The Benitez Thread

[BlueLion. 21,491]

After last night I've changed my mind from 'undecided' to 'YES'. Emphatically.

[Swoopz 183]

Under DiM Chelsea key players were overused. Therefore, a very tired team inherited by Rafa.

We came back from a sure exit of the CL and became european champions. How dare you level RDM's achievements to what Benitez is doing? You're god damn terrible at playing devils advocate. At least Henry used to make logical arguments, you just write garbage.

[The Skipper 20,593]

The only cunt here is you because you are Roman's right hand man and you didn't stop him from sacking rdm.

Blame that cunt Gourlay. I know I'm Roman's right hand man but Gourlay knows how to push Roman's buttons in ways I am too manly for.

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

We came back from a sure exit of the CL and became european champions. How dare you level RDM's achievements to what Benitez is doing? You're god damn terrible at playing devils advocate. At least Henry used to make logical arguments, you just write garbage.

First off, I think Rafa has to go. I was rather neutral or even positive that we should keep Rafa till summer but yesterday's game proved me wrong. At the same time I think some people overhype Di Matteo. Champions League wasn't only because of his tactics and so on. It was also old-guard putting in good games and more-over LUCK. Di Matteo inserted self confidence and had instant positive impact on the players because of the negative relationships with AVB, who was sacked. Di Matteo did tire out our players, although he did make us play attacking football and it was very effective in the start of the season but it was fading as time wore on. There was no rotation what so ever and in the end of the day even athletes get tired and performance drops. Keep in mind he, too, lost two trophies and is responsible for failure in Champions League this season. Di Matteo is a great person, a gentleman but in no way a world class manager, not yet.

[edetarod 2,155]

leave the "?" out of the topic title

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Regarding our squad depth. Why on earth are our youngsters so afraid on the pitch? Looking at da Silva brothers are always rearing to have a go and play their heart out, whereas the likes of Bertrand etc seem too shy and hesitant. Like he is going to cry, he can't be starstruck, can he?

[MHL 47 378]

Hope you kneed the little cunt in the groin.

Yup taking Mata off was a masterstroke -it left Benayoun ball watching for their equaliser. On the positive FSW is favourite to be th e next Prem manager to be sacked -but cant see them doing it till May as the fuckwits on the board cant get anyone else.

As far as I am concerned we could get better results from Stamford the Lion

Kids, groins......... a sentence containing those two words belongs at Arsenal!!

I think I'm minded like yourself, the situations gone beyond mattering who's available to be brought in now, either on a temporary or permanent position, we just need to change the 'scenery'. The Fans will instantly change demeanour, out of sheer relief at seeing the FSW disappear over the horizon, never to darken our clubs door again.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Kids, groins......... a sentence containing those two words belongs at Arsenal!!

I think I'm minded like yourself, the situations gone beyond mattering who's available to be brought in now, either on a temporary or permanent position, we just need to change the 'scenery'. The Fans will instantly change demeanour, out of sheer relief at seeing the FSW disappear over the horizon, never to darken our clubs door again.

Fair play for going to watch that shit last night. A mate of mine gave me a bell at the last minute with a ticket but I passed. I had plenty of legit excuses like being knackered and it being a bit of a mission to get there in time for the kick-off but that's never stopped me in the past if I'm honest.

I'm sick of Benitez now though. I could overlook the myriad of things that make him simply not fit to manage our club if he could do the basics right and close out games but he's done it too many times now against weak teams like West Ham, Southampton and Reading. We were lucky against Arsenal too. I'm counting down the days until he's gone and praying that the team's chasing us continue to drop points.

[MHL 47 378]

Fair play for going to watch that shit last night. A mate of mine gave me a bell at the last minute with a ticket but I passed. I had plenty of legit excuses like being knackered and it being a bit of a mission to get there in time for the kick-off but that's never stopped me in the past if I'm honest.

I'm sick of Benitez now though. I could overlook the myriad of things that make him simply not fit to manage our club if he could do the basics right and close out games but he's done it too many times now against weak teams like West Ham, Southampton and Reading. We were lucky against Arsenal too. I'm counting down the days until he's gone and praying that the team's chasing us continue to drop points.

Away STH, don't get much of a choice, apart from just ripping up the tickets and spunking the dough. I understand how you feel, although it's the home games I'm getting to the point of thinking 'with that twat in charge, do I really want to go' - I still do though!

It's just repetition after repetition of the same or similar mistakes, generally slow build-up play and lack of movement apart from Mata and Hazard and now to a lesser extent than under RDM, Oscar.

As a wise man once said: "All men make mistakes, but only wise men learn from their mistakes". - Winston Churchill

This man is most certainly not a wise man, and he's doing nothing to dispel that, in FACHT (sic) he's proving it - To our clubs cost.

[zolayes 14,489]

Away STH, don't get much of a choice, apart from just ripping up the tickets and spunking the dough. I understand how you feel, although it's the home games I'm getting to the point of thinking 'with that twat in charge, do I really want to go' - I still do though!

It's just repetition after repetition of the same or similar mistakes, generally slow build-up play and lack of movement apart from Mata and Hazard and now to a lesser extent than under RDM, Oscar.

As a wise man once said: "All men make mistakes, but only wise men learn from their mistakes". - Winston Churchill

This man is most certainly not a wise man, and he's doing nothing to dispel that, in FACHT (sic) he's proving it - To our clubs cost.

as always my support goes to the travelling fans especially ...but now my sympathy is with the season ticket holders who have paid in advance ...and yet on here have been criticised for not backing the manager and team

[Fulham Broadway 16,948]

leave the "?" out of the topic title

Done

[dave30 728]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/11/rafa-benitez-yossi-benayoun-liverpool

He's Chelsea's jew, he hates Rafa too Yossi Benyaoun...

[MHL 47 378]

as always my support goes to the travelling fans especially ...but now my sympathy is with the season ticket holders who have paid in advance ...and yet on here have been criticised for not backing the manager and team

I've 2 Home STH and the 2 Away ones.

My seats are in the MHL as you'll guess and tbh there are a number around me who just like to moan, however we're playing anyway, but and here's the 'FSW Factor' kicking in, even the lads who are alright have had enough. They/we weren't happy in the first place with his appointment, but at home especially we've been consistently poor, save the Villa game and the first half against Arsenal, where in my view they didn't turn up, as soon as they pulled their finger out we looked mediocre again.

I'm not one for stating "well I've paid my money, that entitles me to boo or voice my own feelings". Booing any player is almost always counterproductive, however I and a good few around me are discussing how we can show the club the level of disgust we have for this bloke and how the club appear to us to be treating him differently than most of our recent managers. It's my choice to spend the money watching football and I do it willingly, I do wish however there was a decent way of getting messages to the club that our loyalty is being stretched to the limit now.

How is he getting away with not being removed from the position beggers belief, anyone in the recent past would have been! If it's because whoever makes the decisions feels we're better off with him than without him, think a bloody gain. He's a disaster and it'll get worse.

[Fulham Broadway 16,948]

It even says it on Sky Sports moving information bar now

....RAFAS A CUNT..........RAFAS A CUNT.......RAFAS A CUNT......

[Changingman_2000 876]

Reminder ;

The Fat cunt is still here scoffing his face and....

After being in charge for 20 competitive games (as many as RDM got this season), Rafa has:

- Won fewer games

- Lost more matches

- Drawn more matches

That sums it up. Normally, when a new manager is appointed, there can be an upturn in results. Its just stale with El Wankstain in charge.

[didierforever 7,349]

What a daft opinion to have. Most of the people who have voted no or are undecided most likely ponder if sacking him during the season would bring any positive effect at all. Nothing to do with being somehow Torres fanboy nor any other adjective from your educative vocabulary.

" any positive effective", really???. u can name any human or living species or even a damn chair or a table as the chelsea manager, and that will have a "positive effect" on the fans which would effect the team.

he is probably the only manager in the last 8-9 years in chelsea who knows that he wont be fired irrespective of how the team is performing. no other manager has had that liberty and leeway. and believe almost all of them were sacked for far less worse. yet the team cant perform, the manager cant make motivate them for cup semifinals and finals. he has no plan B. scratch that he has no PLAN A. our attack has no meaning, no substance. its way too restricted and constrained compared to rdm's and we cant defend to save our lives.

for someone who is considered to be a MASTER TACTICIAN, his substitutions are more like a 2 or 3 year olds'. ""IF I HAVE TAKEN OUT A STRIKER I SHOULD SUBSTITUTE HIM ONLY WITH A STRIKER, AND SIMILARLY FOR DEFENDERS"". his tactics never change, and never do the formantions even if its for the last 2 mins.

so what exactly is he helping with????

u would forgive and forget all of this if we were getting the right results but unfortunately even that is not the case. the mood in the fans and the players seems worse than ever before (except for when we were playing under scholari, but if u compare this moment to avb's last ones, u ll think the players were having a ball).

so tell me y exactly would it not have "any positive effect"

if u are worried about the media , then i am sorry to inform u that even without firing him , the media is anti-chelsea.

if u are worried we might become the laughing stock of the footballing world then again i m sorry to inform u that we already are that, but i would not blink an eye before making a decision of keeping FSW or getting top 4.

another reason can be that managers would be unwilling to come to chelsea because of the hire and fire policy but again most of them are pretty much aware of the situation going on and our NO.1 target just snubbed us for this reason (pep), so it would not be anything new or shocking. infact most of us under normal circumstances would be expecting a headline any time soon.

so y this absolutely unnecessary support towards FSW over the welfare of the club... how am i wrong in saying that people are putting their weird love for the ladyboy and FSW over this club when for me its absolutely clear that him going out is the best thing that would hapen to this club (and believe me that does include 19.05.12)

[Rmpr 8,977]

" any positive effective", really???. u can name any human or living species or even a damn chair or a table as the chelsea manager, and that will have a "positive effect" on the fans which would effect the team.

he is probably the only manager in the last 8-9 years in chelsea who knows that he wont be fired irrespective of how the team is performing. no other manager has had that liberty and leeway. and believe almost all of them were sacked for far less worse. yet the team cant perform, the manager cant make motivate them for cup semifinals and finals. he has no plan B. scratch that he has no PLAN A. our attack has no meaning, no substance. its way too restricted and constrained compared to rdm's and we cant defend to save our lives.

for someone who is considered to be a MASTER TACTICIAN, his substitutions are more like a 2 or 3 year olds'. ""IF I HAVE TAKEN OUT A STRIKER I SHOULD SUBSTITUTE HIM ONLY WITH A STRIKER, AND SIMILARLY FOR DEFENDERS"". his tactics never change, and never do the formantions even if its for the last 2 mins.

so what exactly is he helping with????

u would forgive and forget all of this if we were getting the right results but unfortunately even that is not the case. the mood in the fans and the players seems worse than ever before (except for when we were playing under scholari, but if u compare this moment to avb's last ones, u ll think the players were having a ball).

so tell me y exactly would it not have "any positive effect"

if u are worried about the media , then i am sorry to inform u that even without firing him , the media is anti-chelsea.

if u are worried we might become the laughing stock of the footballing world then again i m sorry to inform u that we already are that, but i would not blink an eye before making a decision of keeping FSW or getting top 4.

another reason can be that managers would be unwilling to come to chelsea because of the hire and fire policy but again most of them are pretty much aware of the situation going on and our NO.1 target just snubbed us for this reason (pep), so it would not be anything new or shocking. infact most of us under normal circumstances would be expecting a headline any time soon.

so y this absolutely unnecessary support towards FSW over the welfare of the club... how am i wrong in saying that people are putting their weird love for the ladyboy and FSW over this club when for me its absolutely clear that him going out is the best thing that would hapen to this club (and believe me that does include 19.05.12)

[robdog 2,084]

I couldn't help but to notice the poll results are growing more for the sack rafadyce option. I wonder if it will get to 80%. BTW does anyone have Guus Hiddink's number available?