting a decision is one thing and doing things like suarez does is completely different. how can you even compare these two things? i mean what did ba "get away with"? one favourable decision is very different when compared to simulating, and thats what suarez does. I was just answering your so what? I'm clearly saying his performance on that game was not good. Because the only real contribution he made was by cheating. And he missed clear opportunities to score which could've cost us the game.Yeah Terry never racially abused anyone... did not lose England's captaincy over it... And without the cultural/language barrier that people here tend to forget. PK you mean one the of the many of Ba dives?! Yeah that's what I meant about going to the ground all the time.Sorry for bring up Suarez; I don't think one can put Suarez and Ba in the same sentence; one of them knows how to play football.Blatant handball? No, it wasn't. It was an accidental one. He controlled Lampard's pass with his right foot and as he did that, the ball just bounced off his right hand.It was a bad first touch and he used his arm to correct it. If you think otherwise, I can offer you this little bit of land on the moon for a very reasonable price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohitmohanihm 39 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I guess thats what Mourinho ment when he said its one thing to play for Everton and another to play for Chelsea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sorry that does not apply to CFCIt used to and should again its embarrassing, Ba and Torres were bad enough but Eto'o is **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohitmohanihm 39 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I can understand Etoo having problems .. he has been chilling in Russia for some time now.. so i guess we must give him some time to find his favourite shooting boots.. .. even though out of the 3 i have to say i prefer El Zorro than the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I was just answering your so what? I'm clearly saying his performance on that game was not good. Because the only real contribution he made was by cheating. And he missed clear opportunities to score which could've cost us the game.Yeah Terry never racially abused anyone... did not lose England's captaincy over it... And without the cultural/language barrier that people here tend to forget. PK you mean one the of the many of Ba dives?! Yeah that's what I meant about going to the ground all the time.Sorry for bring up Suarez; I don't think one can put Suarez and Ba in the same sentence; one of them knows how to play football.It was a bad first touch and he used his arm to correct it. If you think otherwise, I can offer you this little bit of land on the moon for a very reasonable price...It wasn't the greatest of first touch but not a bad one like you're making it out to be. He got the ball decent/good enough and it bounced off his hand as he controlled the ball. If you can't even see the incident (objectively), perhaps a trip to the specsavers will help you with that.. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Everyone needs specsavers if anyone thinks the strikers are good, they are woeful, wish we had a scoring striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohitmohanihm 39 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Everyone needs sow savers if anyone thinks the strikers are good, they are woeful, wish we had a scoring striker We do and he is still wearing blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Drogba didn't seem to have a problem with scoring as a Chelsea striker. I don't get the issue. The current ones just aren't performing well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kish9 50 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Drogba didn't seem to have a problem with scoring as a Chelsea striker. I don't get the issue. The current ones just aren't performing well enough.No doubt the current strike force aren't performing but tbh Drogba only score more than 12 goals 2 out of 8 seasons in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 No doubt the current strike force aren't performing but tbh Drogba only score more than 12 goals 2 out of 8 seasons in the leagueTrue and also Gudjohnsen, Hasselbaink before only scored okay amounts of goals per season. For the last decade Lamps has been our most consistent goal threat ending up topscorer of the club more often than not. In fact his conversion rate has been better than any striker he played with, no wonder he has scored more. Still even without a high scoring striker we always had a decent goal tally per season, cos we created enough chances and shared the goals around. When Drogba found a similarly consistent scoring streak we broke all sorts of goal records. But one has to say, Drogba's conversion was not perfect but better than any of his successor's + Drogba scored in big matches and Drogba could score from all sorts of positions. He also created a hell lot of chances. I would be ok, if we had 1 striker who would only score 12 important goals and always contributes to the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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