🇪🇸 Fernando Torres

[iceman 329]

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

Remember Torres didn't even take penalties in that time period. He was absolutely better than Torres & Villa.

https://youtu.be/DU0NlQEIOxg

Just ridiculous

What seems ridiculous in my opinion is to imagine it is possible to quantify a player's ability simply by counting goals. Thinking like that can lead to flushing £100m down the toilet if you're not careful.

I frequently said, while Torres was scoring those goals, that he was nevertheless a very ordinary player. We have since learned from Danny Murphy that Torres's Liverpool teammates thought so too. Recently Iker Casillas has also broken cover, which I expect more professionals will as the years pass and the autobiographies are published. Forget the goals, the truth about Torres was inescapable if you just watched him play. A bloke might be able to beat the odds for a while but Nando's luck was always going to run out.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

I think people here exaggerate Torres's struggles. The guy was decent was just unlucky because of his price tag which really affected his confidence, we have had much worse flops like Shevchenko, Veron and Kezman. He was not a success but neither was he a failure imo

[Spike 12,049]

I think people here exaggerate Torres's struggles. The guy was decent was just unlucky because of his price tag which really affected his confidence, we have had much worse flops like Shevchenko, Veron and Kezman. He was not a success but neither was he a failure imo

Unlucky because of his transfer? His knees were shot and he burnt out by 27. He was once the best striker in the world, bar no one. He demolished the Premier Leauge in its peak for three solid years. It was never a matter of confidence or lack there of, the injuries, surgeries and poor management from the Spanish and Liverpool medical teams is what contributed to his downfall. To say that Torres lacked confidence for the entire duration of his Chelsea career is a copout. He at one point, he scored a betler of a goal against the supposed 'best team in the world' in a Champions League semifinal, if that doesn't give a man confidence not much will.

Shevchenko wasn't a flop per se (he was with a *). It was a bad transfer moreso. Sheva was already 30, closer to 31 when he joined Chelsea. To expect him to replicate waht he had done in Italy probably wasn't the wisest. Sure he could have done better, but really he wasn't suited to the team nor was he in his prime.

Kezman was from a striker from the Eredivisie. Flops from that league are a dime a dozen.

[Tomo 21,751]

I think people here exaggerate Torres's struggles. The guy was decent was just unlucky because of his price tag which really affected his confidence, we have had much worse flops like Shevchenko, Veron and Kezman. He was not a success but neither was he a failure imo

He was worse than Sheva and Kezman.

If those two got the unconditional chances and their name chanted every time they got dispossessed I'm certain they would have done better.

The fact that we brought back the striker he was suppose to replace at 36 years old to replace him says it all, there is just no way of sugarcoating Torres, he was a complete disaster.

[Tomo 21,751]

Unlucky because of his transfer? His knees were shot and he burnt out by 27. He was once the best striker in the world, bar no one. He demolished the Premier Leauge in its peak for three solid years. It was never a matter of confidence or lack there of, the injuries, surgeries and poor management from the Spanish and Liverpool medical teams is what contributed to his downfall. To say that Torres lacked confidence for the entire duration of his Chelsea career is a copout. He at one point, he scored a betler of a goal against the supposed 'best team in the world' in a Champions League semifinal, if that doesn't give a man confidence not much will.

Shevchenko wasn't a flop per se (he was with a *). It was a bad transfer moreso. Sheva was already 30, closer to 31 when he joined Chelsea. To expect him to replicate waht he had done in Italy probably wasn't the wisest. Sure he could have done better, but really he wasn't suited to the team nor was he in his prime.

Kezman was from a striker from the Eredivisie. Flops from that league are a dime a dozen.

He was never the best striker in the world, even in his prime his all round play was pretty limited.

Eto'o, Drogba, Henry, Rooney and Villa were all better in that period, especially against tight defences were you needed a bit of craft and intelligence to break through.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I think people here exaggerate Torres's struggles. The guy was decent was just unlucky because of his price tag which really affected his confidence, we have had much worse flops like Shevchenko, Veron and Kezman. He was not a success but neither was he a failure imo

you do know Kezman was bought in as a 3rd choice striker behind Drogba and Gudjohnsen, he scored in a cup final, scored 4 goals in 6 PL starts and lead the line brilliantly in one of our greatest ever matches when we beat Barca 4-2, still to this day i dont know how Kezman can be considered a flop, what more do you want from a 3rd choice striker?

[Spike 12,049]

He was never the best striker in the world, even in his prime his all round play was pretty limited.

Eto'o, Drogba, Henry, Rooney and Villa were all better in that period, especially against tight defences were you needed a bit of craft and intelligence to break through.

I didn't actually mention a period of time. The only period of time I mentioned was that he 'demolished the premier league for three years', not that he was the best striker for all those years.

Torres was better than those players in 07. Limited or not, Torres got the job done. It is very easy to forget how ridiculously good he was.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

He was never the best striker in the world, even in his prime his all round play was pretty limited.

Eto'o, Drogba, Henry, Rooney and Villa were all better in that period, especially against tight defences were you needed a bit of craft and intelligence to break through.

You just hate torres don't you?? Saying Villa was better than Torres is plain absurdity

[Spike 12,049]

You just hate torres don't you?? Saying Villa was better than Torres is plain absurdity

He was for the most part.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Iker Casillas slammed Fernando Torres after he joined Chelsea

Iker Casillas labelled Fernando Torres "the most overvalued player in Spanish football" after the striker completed his £50 million move from Liverpool to Chelsea in January 2011. (According to Dudek's book)

http://www.givemesport.com/583669-iker-casillas-slammed-fernando-torres-after-he-joined-chelsea?autoplay=on

Such a rat that Casillas, himself was the most overrated goalkeeper of the last decade.

Casillas was shit for last three years, but you cant take away his career as whole. World cups and euro, 3 CL, 7 la liga titles. Till Mou benched him, he was one if not best GK for several years, along Buffon. But he turned quite shit after that and last three years he was overrated as fuck.

He become realy good at very young age (around 19), but declined quickly too. After 30, he wasnt the same. Hopefuly this wont happen with Tibo.

[Tomo 21,751]

I didn't actually mention a period of time. The only period of time I mentioned was that he 'demolished the premier league for three years', not that he was the best striker for all those years.

Torres was better than those players in 07. Limited or not, Torres got the job done. It is very easy to forget how ridiculously good he was.

Fair enough, I still disagree mind, in 2007 Drogba and Villa were unreal, although Eto'o and Henry were a bit off mainly due to injuries, both had lengthy spells out IRRC.

One for a greavsie explains the "Torres wasn't as good as made out in his prime" opinion a lot better than I do.

[termninja 5,290]

Just scored against Barcelona, classic Torres goal. Got a through ball, sprint 1-1, hits the post and Atletico lead 1:0.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Simeone did what no manager could, maybe just maybe he could be a miracle worker after all.

[zolayes 14,489]

Simeone did what no manager could, maybe just maybe he could be a miracle worker after all.

Well with much more limited resources Atletico seem to have over taken us ..Im sure they would challenge for the title if they were in the PL

[Tomo 21,751]

Simeone did what no manager could, maybe just maybe he could be a miracle worker after all.

Torres isn't back, he's is playing at a similar level he did under Jose in 13/14, i.e. still average but at least resembles something off a footballer.

If wiki isn't lying to me he has 4 in 22, including tonight's game, in La Liga, that's actually a worse strike rate than what he had here.

[iseah100 5,612]

Well with much more limited resources Atletico seem to have over taken us ..Im sure they would challenge for the title if they were in the PL

They would win the PL. No doubt. Simione is the best manager in the world.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Torres isn't back, he's is playing at a similar level he did under Jose in 13/14, i.e. still average but at least resembles something off a footballer.

If wiki isn't lying to me he has 4 in 22, including tonight's game, in La Liga, that's actually a worse strike rate than what he had here.

Lmao, he's a role player not an automatic starter like he was here. His record is good & he's scored a bunch of important goals for them already.

[nate91 36]

Casillas was shit for last three years, but you cant take away his career as whole. World cups and euro, 3 CL, 7 la liga titles. Till Mou benched him, he was one if not best GK for several years, along Buffon. But he turned quite shit after that and last three years he was overrated as fuck.

He become realy good at very young age (around 19), but declined quickly too. After 30, he wasnt the same. Hopefuly this wont happen with Tibo.

Cech was always better than Iker. Cech may be the most under rated keeper of all time, no respect for the man. At the same time Iker was in his prime I would have taken Cech every day of the week.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Cech was always better than Iker. Cech may be the most under rated keeper of all time, no respect for the man. At the same time Iker was in his prime I would have taken Cech every day of the week.

How agree to this, Cech is an absolutely fantastic keeper.