Future Chelsea Captain

[DJames 729]

  On 06/05/2013 at 08:07, manpe said:

As far as I see, there are 6 candidates to be considered for various reasons: Cech, Cole, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mata, Luiz. I've thought about it quite a bit and, well, let me break it down for you.

Cech - As some people have said, it's not ideal for a goalkeeper to be captain. There is a rule that only the captain can approach the referee to prevent players from ambushing and harrassing him. A goalkeeper can't stray off his line any time he has something to say. When things get heated on the other side of the pitch, he wouldn't really be able to stick his nose into it, but having been spoilt with Terry for so long now, I've gotten used to our skipper breaking up fights and telling off opposing players. What he has going for himself though is his stature, being the last surviving member of the "old guard", intelligence, composure. He would be the opposite of Terry, so it would need some getting used to.

Cole - With his shady antics, his twitter rants and all that, he doesn't make a good fit as the face of the club. I'm pretty sure the board don't want any more bad press and "bad boy" image for the club, so he's not a serious candidate. And it's questionable how much longer he'll stay here, I'd rather someone got anointed long term, instead of someone who is well past his best and doesn't have long left.

Cahill - Not a regular. Hasn't really done or shown anything to be worthy of the armband. If he ever breaks through to be a permanent starter, then I'll re-evaluate him, but at the moment it's not worth going in depth with him. Though he has some qualities and certain characteristics that show potential, like, eeeem... resembling Terry, being English, well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.

Ivanovic - He's a good shout only if he makes the centre-back position his own, which he has never done. He's always been a rotational option, he's the first one to make room and the first one to come in. If Terry leaves, there's a good chance we're gonna sign a centre back and this might demote him to the bench. For the next season I can see him being a regular alongside Luiz, but I don't know where he'll be beyond next season. But there is something that Brana lacks which doesn't make me see him as a good fit for captain, I don't know what it is, but I just don't see him as a leader.

Mata - He's also a good shout. He's proven his commitment to the club, he's our best player, he's very likeable, he drives the team forward, he symbolizes what this club wants to achieve and become. The only thing that can be held against him is being too nice and not vocal enough, but who says a captain needs to be a loud asshole anyway? With him as skipper he'd be a stark contrast to Terry, our image as a club would probably improve too, because everybody likes him, even our rivals. It would also be fitting for a finesse player to be the new face of the club - Terry symbolizes the old physical powerhouse Chelsea, Mata would symbolize the new era of flair.

Luiz - Everything I said about Mata applies to Luiz as well. The guy played through pain in the greatest night of the history of our club and he was ready to take responsibility in case we lost, what more is there to say?

In conclusion: Luiz and Mata would be my prime candidates for captaincy. I would replace Lamps and JT duo with them, because they are great personalities, they drive the team forward, they will be our leaders regardless where the armband falls. I would feel bad for Cech though, he deserves it.

Also, we shouldn't be afraid to give it to a non-English player. We're a multicultural club and we should embrace it.

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Cahill - well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.

Really? I never understand most of what he says.

I see 10% potential for Hazard too.

[manpe 10,861]

  On 06/05/2013 at 08:15, DJames said:

I see 10% potential for Hazard too.

Really? Too early to say. At the moment there's nothing to suggest he'd be a fitting candidate.

[DJames 729]

  On 06/05/2013 at 08:25, manpe said:

Really? Too early to say. At the moment there's nothing to suggest he'd be a fitting candidate.

Reason why I only gave him 10% potential . There is something to him (both for and against captaincy) that I can't place for now but I wouldn't be oppose to him as Captain.

[Spike 12,049]

Ah, I made his topic once when I first joined. I think it was deleted.

FASCISTS

[English Freak 456]

  On 06/05/2013 at 08:07, manpe said:

As far as I see, there are 6 candidates to be considered for various reasons: Cech, Cole, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mata, Luiz. I've thought about it quite a bit and, well, let me break it down for you.

Cech - As some people have said, it's not ideal for a goalkeeper to be captain. There is a rule that only the captain can approach the referee to prevent players from ambushing and harrassing him. A goalkeeper can't stray off his line any time he has something to say. When things get heated on the other side of the pitch, he wouldn't really be able to stick his nose into it, but having been spoilt with Terry for so long now, I've gotten used to our skipper breaking up fights and telling off opposing players. What he has going for himself though is his stature, being the last surviving member of the "old guard", intelligence, composure. He would be the opposite of Terry, so it would need some getting used to.

Cole - With his shady antics, his twitter rants and all that, he doesn't make a good fit as the face of the club. I'm pretty sure the board don't want any more bad press and "bad boy" image for the club, so he's not a serious candidate. And it's questionable how much longer he'll stay here, I'd rather someone got anointed long term, instead of someone who is well past his best and doesn't have long left.

Cahill - Not a regular. Hasn't really done or shown anything to be worthy of the armband. If he ever breaks through to be a permanent starter, then I'll re-evaluate him, but at the moment it's not worth going in depth with him. Though he has some qualities and certain characteristics that show potential, like, eeeem... resembling Terry, being English, well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.

Ivanovic - He's a good shout only if he makes the centre-back position his own, which he has never done. He's always been a rotational option, he's the first one to make room and the first one to come in. If Terry leaves, there's a good chance we're gonna sign a centre back and this might demote him to the bench. For the next season I can see him being a regular alongside Luiz, but I don't know where he'll be beyond next season. But there is something that Brana lacks which doesn't make me see him as a good fit for captain, I don't know what it is, but I just don't see him as a leader.

Mata - He's also a good shout. He's proven his commitment to the club, he's our best player, he's very likeable, he drives the team forward, he symbolizes what this club wants to achieve and become. The only thing that can be held against him is being too nice and not vocal enough, but who says a captain needs to be a loud asshole anyway? With him as skipper he'd be a stark contrast to Terry, our image as a club would probably improve too, because everybody likes him, even our rivals. It would also be fitting for a finesse player to be the new face of the club - Terry symbolizes the old physical powerhouse Chelsea, Mata would symbolize the new era of flair.

Luiz - Everything I said about Mata applies to Luiz as well. The guy played through pain in the greatest night of the history of our club and he was ready to take responsibility in case we lost, what more is there to say?

In conclusion: Luiz and Mata would be my prime candidates for captaincy. I would replace Lamps and JT duo with them, because they are great personalities, they drive the team forward, they will be our leaders regardless where the armband falls. I would feel bad for Cech though, he deserves it.

Also, we shouldn't be afraid to give it to a non-English player. We're a multicultural club and we should embrace it.

The only options are Luiz or Ivanovic.

I just think Mata is too reserved to be our Captain. He's a top player, always shows passion for the club...but sometimes the captain will need to shout, show his ruthless side...

In the game against United when Rafael kicked Luiz and Oscar started showing an invisible card to Howard Webb...Ryan Giggs saw that and he just lost the plot, starting pushing the Chelsea players...then Lamps came in and calmed down everyone....if Mata was in that situation...not sure if he'd be able to take control.

Possibly Chalobah in 5-10 years time...

[Strike 7,317]

A captain should be the one the rest of the players look up to. Luiz has got the passion for the role but he shouldn't rant at the referee - especially over something so trivial as a throw-in. The captain is the peace-maker between the team and the ref. It may have been the tipping point of a number of decisions but it was not a good example from Luiz.

At this moment, I don't think anyone is a good fit to take over captaincy from the old guard but remember though, Luiz, Mata, Hazard, Azpilicueta etc have not been here long. Things could change in a year

[Manuf 1,448]

Mata, great character, rarely angry, lifts the team up, great passion, an absolute sweetheart

[DDA 9,770]

Mata would be a good Cappo because he shows passion in his play and always gives 100%. For me though Luis is the right character for the job.

[different level 1,056]

*Bump*

Now that everyone's favourites from last year Mata and Luiz are not with the club and long time servants like Lamps and Cole are on their way out probably the topic needs some reevaluating. Also the situation with Cech is very unclear and there is a possibility we start the season without all three of our vice captains from the years before (Lamps, Cech and Cole).

So as of this moment who do you think deserves to wear the armband when JT is not on the side and who do you see as the future captain of the team?

[zolayes 14,489]

Since FCC (future Chelsea Captain ) seems to be the kiss of death , I would like to suggest Torres.

[Special Juan 27,616]

Azpilicueta or Matic.

[Thendo 1,088]

Someone should do a new updated poll on this topic.

[Madmax 9,219]

Ivanovic fits the bill ... starts most games, a favourite of the manager, stands up for his teammates, solid performer, speaks English. He'd need to tone down his occasional volatility, though.

[Reddish-Blue 2,428]

Courtois

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Matic or Courtois

And dare I say Cesc...........

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Obviously this guy:

[Viper22 2,418]

Cahill would be there or there abouts but I think a long term solution is probably better. Either one of Azpi, Matic, Zouma or Courtois should probably be made VC for this year, then captain next year. With Cahill as an experienced VC from next year to help them out.

[xPetrCechx 13,565]

Update The poll?...

For me: Cahill