OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 What does that mean? Im sure Raul scored 17 goals in La Liga faster than Torres reached 17 goals, maybe we should sign him up? Your looking at his record as a whole, look at it more recently. You can look at any older players record, and if you look at it as a whole it'll probably be decent, but you'll see as they get older it decline, as has Villa's. He's not the player he was and he's not worth the money. Plenty of players games isn't about speed, but they still have to retire at some stage. Pace isn't the only thing that leaves you. Frank wasn't dependent on pace, but he's as you say " not the 20 goal a season MF" anymore.You then create one of the most conflicting statement I have ever read. "Does that mean Lampard and Cole have declined" Yes, yes it does. You then back up my point. "Maybe Lampards not the 20 goal a season MF but hes still good. Coles not as young but still the best or second best LB in the world." Lampards not near his prime, not anywhere near the level of second best player in the world that he was in 2006. Neither is Cole, quite possibly one of the finest Lb's we've have ever seen, certainly me anyhow. Could shut down a whole side of the pitch by himself, now is being caught out consistently, a la the Utd game. Coles still the best LB in the league, thats why we would be stupid let him go, but thats not to say he hasn't declined.Im not saying he won't score, but I'm saying we won't get a valuable return on our investment. He won't score for fun though, when he's posting stats like the above in La Liga you'd have to worry for him in the prem. The stats also show he has declined significantly.Chelsea aren't Arsenal, we don't sell our best players or in fact any good players. We keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyMailman 15 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 If his knees were normal he'd be paid 120k p/w just like the rest of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo810 5 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Chelsea aren't Arsenal, we don't sell our best players or in fact any good players. We keep them. Who mentioned selling him? And we don't keep them, we let them go for free even when they are worth a few million. Drogba for example. More than likely Frank and Ash.If his knees were normal he'd be paid 120k p/w just like the rest of themWhen you compare him to Torres, he's worth every penny of 120K. It's a shame about the risks involved though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola kinda blue 89 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 If his knees were normal he'd be paid 120k p/w just like the rest of themhe's hardly missed a game with his dodgy knees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyMailman 15 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 he's hardly missed a game with his dodgy kneesI know. I just think its funny that Chelsea will pay Hazard 170k p/w but won't pay up 90 or so for Ba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know. I just think its funny that Chelsea will pay Hazard 170k p/w but won't pay up 90 or so for BaHazard's on 110K p/w isn't he? Secondly, comparing a 27 year old with a dodgy knee (albeit a very good goalscorer) to a 21 year old potentinal Ballon D'or winner sought after by the whole world, is quite ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Hazard's on 110K p/w isn't he? Secondly, comparing a 27 year old with a dodgy knee (albeit a very good goalscorer) to a 21 year old potentinal Ballon D'or winner sought after by the whole world, is quite ridiculous.If Ba can score goals like he is for newcastle at the moment I think 90k is reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyMailman 15 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Hazard's on 110K p/w isn't he? Secondly, comparing a 27 year old with a dodgy knee (albeit a very good goalscorer) to a 21 year old potentinal Ballon D'or winner sought after by the whole world, is quite ridiculous.110k p/w sorry. Much more reasonable wages for a 21 yr old 'potential ballon d'or winner'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 To be honest guys i think its bullshit that Torres earns so much doing nothing while Ba can do much more and he is asking for 80-90k while Torres is earning like 175k. DA FUQ CHELSEA DAFUQ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola kinda blue 89 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know. I just think its funny that Chelsea will pay Hazard 170k p/w but won't pay up 90 or so for BaIts not his wages, its the 2 million or so his "advisors" (not even his agent) want thats the problem.We need to sit down with his actual agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who mentioned selling him? And we don't keep them, we let them go for free even when they are worth a few million. Drogba for example. More than likely Frank and Ash.When you compare him to Torres, he's worth every penny of 120K. It's a shame about the risks involved though.You said we don't get a valuable return on our investment so I thought you were hinting at potential resale value....... if your meaning Villa isn't worth the 12-15 million euros which Barca are reportedly considering letting him go for and won't live up to that fee then well how do I say this in a nice way, well I'm sure your a nice guy and all... but.... just a little bit off your head No point mentioning Torres now, hes sadly our best striker but worst outfield player..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 No way he will go with that His current contract is 40k week basic with 20k game fee, so normally 60k week.We offered 80k - he wants more 20k week increase, over £1 million a year pay-rise! Like WTF - what 'sane' person wouldn't snap that up!!!If he's too stupid to see the benefit and to be in a team challenging for trophies, then perhaps he ain't CFC material after all.That's not me on my high horse - just flabbergasted at some people's greed and idiocy, on top of the £1 million per year, he's also getting £2 million cash from Newcastle and no doubt a decent signing on bonus and millions in fees to his 'agents/family' - now if that ain't taking the piss don't know what is?Also, we need to remember, every professional player is insured, if he's uninsurable, then it's a massive, massive risk. As somebody else said this guy is one tackle away from a wheelchair... Can anyone hand on heart honestly say that isn't a possibility with Chelsea's history of strikers :( If he doesnt go with that then screw him.If I was incharge the only way Id sign Ba wouldnt be with an appearance based contract, considering his injury(ies).I mean just imagine if we'd sign him and go with Ba+Torres and after a few weeks Ba gets injured and away for 6 months. That would be devastating. There is a risk involved here and if we are gonna take the risk signing this guy we have to cover our ground so we dont just end up with another player on a high payroll whos not even on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 The risk associated with Ba and the fact Moses is going to ACON means we really should go after Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The risk associated with Ba and the fact Moses is going to ACON means we really should go after Villa.I understand the risk with his knee but hes got 2 straight seasons of football without it affecting him so surely (well I hope) he'd be alright if we got him. Villa though, sign him up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 WE'VE SIGNED DEMBA BA ON A THREE YEAR DEAL, WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSky Sports Sources @SSNSourcesSKY SOURCES: We understand that Demba Ba has agreed a three-year deal with Chelsea and will complete his move in the next 48 hours. #CFCJust checked, that account isn't verified, I'm not so happy now.. could be lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I wonder what number he'll wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Well, I hope he won´t flop just like injury prone Marin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 this is what i read on twitter...The @SSNSources isn't related to Sky Sports in anyway, No deal has been agreed for Demba Ba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yeah I edited my post saying it might be lies, fucking fake pages Cmon, hope the real Sky Sports page post something like that, would be great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola kinda blue 89 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yep, look at the links, its like a newsnow collection of "news" swept up from the netThey have the SSN marin not going on loan story and the suns Torres will accept being benched etcDont belive it for one second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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