Closed Juventus v Chelsea

[YouNameIt 1,511]

without oscar we can win. i hope we win please

What the fuck? Im sure Ill regret this; but why wouldnt we win with Oscar?

[botswana 0]

Hello everyone. Been reading your posts just out of curiosity, being a Juventus fan. One thing I find interesting. Nobody seems to be mentioning the fact that you need just a draw tomorrow night (I give you three points vs Nordsjelland as granted). Typical English spirit. All my admiration for you. In italy we tend to think about the math far too much. For instance, if a draw comes out tomorrow night, Juventus would still have a chance to go through by winning in Ukraine. I just hope ths will not invade juventus players' mind if the result is something like 1-1 and 15' minutes to go. Winning in Ukraine could prove far too difficult for just about anyone

[OneMoSalah 8,803]

Hello everyone. Been reading your posts just out of curiosity, being a Juventus fan. One thing I find interesting. Nobody seems to be mentioning the fact that you need just a draw tomorrow night (I give you three points vs Nordsjelland as granted). Typical English spirit. All my admiration for you. In italy we tend to think about the math far too much. For instance, if a draw comes out tomorrow night, Juventus would still have a chance to go through by winning in Ukraine. I just hope ths will not invade juventus players' mind if the result is something like 1-1 and 15' minutes to go. Winning in Ukraine could prove far too difficult for just about anyone

I think most of us want the three points as we want to finish first in the group and get an easier opponent! I'd take qualification in second place but if the team gets a team like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund etc then we could have a very slim chance of going through.

[botswana 0]

I think most of us want the three points as we want to finish first in the group and get an easier opponent! I'd take qualification in second place but if the team gets a team like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund etc then we could have a very slim chance of going through.

You will hardly finish first in the group since you're behind Shaktar (the Ukrains are ahead of Chelsea in the 4-4 aggregate thanks to away goals).

Plus, if you beat us, we're out. So don't expect us to do you any favour in the final match in Donetsk :-)

ps

The way the groups are developing, it looks like this year won't make much of a difference being first or second.

[OneMoSalah 8,803]

You will hardly finish first in the group since you're behind Shaktar (the Ukrains are ahead of Chelsea in the 4-4 aggregate thanks to away goals).

Plus, if you beat us, we're out. So don't expect us to do you any favour in the final match in Donetsk :-)

ps

The way the groups are developing, it looks like this year won't make much of a difference being first or second.

I suppose that last part is true about the groups. Some teams have had up and down results. Like Real Madrid. I think its mathematically possible that we can still finish top of the group so hopefully two wins from two would put us there (depending on Shaktar though)!

[YouNameIt 1,511]

You will hardly finish first in the group since you're behind Shaktar (the Ukrains are ahead of Chelsea in the 4-4 aggregate thanks to away goals).

Plus, if you beat us, we're out. So don't expect us to do you any favour in the final match in Donetsk :-)

ps

The way the groups are developing, it looks like this year won't make much of a difference being first or second.

Not entirely true. If Shaktar draws with Nordsjaelland and you beat Shaktar, then you are through. But of course your chances to advance if you lose to Chelsea are quite minimal, but anything can happen.

[Frank Tung 3]

i think that oscar will score goal tomorrow,he very charming scored at champion league

[meetdoscar 335]

-----------cech--------

--Azpi---Iva---cahill---Cole--

-------mikel----------oscar------

--Ramires------Mata-------Hazard/moses(sub)--

--------Sturridge/Torres(sub)--------

Perfectly setup for counter attack.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

----------cech--------

Azpi---Iva---cahill---Cole

-------mikel----oscar------

Ramires------Mata-------Hazard/moses(sub)

-----------Sturridge/Torres(sub)--------

That formation is just bloody dumb. Again Ramires as RW? When we know how terrible he is there?

Ramires - Mikel

Moses - Oscar - Mata

[meetdoscar 335]

That formation is just bloody dumb. Again Ramires as RW? When we know how terrible he is there?

Ramires - Mikel

Moses - Oscar - Mata

When it worked last season did you complain? Juve have very effective wing backs this is what's best since they need the win more than we do. Any other set up (esp offensive one) means we will be SLAUGHTERED and moreover with this formation we still hve our three creative players on.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

When it worked last season did you complain? Juve have very effective wing backs this is what's best since they need the win more than we do. Any other set up (esp offensive one) means we will be SLAUGHTERED and moreover with this formation we still hve our three creative players on.

Eh.. we had a totally different team then.

Moses is 10x better on the right wing. Why not use a WINGER on the wing now that we have one? And if we want to play more defensively we dont have to play players out of position. Bertrand usually does a decent job offensively and a great job defensively on the wing, he could be an option even if he hasnt been that great lately. Playing another formation is also an option.

However, playing players out of position is just dumb now that we dont need to.

Mikel

Ramires - Oscar

Moses----------Mata

Sturridge

That is a bit more defensive.

[cousin benson 76]

I feel sick because I am sure he is thinking this.

He doesnt have a clue if he starts Torres Tuesday.

Anyways.....I'll take a draw here.

torres is our only proper striker, we have no choice but to play him

[botswana 0]

Latest news from Turin. Vucinic has been training today. He's available for the match. This said, we'll probably know who's playing up front only within minutes from the start. The rest of the team will probably show no surprise. Tough game ahead. Should be a good one to watch. Cheers folks!

[robdog 2,084]

Love reading all of the doom & gloom here. I remember reading the same crap back in April & May People really to stop reading the papers or something.

[meetdoscar 335]

Eh.. we had a totally different team then.

Moses is 10x better on the right wing. Why not use a WINGER on the wing now that we have one? And if we want to play more defensively we dont have to play players out of position. Bertrand usually does a decent job offensively and a great job defensively on the wing, he could be an option even if he hasnt been that great lately. Playing another formation is also an option.

However, playing players out of position is just dumb now that we dont need to.

Mikel

Ramires - Oscar

Moses----------Mata

Sturridge

That is a bit more defensive.

Your basis for selection are flawed. You talk about playing players out of position yet you mention bertrand of which he has never had any use offensively unlike ramires who is also by far more experienced and proven. Ramires on the right can nullify asamoah(whereas bert plays on d left) and ramires won't be playing offensively except the opportuniy presents itself (there is no point using moses if he is not being played as a winger but to man mark asamoah). Hazard is not in your team that's just nonsense hazard is our best counter attacking player along with ramires,mata and they both provide immense energy to the team so there is no way they are not starting. Mikel and oscar in the pivots because they are the best in possession technically. We don't want ramires loosing possession or making inaccurate passes in the middle of the field in this high pressure match.

Having said this iam not arguing with you but Rdm used a similar formation against shakhtar away and juve at home... I think he will do something similar especially in the absence of experienced players like lamps. and terry he must go defensive.

[DONI. 1,291]

RDM: 'Ashley Cole is available to play. The defensive focus of the team will be very important tomorrow.' #CFC

[Ankit 3,176]

Cahill: "All the lads are aware of what we have to do tomorrow and hopefully we'll be well prepared to go and do it." #CFC

Cahill: "Losing games isn't acceptable here and people are upset when we do. Sometimes things need to be said." #CFC

Cahill: "Everybody's behind Robbie, he's definitely the right man for the job." #CFC

Cahill: "David Luiz is so comfortable on the ball and has great ability, you don't captain Brazil if you're not a top footballer." #CFC

Cahill: "Defensively this season we have been good apart from the last few weeks, so we need to improve on that." #CFC

Cahill: "Being a part of a club like Chelsea, you're expected to perform and expected to go out and get results." #CFC

Cahill: "When you lose games it does knock confidence, but we have strong characters and it's important not to dwell on it too much." #CFC

RDM: 'I feel confident. I have a good team and we know we have to play a big game tomorrow.' #CFC

RDM: 'I will see how the players are in training and then I will make my final selection decisions.' #CFC

RDM: 'It will be a difficult game but Juve are under pressure as well.' #CFC

RDM: 'Our intention is to cause Juventus problems so certainly we will attack as well as defend.' #CFCRDM: 'There was frustration on Saturday & we owe ourselves a good performance. In the past the players showed they can be counted on.' #CF

CRDM: 'Ashley Cole is available to play. The defensive focus of the team will be very important tomorrow.' #CFC

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Your basis for selection are flawed. You talk about playing players out of position yet you mention bertrand of which he has never had any use offensively unlike ramires who is also by far more experienced and proven. Ramires on the right can nullify asamoah(whereas bert plays on d left) and ramires won't be playing offensively except the opportuniy presents itself (there is no point using moses if he is not being played as a winger but to man mark asamoah). Hazard is not in your team that's just nonsense hazard is our best counter attacking player along with ramires,mata and they both provide immense energy to the team so there is no way they are not starting. Mikel and oscar in the pivots because they are the best in possession technically. We don't want ramires loosing possession or making inaccurate passes in the middle of the field in this high pressure match.

Having said this iam not arguing with you but Rdm used a similar formation against shakhtar away and juve at home... I think he will do something similar especially in the absence of experienced players like lamps. and terry he must go defensive.

Maybe you didnt notice that i didnt include bertrand in the formation?

But I still retain that you dont have to play players out of position to play more defensively. Playing another formation and tactic could be enough, and play another player (like Moses perhaps). Plus, by playing Ramires on the RW we take a huge blow offensively because there is a huge differance in Ramires' efficency on the RW and centrally.