28 dead, including 20 children, in school shooting

[Laylabelle 9,449]

Same lol....ahhh
.and surley if someone can fire a gun they can eat a Kinder egg without swolling the massive plastic domey thing in the middle..kids over here managed it just fine

[manpe 10,861]

  On 15/12/2012 at 11:09, Fulham Broadway said:

I think a lot must be -but its also the legislation thats totally warped in the US -like in Texas for example

http://www.texasgunlaws.org/

This is just amazing. You don't need to have any kind of license to buy a gun in Texas, only a valid state ID. Wow, just wow.

How many deaths in history have there been by children swallowing the surprise in kinder surprise? One perhaps, at most?

[Kojo 4,676]

This happens all the time when there are deaths with guns, they wont change the main law, as it was made legal to have your own gun.

Rewriting it would cause havoc, can't see them doing it to be honest.

[Kieran. 6,317]

  On 15/12/2012 at 17:08, Kojo said:

This happens all the time when there are deaths with guns, they wont change the main law, as it was made legal to have your own gun.

Rewriting it would cause havoc, can't see them doing it to be honest.

Because we're a spineless nation. No real direction, besides rich people worrying about how to keep their money.

[manpe 10,861]

Just saw a bit of Obama's speech on news. He's becoming increasingly better at that (no shock, he's had to make quite a few of those since becoming president), now he's even learned to wipe tears, not very convincingly though. He will get better though, he'll no doubt have a lot more practice in the next 4 years, he might even start singing lullabies with a trembling voice by 2015.

Tbh everything seems so fake about USA. Americans are great actors.

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

  On 15/12/2012 at 16:21, manpe said:

What? Why is Kinder Surprise illegal?

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While Kinder eggs have been available in Canada since 1975, the product has never been allowed into the US for several reasons.

The 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act contains a section highlighting that a confectionery product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States, unless the FDA issues a regulation that the non-nutritive object has functional value.^[5] Essentially, the 1938 Act bans “the sale of any candy that has imbedded in it a toy or trinket.” ^[6]

In 2012 the FDA re-issued their import alert stating “The imbedded non-nutritive objects in these confectionery products may pose a public health risk as the consumer may unknowingly choke on the object.” ^[7]

[Kieran. 6,317]

  On 15/12/2012 at 17:12, manpe said:

Just saw a bit of Obama's speech on news. He's becoming increasingly better at that (no shock, he's had to make quite a few of those since becoming president), now he's even learned to wipe tears, not very convincingly though. He will get better though, he'll no doubt have a lot more practice in the next 4 years, he might even start singing lullabies with a trembling voice by 2015.

Tbh everything seems so fake about USA. Americans are great actors.

The hypocrisy was sickening. When I saw it on the news, I told my mom that if he really felt like that, he wouldn't be dropping bombs on 6 different nations. Prick.

[Kojo 4,676]

  On 15/12/2012 at 17:12, Kieran. said:

Because we're a spineless nation. No real direction, besides rich people worrying about how to keep their money.

Just about almost every nation mate, but consider yourselves lucky, some nations are in the complete shit. You could even just look at Italy, everything in that nation is just about corrupt, hell even it's football.

[Liquidator 5,176]

Obama is still better than that idiot George Bush. How that idiot cowboy was running the most powerful country in the world is beyond me.

[manpe 10,861]

  On 15/12/2012 at 17:28, Liquidator said:

Obama is still better than that idiot George Bush. How that idiot cowboy was running the most powerful country in the world is beyond me.

Anybody can be the president of the USA, even a cowboy actor, you just have to be good at demagogy, populism and a yes man. If you grow a spine and start thinking for yourself, you will face a fate similar to John F. Kennedy (he wanted to withdraw from Vietnam). After him every single US president has been the ultimate puppet. Bush was an entertainer, an actor for television, a real life sitcom character.

[communicate 2,703]

  On 15/12/2012 at 17:08, Kojo said:

This happens all the time when there are deaths with guns, they wont change the main law, as it was made legal to have your own gun.

Rewriting it would cause havoc, can't see them doing it to be honest.

Like I said before, it is written in their constitution the right to bear firearm. it is going really difficult to outlaw gun in US

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

First of all i'll just state how depressing it is to see those young kids killed. My heart goes out to those families who lost the joy of their lives, and survivors that may be in shock after witnessing that traumatic event. In all honesty these shootings have become out of control, and im in fear of all the copycats out there.

-congresswoman (Gabby Giffords)

-One at the movie theater during Batman Premiere

-believe it was in wisconsin (not sure) that killed people in the temple

-one in a mall last week

- there was that one in Sweden

-and then this one.

far too many lives been lost.

im not in the mood to discuss the gun laws because frankly its something that i feel will never change. Most of these people that do these mindless acts are medically labeled as 'insane' and its worrying that how their not being treated before they commit these acts.

People wonder 'why?' 'whats the motive?' but unless you've been inside the heads of these people you and I will never understand.

[Backstreet09 499]

^THIS

[manpe 10,861]

The constitution was written at a time when guns weren't as widespread and dangerous as they are now. They used bullets far less lethal than contemporary ones, there were no machine guns. It was a time when people had to protect themselves from outside aggressors (they had just overcome their colonizers in a revolution), it was an unstable time when protection was necessary as proved by the subsequent civil war.

Times have changed since then, at least this part of the consitution is severely outdated and its effects have tragic consequences nowadays. If the fathers of the constitution were alive today, they would commit suicide if they learned how bad it's become. I don't doubt they had their best intentions when they wrote that, it's just that at that time people didn't have a clue what the world would become like more than 200 years later.

[Yeboii 1,844]

  On 15/12/2012 at 18:05, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

First of all i'll just state how depressing it is to see those young kids killed. My heart goes out to those families who lost the joy of their lives, and survivors that may be in shock after witnessing that traumatic event. In all honesty these shootings have become out of control, and im in fear of all the copycats out there.

-congresswoman (Gabby Giffords)

-One at the movie theater during Batman Premiere

-believe it was in wisconsin (not sure) that killed people in the temple

-one in a mall last week

- there was that one in Sweden

-and then this one.

far too many lives been lost.

im not in the mood to discuss the gun laws because frankly its something that i feel will never change. Most of these people that do these mindless acts are medically labeled as 'insane' and its worrying that how their not being treated before they commit these acts.

People wonder 'why?' 'whats the motive?' but unless you've been inside the heads of these people you and I will never understand.

It was in Norway.

[communicate 2,703]

  On 15/12/2012 at 18:05, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

First of all i'll just state how depressing it is to see those young kids killed. My heart goes out to those families who lost the joy of their lives, and survivors that may be in shock after witnessing that traumatic event. In all honesty these shootings have become out of control, and im in fear of all the copycats out there.

-congresswoman (Gabby Giffords)

-One at the movie theater during Batman Premiere

-believe it was in wisconsin (not sure) that killed people in the temple

-one in a mall last week

- there was that one in Sweden

-and then this one.

far too many lives been lost.

im not in the mood to discuss the gun laws because frankly its something that i feel will never change. Most of these people that do these mindless acts are medically labeled as 'insane' and its worrying that how their not being treated before they commit these acts.

People wonder 'why?' 'whats the motive?' but unless you've been inside the heads of these people you and I will never understand.

To be honest, I have never tried to understand most of these guys motives, there must be something wrong with the person if he want to commit mass murder.

I am more concerned that all of them were using guns and they either bought the gun by himself or stole it from their parents/relatives.

So all/most of them were using Legal gun. I understand that it's impossible to outlaw gun in US but there must be a way to make it super difficult for this kind of people to get guns.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

  On 15/12/2012 at 18:26, manpe said:

The constitution was written at a time when guns weren't as widespread and dangerous as they are now. They used bullets far less lethal than contemporary ones, there were no machine guns. It was a time when people had to protect themselves from outside aggressors (they had just overcome their colonizers in a revolution), it was an unstable time when protection was necessary as proved by the subsequent civil war.

Times have changed since then, at least this part of the consitution is severely outdated and its effects have tragic consequences nowadays. If the fathers of the constitution were alive today, they would commit suicide if they learned how bad it's become. I don't doubt they had their best intentions when they wrote that, it's just that at that time people didn't have a clue what the world would become like more than 200 years later.

Many Americans have a religious view of the constitution. As if the founding fathers were prophets rather than smart but flawed men. (And all of them were white men). There is no need for anyone to have an assault rifle. There is no need for people to walk around with concealed weapons. It's madness.

@communicate-absolutely. The media is so complicit in this nonsense. The discussion is almost always "how can this happen" in a moral sense and they focus on mental illness (the lack of public funding for this also doesn't help). That's not the real issue. You can never stop people from snapping and wanting to kill lots of people. You can, however, stop people from getting guns so that when they do snap, their ability to commit violence is severely limited.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

I don't own a gun and probably never will...but I don't think it's right to blame guns for this massacre.

It's the motive that drives the man to commit such an act which is worrying...

Maybe the government is testing some sort of drug on random people to see how enraged they would be and how they would react with a weapon.

Maybe the man woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Maybe the waitress brought him his eggs scrambled instead of sunny side up.

It's the motive that scares me not the guns... I drive a weapon everyday, but I don't kill people.