Fernando Torres

[francozola 2,040]

I believe Dan Levene said on twitter a while back that we were going to include Lukaku, Cahill & Bertrand in the squad and remove Alex, Anelka and Ferreira. Not 100% sure if it was him though

[DH1988 1,273]

Reading the last two pages I'm asking myself whether the majority of you watch our games or just highlights, quite a forward assumption I'll admit but our problems are:

1) Our midfield/Service

2) Confidence

If you want me to explain the above in more details then let me know, and before I get a reply about the chances like the 3-2 United one where he should have hit it but tried to pull it back I think its pretty simple to chalk that and the ilk of those chances to confidence.

[manpe 10,861]

Reading the last two pages I'm asking myself whether the majority of you watch our games or just highlights, quite a forward assumption I'll admit but our problems are:

1) Our midfield/Service

2) Confidence

If you want me to explain the above in more details then let me know, and before I get a reply about the chances like the 3-2 United one where he should have hit it but tried to pull it back I think its pretty simple to chalk that and the ilk of those chances to confidence.

bingo, 2 things that he's missing... but when he does get proper service, his confidence comes into play and manages to screw up. It's a downward spiral that is hard to break. His confidence at the beginning of the season was better, you just need to watch the goals against manu and swansea, the Torres of 2012 would have taken n+2 touches before attempting a shot (n being the optimal time to shoot).

[DH1988 1,273]

I partly agree.

However I have this conversation with a lot of people, I agree with the part of 'When he does get a chance his confidence comes into play' but realistically how few and far between are those chances? Watch the games, watch his runs, watch his movement.

Put yourself in the same position, if your getting no service or you know the (certain?) players cannot play a particular pass, i.e. a nice subtle through ball or a weighted ball over the top then are you really going to keep making those darting sprinting runs? Or are you going to believe in your own ability (to take players on and such, what other choice is there?) and come deep/out wide to receive the ball in order to make something happen? I.e. Cross for Mata's goal.

[manpe 10,861]

I partly agree.

However I have this conversation with a lot of people, I agree with the part of 'When he does get a chance his confidence comes into play' but realistically how few and far between are those chances?

They are few but ones that he should be taking much better. How often does he attempt ridiculous dribbles at 3-4 defenders? Those kind of things puzzle me.

[DH1988 1,273]

Why do they puzzle you? That says to me that its a striker that doesn't believe in his team mates ability to make consistent chances for him to capitalize on so he takes it upon himself.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He has been trying to regain his "confidence" for a whole year in which he has cost us many points and possibly cost Carlo his job. He has had many opportunities to prove himself, the biggest one, in my opinion, being the past month with Anelka gone and DD at the ACoN, yet he once again failed. As a Chelsea fan I have lost all faith in him ever regainnig his form/confidence and therefore, he must be sold in the summer because he is coming in the way of the clubs best interest.

[manpe 10,861]

Why do they puzzle you? That says to me that its a striker that doesn't believe in his team mates ability to make consistent chances for him to capitalize on so he takes it upon himself.

because it has never benefited him, yet he still attempts... all of his goals so far have come from pinpoint passes, not once has he succeeded by outdribbling the whole team. he loses possession more than not. anyway, imo he just engages into too many impossible situations.

[Peace. 4,352]

I read yesterday that the last Chelsea player to go 1000 minutes without scoring is Cech

Mikel ?

[Idiot 71]

best assisting player of our team...

[Badboy 1,526]

I read yesterday that the last Chelsea player to go 1000 minutes without scoring is Cech

Mikel has gone his whole career without scoring.

[Badboy 1,526]

Cool. I like some German humour -things like extreme ironing

Germans and humour should never be in the same sentence. Germans don't laugh, they are just ice cold and annoyingly efficient.

[Idiot 71]

Germans and humour should never be in the same sentence. Germans don't laugh, they are just ice cold and annoyingly efficient.

seems like you know a lot of germans i cant remember a single without laughing..

[Badboy 1,526]

So to everyone who said they would give him the period were Drogba was gone to asses him.......... WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW ? The guy is finished, we have basically bought a former world class striker without checking the old MOT. To all the people who are saying we could get 30 million for him dream on, if we get 10 i'll be over the moon. Roman should never be involved in transfers ever again just because he enjoy's Fifa and Football Manager, Drogba will walk back into the side and he'll be 34 in one month from now. We should never have given Anelka away.

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

Germans and humour should never be in the same sentence. Germans don't laugh, they are just ice cold and annoyingly efficient.

Oooh controversial BB. Aint that a bit stereotypical ?

Had a right laugh with them in Hannover and Stuttgart and exterme ironing is just mental

[LDN Blue 7,903]

LOL Badboy!

[Badboy 1,526]

LOL Badboy!

I'm absolutely devastated that we've got them in our group in the Euro's because i know whats going to happen. We're going to create 100 chances and we'll only score once they will create 4 chances and they will score 4. Anyway back to Torres, Torres needs to have his salary capped until he can score a few goals then we can re-activate it.

[Kezza 1,965]

Whats the bet we will sell him off to a club for 20-30mil, end up playing that club and Nando scores a hat trick.