The Benitez Thread

[bushman 2,043]

dude just one question to end the debate. were u satisfied with rafa's tactics in the match against corianthians?

Since I am not the manager, I do not like to respond to it.

Are you experienced enough to choose the line up differently ?

[didierforever 7,349]

If we were to play an open game against them, I doubt it. However, Chelsea seems to have their numbers. Therefore, I honestly do not know. Also, I do not speculate much on the outcome of games. Every game is different.

we seem to have their number on the park the bus tactic. rdm did what was best for the club. did we park the bus against tottenham in fa cup semi or pool in the final or qpr. we did what was essential to win. lets not call it "park the bus and shit"... its demeaning...

[didierforever 7,349]

Since I am not the manager, I do not like to respond to it.

Are you experienced enough to choose the line up differently ?

i am experienced enough now to know the line up and if it would work and escpecially i can see if a player is not playing well enough and substituting him.

but i can see that u r completely prejudiced not to give rafa the blame (thankfully most of the people here do, it was not even me with whom u were having initial discussion). so we are just wasting our time in this discussion. maybe some1 else can make u see it.

[bushman 2,043]

i am experienced enough now to know the line up and if it would work and escpecially i can see if a player is not playing well enough and substituting him.

but i can see that u r completely prejudiced not to give rafa the blame (thankfully most of the people here do, it was not even me with whom u were having initial discussion). so we are just wasting our time in this discussion. maybe some1 else can make u see it.

You are just another poster. Whether you feel you could line up the team differently, well that´s your prerogative.

As for your assumptions of me being prejudice & all that....I would be much more happier if you refrain from your advice. Someone like you have nothing to teach me. Thanks for your chatting. Keep on trucking.

[didierforever 7,349]

You are just another poster. Whether you feel you could line up the team differently, well that´s your prerogative.

As for your assumptions of me being prejudice & all that....I would be much more happier if you refrain from your advice. Someone like you have nothing to teach me. Thanks for your chatting. Keep on trucking.

well what do u call a person who refuses to acknowledge some of the basics of a particular match. anyways just one of the many articles about the chelsea defeat.

http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/7054.

[Tomo 21,751]

So he is in line to get the job full time?

Good, if we can't get Jose or Pep he is the best option out there whether we like it or not.

[bushman 2,043]

well what do u call a person who refuses to acknowledge some of the basics of a particular match. anyways just one of the many articles about the chelsea defeat.

http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/7054.

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Just like your managerial ability ?

[didierforever 7,349]

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Just like your managerial ability ?

surprising... seems u ll go to all lengths to protect benitez

http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/7054

i dont know how that is not working.

[Ankit 3,176]

So he is in line to get the job full time?

Good, if we can't get Jose or Pep he is the best option out there whether we like it or not.

I asked about Manuel Pellegrini is the la liga thread and someone replied me saying he thinks he is pretty good coach. With all the Malaga's financial problema and them getting banned from UEFA competitions, we can lure him in. Who would you rather have? Pellegrini or Rafa?

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

I asked about Manuel Pellegrini is the la liga thread and someone replied me saying he thinks he is pretty good coach. With all the Malaga's financial problema and them getting banned from UEFA competitions, we can lure him in. Who would you rather have? Pellegrini or Rafa?

I laughed at Pellegrini being a candidate, but if those two were the only options I would drive Pellegrini myself to Cobham.

[bushman 2,043]

surprising... seems u ll go to all lengths to protect benitez

http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/7054

i dont know how that is not working.

Quite the contrary. I do not protect Rafa at all. I just posted about his managerial ability. Currently, Chelsea under his guidance are playing better. That´s the bottom line for me. The club´s playing style of football sits well with me.

[Joker10 946]

So he is in line to get the job full time?

Good, if we can't get Jose or Pep he is the best option out there whether we like it or not.

Lets come back to that in the end of the season, better to evaluate that then. Rafa has until the end of the season to make a case for himself and win the job, he has to accomplish something worthy to manager Chelsea beyond this season.

[Joker10 946]

I laughed at Pellegrini being a candidate, but if those two were the only options I would drive Pellegrini myself to Cobham.

Pellegrini is a very good manager. You have to respect what he has done at Villarreal and now at Malaga, while playing exciting attacking football. To me he makes a good candidate and a good match to our current players.

[Corner 456]

Pellegrini is a very good manager. You have to respect what he has done at Villarreal and now at Malaga, while playing exciting attacking football. To me he makes a good candidate and a good match to our current players.

I agree. IIRC, I was actually the person who recommended Pellegrini in the Primera Liga thread.

Also, you can't forget what he did at Real Madrid (even if he did get sacked). He got them the most amount of they have ever had in the league, a record Mourinho hasn't broken. Real didn't win the league that year because Guardiola's Barca were unstoppable. But the football Real played that season is some of the best I've ever seen. Pellegrini was sacked because they had always wants Mourinho and then Mourinho was available.

What he's doing at Málaga now is probably his most impressive feat yet.

[rafafan 10]

Its funny when rafa was employed all Chelsea fan said the Club world cup was irrelevant and it will be RDM's triumph, and will mean nothing.

Now the match was lost it is another stick to whip him with, its all his fault etc, similar to the wearing of the red tie.

The truth is, the CWC is a prestigious trophy and should be taken seriously, but unfortunately the Europeans except Spanish and Italian teams do not take it seriously, but the Brazilians and Argentinians clubs think its the holy grail.

Couple of points to consider, Corinthians had over 30,000 fans in the stadium, which shows there desire to win the trophy, that transmits itself to corinthian players and management , who had been in Japan for the previous 3 weeks compared to Chelsea's 5 day vacation, which means there preparations in Japan alone had been 2 weeks more regardless of the work they had done in Brazil since winning the South American Champions League.

So in a nutshell corinthians had been preparing for THAT game for 2 months, and they are no mugs, but champions of South America with highly experienced players and management that have been together longer than Rafa's 1 week.

They are also a very solid team , who do not concede goals, and are almost cattenacio in there style, very un-south american in there demeanour and will lots of physical players, and even with all that preparation and rigid style, Chelsea still created 4-5 clear chances and conceded 1, which guerrero scored, so maybe Corinthians wanted it a lot more and got there reward for it.

some 1 posted that maybe he should have played Mikel in that game, and I thought that too as well, but then few days later you see how influential Lampard was against Leeds and Villa, and you can see that playing lampard in that game for match fitness purposes was actually a decent shout.

Maybe the Subs could have been brought on earlier, but when they did come on they had an impact , and maybe the idea was for fresh legs towards the end of the match, but only rafa will know who looked fatigued in training, but I think the desire of the players was why corinthians won it not quality, pretty similar to Chelsea champions league run last season.

It was not like the UEFA super cup, where Chelsea were outplayed, outhought, and dare I say could have been humiliated by,and could have lost the game by 5 or 6,

Also some1 mentions Fulham result as another stick to beat him with, and again I say, firstly Fulham have taken points of Chelsea in many other encounters, but also i think it is pretty understandable that you put out a team not to concede and lose as the hostility from the stands in the previous game and in that game was pretty intense, and if a goal goes in , then it is going to get even more hostile, and effect team confidence more. ( if I was rafa I would have played , 3-6-1, dont lose the game or I am in more trouble...)

Noticeable how the first half against West ham, was , refreshing, energetic, sexy football, and the team should have been 3-4 goals up, which even big sam admitted after the game, but than errors in the second half conceded the game, ivanovich, cesar and cole gifted the goals to west ham, and you can tell by the celebrations of big sam , it was his Champions League, CWC, FA CUP, LEAGUE cup all in 1 final !!!! he really wanted to beat rafa, and it must have been the half time teal talk of his life !!!! lol...

[robdog 2,084]

[The only place to be 11,313]

I don't have a point either.

[didierforever 7,349]

i remember this like it happened yesterday... u just cant stop loving DD!!!

[bushman 2,043]

rafafan,

most of your points are well said. To question Rafa & blame him for the loss is just clueless, I feel.

As you pointed out for South Americans the cup is almost the biggest trophy to win. For Chelsea it was not. Lethargic approach by Chelsea players was seen. Perhaps, had they scored on given chances, they could have won the game, who knows ? Too late now, isn´t it ?

[Muzchap 8,966]

He's doing a good job!

We definitely look more organised the players look fitter and win by win the confidence is coming back

I still wish Marin would get a chance, but hey that's life

My current grade is B+