UCL Draw Thread

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Stable club? Ronaldinho saved barcelona. madrid mistake of not signing ronaldinho was barcelona savior. had barcelona never gotten ronaldinho, barcelona would never had allowed messi to grow, iniest to grow, all their academy players to grow.

And Real would of won at least one cl.

Ronaldo, Romario, Stoichkove, Rivaldo, Luis Enrique, Figo, Frank de Boer, Ronald de Boer, Kluivert.......need more names prior to Ronaldinho?

And what does Ronaldinho comiing to Barca have anything to do with Barca's youth academy that has given good players??!!!! It is not like he ran it mate

[The only place to be 11,313]

Who is surrending? People are just saying it will be a tough QF!

It is funny how we draw the top French team and you (and your imperialistic view) think we are automaticaly in the semi-finals!

Where the fuck have I said that? I've just reacted to the naysayers who are saying it would be an upset if we won, which it definitely wouldn't be.

I don't have imperialistic views by the way. I just don't like snivelly little shits who call Chelsea supporters plastic, but you can paint that anyway you want.

Here's my view - PSG is going to be a tough tie but I think we're a good enough team with a great enough manager to beat them without anyone batting an eyelid. They have some good players who have gone to a team that pays well but we have top players who want to challenge themselves in one of the top leagues in world football.

[Eligius 121]

Ronaldo, Romario, Stoichkove, Rivaldo, Luis Enrique, Figo, Frank de Boer, Ronald de Boer, Kluivert.......need more names prior to Ronaldinho?

And what does Ronaldinho comiing to Barca have anything to do with Barca's youth academy that has given good players??!!!! It is not like he ran it mate

And how many players actually stayed on for barcelona?

Top teams, top players stay on.

Tier 2 teams they play to get on a better team.

Ronaldinho was barcelona, therefore gave them time to develop with no added pressure to make big name signings at their respective positions, that what ronaldinho did for Barcelona.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

And how many players actually stayed on for barcelona?

Top teams, top players stay on.

Tier 2 teams they play to get on a better team.

Ronaldinho was barcelona, therefore gave them time to develop with no added pressure to make big name signings at their respective positions, that what ronaldinho did for Barcelona.

So Juventus is a second tier team cause Zidane left? Milan is a 2nd tier team because Kaka and Sheva left? Chelsea is a 2nd tier team cause Drogba and Ballack left? Manu is a second tier team cause Beckham left?

The lists go on and on if you get my drift.

PSG must be a second tier team then cause Ronaldinho left it

Players move from clubs to other for different reasons and you should know that very well. Money, age, glory, competitiveness, system, playtime and list keeps going. Leaving a club doesn't mean that the club is a 2nd tier team. History, silverware, fan base, financial power, local and national reputation, recent performances and achievements are some of the things that are used to classify teams. Barca is definitely not a 2nd tier team. You really need to know what you are talking about.

Having said that, again PSG are not a bad side like I said before, but you cannot compare them to Barca, Bayern and RM. If they maintain stability for a few years and win international trophies then you can. Up till now, they are nothing but a team, with some good players and the owner is pouring money. Similar to Manchester City

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Okay lets hope history repeats itself and Mou does not lose in a QF

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Need to use your experience in europe...

and we have the mighty jose at knockout stages...

[Eligius 121]

So Juventus is a second tier team cause Zidane left? Milan is a 2nd tier team because Kaka and Sheva left? Chelsea is a 2nd tier team cause Drogba and Ballack left? Manu is a second tier team cause Beckham left?

The lists go on and on if you get my drift.

PSG must be a second tier team then cause Ronaldinho left it

Players move from clubs to other for different reasons and you should know that very well. Money, age, glory, competitiveness, system, playtime and list keeps going. Leaving a club doesn't mean that the club is a 2nd tier team. History, silverware, fan base, financial power, local and national reputation, recent performances and achievements are some of the things that are used to classify teams. Barca is definitely not a 2nd tier team. You really need to know what you are talking about.

Having said that, again PSG are not a bad side like I said before, but you cannot compare them to Barca, Bayern and RM. If they maintain stability for a few years and win international trophies then you can. Up till now, they are nothing but a team, with some good players and the owner is pouring money. Similar to Manchester City

Zidane left cus Madrid gave Juventus the largest transfer in history (at that time), also they had Nedved waiting in the wings.

Kaka left Milan to save them financially (or that is what he at least thought).

Ronaldinho left PSG because he was getting too bored there and the fans got tired of his laziness. ( You should watch the documentary on ronaldinho)

So, when I say top young talent from their respective nations go to the top teams in their leagues, what doesn't make sense....

PSG and Monaco are the top teams in France. PSG has raibot, digne, coma, ogneda all on their squad. Top young french talent.

I don't understand how I can't use PSG, when PSG is first in their league. Also, Real havent won an international champ since Jupp.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Zidane left cus Madrid gave Juventus the largest transfer in history (at that time), also they had Nedved waiting in the wings.

Kaka left Milan to save them financially (or that is what he at least thought).

Ronaldinho left PSG because he was getting too bored there and the fans got tired of his laziness.

So, when I say top young talent from their respective nations go to the top teams in their leagues, what doesn't make sense....

PSG and Monaco are the top teams in France. PSG has raibot, digne, coma, ogneda all on their squad. Top young french talent.

I don't understand how I can use PSG, when PSG is first in their league.

You know what, just compare PSG's history with Barca, RM and Bayern, you should clearly get your answer. I have nothing against them and AGAIN they are a good side, but overrated. It will be their first real test this year in CL

And I don't know why you are asking me about young talents, cause I said nothing with regards to that matter. I think you got me mixed up with someone else. I am arguing the fact that you said that Barca was " not so long" an irrelevant 2nd tier team.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

People are acting as if we've drawn Bayern. PSG have a lot of talent, but they play in a second-tier league and haven't had to face a single good team in the CL yet this year. They have a lot of good players but also a lot of players that overrated by fans (Marquinhos, Lucas Moura, Pastore ) based on what they've actually accomplished.. That and I think they fit very well to Mourinho's sort of game plan. They are a team that likes to attack and, don't have a very good defence, and are not used to facing talented teams. We could easily lose of course. They are a talented team and we're not where we need to be in terms of consistancy and talent but this is still a positive draw for us compared to what we could have faced.

[Eligius 121]

You know what, just compare PSG's history with Barca, RM and Bayern, you should clearly get your answer. I have nothing against them and AGAIN they are a good side, but overrated. It will be their first real test this year in CL

And I don't know why you are asking me about young talents, cause I said nothing with regards to that matter. I think you got me mixed up with someone else. I am arguing the fact that you said that Barca was " not so long" an irrelevant 2nd tier team.

See. You come in and you don't know what the original debate was.

So Monaco's players go to Monaco for the atmosphere and not for the money??

Good on them, especially Ricci and Claudio. Monaco is probably one of the best places on Earth to retire to and that's what these players have opted to do.

If the under-20 talent is any good then they'll do what all great players in France do - leave.

I responded...

or go to psg/monaco.

Just like la liga with madrid/barcelona

or like bundesliga with bayern.

it's funny you say that because the top players on the top teams in england are foreign players....

[Pauleta 0]

The only place to be > There's a whole forum that observes and mocks you.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-20-27333940-1-0-1-0-un-anglais-clash-le-psg.htm

Why are you so embittered against the Ligue 1 and PSG ? Paris-SG is a real team and a proper club. And the Ligue 1 is maybe not the best championship, but stop to think that it is the worst.

[Eligius 121]

The only place to be > There's a whole forum that observes and mocks you.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-20-27333940-1-0-1-0-un-anglais-clash-le-psg.htm

Why are you so embittered against the Ligue 1 and PSG ? Paris-SG is a real team and a proper club. And the Ligue 1 is maybe not the best championship, but stop to think that it is the worst.

Well, its easy to understand.

English people think their league is their best, just like their national team...

O, wait.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

not long ago, Barcelona was quite an irrelevant second tier team.

Also, they are the top teams in their respective leagues, therefore I compare them and use them as reference.

That was my debate with you young man

But whatever makes you happy

[Eligius 121]

That was my debate with you young man

But whatever makes you happy

Yea, you followed Chelsea since 96' but your favorite player is Salah...

Figures..

You wouldn't even be on this board had Salah not signed for us. You be yapping away in KOP.

[De_ChrapQaa 192]

Well, its easy to understand.

English people think their league is their best, just like their national team...

O, wait.

I'm not English and I also think Premier League is the best, what's the point?

[Beirut_Blues 306]

we fukkk psg

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

The only place to be > There's a whole forum that observes and mocks you.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-20-27333940-1-0-1-0-un-anglais-clash-le-psg.htm

Why are you so embittered against the Ligue 1 and PSG ? Paris-SG is a real team and a proper club. And the Ligue 1 is maybe not the best championship, but stop to think that it is the worst.

Name one big team PSG have beaten this year? ONE.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Well, its easy to understand.

English people think their league is their best, just like their national team...

O, wait.

Well the WORLD thinks that the EPL is the best league in the world. And every English person has the right to support their national team with a lot of heart like every other nation does support its national team. Now you can't stereotype people. I am quiet sure you support France. Some people are objective than others with regards to evaluating their national team.

Yea, you followed Chelsea since 96' but your favorite player is Salah...

Figures..

You wouldn't even be on this board had Salah not signed for us. You be yapping away in KOP.

There is no shame in supporting a player from my country and following his news yet never said he should start or play over Willian, Oscar or Schurrle but who are you to judge kid. You have got your history all messed up, you evaluate based on your passion, you compare Barca to PSG!!! You think you players leaving a team makes them a 2nd tier. You don't know if Ramires's tackle was deliberate, you think jumping or avoiding a tackle would be harmful......your talk before thinking mate.