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our society is more violent now .. The world I mean not just UK and USA ... Look at films and TV ,,,so much gratuitous violence ..video games ..drug and alcohol abuse all make their contribution . That and an increasingly easy access to weapons is a recipe for disaster . The problem is only going

to get worse ,, on this issue I find it hard to be optimistic. My thoughts now are for that devastated community.

Here is what eminent American writer Roger Ebert has to say:

Let me tell you a story. The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. "Wouldn't you say," she asked, "that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?" No, I said, I wouldn't say that. "But what about 'Basketball Diaries'?" she asked. "Doesn't that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?" The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it's unlikely the Columbine killers saw it.

The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. "Events like this," I said, "if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn't have messed with me. I'll go out in a blaze of glory."

In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of "explaining" them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy.

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Did read that in 2009 or so there was almost the same amount as people in the US killed by Firearms as in road accidents

And this is a bit mental:

Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center.

Why would you need to carry a gun into either?!?!?!Seriously!!

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The Guardian seems to suggest there are 3.4 million civilian firearms in the UK....http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

Absolutely huge amount if true, I wonder if they include air rifles and such as firearms

Air rifles are not considered as firearms.

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Puts it into perspective :lol:

What? Why is Kinder Surprise illegal?

Did read that in 2009 or so there was almost the same amount as people in the US killed by Firearms as in road accidents

And this is a bit mental:

Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center.

Why would you need to carry a gun into either?!?!?!Seriously!!

USA is taking population control very seriously :ph34r2:

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I think a lot must be -but its also the legislation thats totally warped in the US -like in Texas for example

http://www.texasgunlaws.org/

This is just amazing. You don't need to have any kind of license to buy a gun in Texas, only a valid state ID. Wow, just wow.

How many deaths in history have there been by children swallowing the surprise in kinder surprise? One perhaps, at most?

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This happens all the time when there are deaths with guns, they wont change the main law, as it was made legal to have your own gun.

Rewriting it would cause havoc, can't see them doing it to be honest.

Because we're a spineless nation. No real direction, besides rich people worrying about how to keep their money.

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Just saw a bit of Obama's speech on news. He's becoming increasingly better at that (no shock, he's had to make quite a few of those since becoming president), now he's even learned to wipe tears, not very convincingly though. He will get better though, he'll no doubt have a lot more practice in the next 4 years, he might even start singing lullabies with a trembling voice by 2015.

Tbh everything seems so fake about USA. Americans are great actors.

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What? Why is Kinder Surprise illegal?
While Kinder eggs have been available in Canada since 1975, the product has never been allowed into the US for several reasons.

The 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act contains a section highlighting that a confectionery product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States, unless the FDA issues a regulation that the non-nutritive object has functional value.[5] Essentially, the 1938 Act bans “the sale of any candy that has imbedded in it a toy or trinket.” [6]

In 2012 the FDA re-issued their import alert stating “The imbedded non-nutritive objects in these confectionery products may pose a public health risk as the consumer may unknowingly choke on the object.” [7]

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Just saw a bit of Obama's speech on news. He's becoming increasingly better at that (no shock, he's had to make quite a few of those since becoming president), now he's even learned to wipe tears, not very convincingly though. He will get better though, he'll no doubt have a lot more practice in the next 4 years, he might even start singing lullabies with a trembling voice by 2015.

Tbh everything seems so fake about USA. Americans are great actors.

The hypocrisy was sickening. When I saw it on the news, I told my mom that if he really felt like that, he wouldn't be dropping bombs on 6 different nations. Prick.

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Because we're a spineless nation. No real direction, besides rich people worrying about how to keep their money.

Just about almost every nation mate, but consider yourselves lucky, some nations are in the complete shit. You could even just look at Italy, everything in that nation is just about corrupt, hell even it's football.

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Obama is still better than that idiot George Bush. How that idiot cowboy was running the most powerful country in the world is beyond me.

Anybody can be the president of the USA, even a cowboy actor, you just have to be good at demagogy, populism and a yes man. If you grow a spine and start thinking for yourself, you will face a fate similar to John F. Kennedy (he wanted to withdraw from Vietnam). After him every single US president has been the ultimate puppet. Bush was an entertainer, an actor for television, a real life sitcom character.

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