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3 hours ago, nachikethas said:

Wasnt impressed much with the latest episode. The best thing was the reunion between Jaime and Bran!

I think it was a decent start. The horror-cliche-style umber boy scene gave me goosebumps albeit i expected it. Happy to see Tormund survived too (classic case of plot armour, no way he should have survived the breach of the wall). All Samwell scenes where excellently played. The scripting of the dialogues (esp the Dany-Jon ones) was not as poor as season 7 but obviously not as good as the seasons before. 

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I think Cersei will choose The Mountain (scariest warrior in Westeros) to fight for her. Tyrion won't risk Jamie, because he isn't able to fight so good, and if The Mountian will fight I'm sure Oberyn

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btw my theory for how it all ends: Bran is the Night Kind obviously. Jamie kills Cersei. Cleganebowl is a draw, Arya finishes the mountain but spares the Hound. Danerys dies at childbirth, Kid is heir to throne but Tyrion, who gets resurrected by Melisandre at some point will rule for him. Jon dies too but no idea how. Bronn dies saving Jamie who dies saving Bran. Tormund and Brienne get their happy end, Grey Worm and Missandei not. 

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On 4/16/2019 at 6:29 PM, Magic Lamps said:

btw my theory for how it all ends: Bran is the Night Kind obviously. Jamie kills Cersei. Cleganebowl is a draw, Arya finishes the mountain but spares the Hound. Danerys dies at childbirth, Kid is heir to throne but Tyrion, who gets resurrected by Melisandre at some point will rule for him. Jon dies too but no idea how. Bronn dies saving Jamie who dies saving Bran. Tormund and Brienne get their happy end, Grey Worm and Missandei not. 

Wow, that could be some ending! :D

2nd episode was great, lots of emotional scenes and a nice build up for the war that is on the way.

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On 4/16/2019 at 6:29 PM, Magic Lamps said:

btw my theory for how it all ends: Bran is the Night Kind obviously. Jamie kills Cersei. Cleganebowl is a draw, Arya finishes the mountain but spares the Hound. Danerys dies at childbirth, Kid is heir to throne but Tyrion, who gets resurrected by Melisandre at some point will rule for him. Jon dies too but no idea how. Bronn dies saving Jamie who dies saving Bran. Tormund and Brienne get their happy end, Grey Worm and Missandei not. 

It's way too obvious if bran is the night king. Hope the writers don't go down that road.

Is not dany unable to have kids now?

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4 hours ago, bakayokofan said:

It's way too obvious if bran is the night king. Hope the writers don't go down that road.

Is not dany unable to have kids now?

That witch was ambiguous if she can have children or not but I'm pretty sure Jon and Dany will have a baby, fits perfectly with the story.

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All I know is that alot of people are going to die in the next episode and we are going to see Jon going on a mad one as per.

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Wow. And not a good wow.

Nonsense episode.

So let me get this straight -

1. You know that if you die, there is a decent chance that you get resurrected as a wight. But no counter measure taken.

2. Dothraki are your best fighters, so what do you do? Tell them to charge against zombies who massively outnumber them rather than defending the castle.

3. Arya can't get past a bunch of wights but suddenly jumps straight on to the night king.

4. Jamie, brienne, tyrion, Sansa, hound, Arya, bran, Sam, davos, Jon (lol just lol, he seems undieable at the moment) and literally any "big" character survives irrespective of actual fighting skills.

5. Vicerion is fucking up winterfell. Dany is fighting her ass off against the wights - nothing. Everything ends and she starts crying - drogon comes back. Comvinience. 

 

Seriously, just shit lazy writing. Even shittier direction. The show was great (season 1-5). Now it's just another high profile, big budget drama. 

They have been building up the "others" from episode 1. "Winter is coming", "winter is coming", "winter is fucking coming" and it lasted 1 freaking night. Wow.

For a split second I thouhht, things might take a good turn, specially when drogon burns the night's king only for him to smile back. I thought "maybe this is where they would show the "others" to be an intelligent race, not just mind numbing villains with no agenda. And with resistant to dragon fire, that means a targareyaen. Something , something which might surprise and make things interesting". But no, nothing.

Now we will have to go from "saving humanity and fighting for it" to "let's bitch each other about how my claim is greater than yours".

 

#rantover

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14 hours ago, communicate said:

I thought the episode was a bit anticlimatic. Too easy

There will be a twist yet. Seemed too straight forward with Arya yeah but dont think its as simple as that. Was a decent enough episode.

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

There will be a twist yet. Seemed too straight forward with Arya yeah but dont think its as simple as that. Was a decent enough episode.

Hopefully there is. I think we have been waiting for white walker to cross the wall since season 1 episode 1,to end them just like that sounds too easy. May as well just forget about them. 

The episode was way too dark for me. Can't see anything.

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37 minutes ago, Weckerz said:

Why resurrect Jon Snow at all? That whole storyline is pointless now..

They really threw away the whole Azai prophesy. Jon resurrection among others make no sense, 7 seasons of building up just to die because of underestimating a child. We didn't even get the Night King's reasons nor at least explain the whole Brain shit, at least make the Night King say something, very disappointing, hopefully there is indeed more to it.

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1 minute ago, Nicco said:

They really threw away the whole Azai prophesy. Jon resurrection among others make no sense, 7 seasons of building up just to die because of underestimating a child. We didn't even get the Night King's reasons nor at least explain the whole Brain shit, at least make the Night King say something, very disappointing, hopefully there is indeed more to it.

Without the books, the show has become a standard fantasy show. There is no longer fantastic story, it just drama after drama. 

The Dothraki charge was beautiful but pretty much pointless. The whole world know it will fail.

Btw Jon was a total failure in battle of bastard. I have no idea who appointed him to be the leader in humanity last war.

 

15 hours ago, bakayokofan said:

 

They have been building up the "others" from episode 1. "Winter is coming", "winter is coming", "winter is fucking coming" and it lasted 1 freaking night. Wow.

 

 

#rantover

This. Longest winter ** *** .

 

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On 29/04/2019 at 11:20 AM, bakayokofan said:

Wow. And not a good wow.

Nonsense episode.

So let me get this straight -

1. You know that if you die, there is a decent chance that you get resurrected as a wight. But no counter measure taken.

2. Dothraki are your best fighters, so what do you do? Tell them to charge against zombies who massively outnumber them rather than defending the castle.

3. Arya can't get past a bunch of wights but suddenly jumps straight on to the night king.

4. Jamie, brienne, tyrion, Sansa, hound, Arya, bran, Sam, davos, Jon (lol just lol, he seems undieable at the moment) and literally any "big" character survives irrespective of actual fighting skills.

5. Vicerion is fucking up winterfell. Dany is fighting her ass off against the wights - nothing. Everything ends and she starts crying - drogon comes back. Comvinience. 

 

Seriously, just shit lazy writing. Even shittier direction. The show was great (season 1-5). Now it's just another high profile, big budget drama. 

They have been building up the "others" from episode 1. "Winter is coming", "winter is coming", "winter is fucking coming" and it lasted 1 freaking night. Wow.

For a split second I thouhht, things might take a good turn, specially when drogon burns the night's king only for him to smile back. I thought "maybe this is where they would show the "others" to be an intelligent race, not just mind numbing villains with no agenda. And with resistant to dragon fire, that means a targareyaen. Something , something which might surprise and make things interesting". But no, nothing.

Now we will have to go from "saving humanity and fighting for it" to "let's bitch each other about how my claim is greater than yours".

 

#rantover

The Night King was a First Man, from more than 6000 years before other groups of men (ie Andals and the Rhoynar) came to Westeros and 8000 years before the Targaryens conquered it, after the Doom destroyed Valarya.

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There has to be a twist. What was Bran doing whilst Theon was fending of the Wights? He worged into a crow and flew of somewhere. That was a set up for a plot twist. Surely?

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On 29/04/2019 at 0:20 PM, bakayokofan said:

Wow. And not a good wow.

Nonsense episode.

So let me get this straight -

1. You know that if you die, there is a decent chance that you get resurrected as a wight. But no counter measure taken.

2. Dothraki are your best fighters, so what do you do? Tell them to charge against zombies who massively outnumber them rather than defending the castle.

3. Arya can't get past a bunch of wights but suddenly jumps straight on to the night king.

4. Jamie, brienne, tyrion, Sansa, hound, Arya, bran, Sam, davos, Jon (lol just lol, he seems undieable at the moment) and literally any "big" character survives irrespective of actual fighting skills.

5. Vicerion is fucking up winterfell. Dany is fighting her ass off against the wights - nothing. Everything ends and she starts crying - drogon comes back. Comvinience. 

 

Seriously, just shit lazy writing. Even shittier direction. The show was great (season 1-5). Now it's just another high profile, big budget drama. 

They have been building up the "others" from episode 1. "Winter is coming", "winter is coming", "winter is fucking coming" and it lasted 1 freaking night. Wow.

For a split second I thouhht, things might take a good turn, specially when drogon burns the night's king only for him to smile back. I thought "maybe this is where they would show the "others" to be an intelligent race, not just mind numbing villains with no agenda. And with resistant to dragon fire, that means a targareyaen. Something , something which might surprise and make things interesting". But no, nothing.

Now we will have to go from "saving humanity and fighting for it" to "let's bitch each other about how my claim is greater than yours".

 

#rantover

1. What counter measures could they have taken? Somehow burn them all while fighting zombies?

2. Agreed, that was kinda dumb but made a good scene with the fading lights in distance showing newly found hope quickly dying. But what their actual plan was, I don't know.

3. She knew where Bran was, she knows this forrest well, so she probably found a hiding place and camped out until Night King appeared. She didn't need to go head-to-head with a bunch of zombies this time. It looked easy and I wish they would have shown how she did it, but it was a typical "last second save" scene (of which there were plenty in this episode) so showing that would have ruined it. But it was kinda obvious it was gonna be her, they never showed her after that epiphany scene with the fire lady so she was the only left who could do anything.

4. Have to agree it is ridiculous how Jon has survived all the odds in situations where any other side character would have been killed in seconds. Like the scene where Night King resurrects the dead and he's surrounded by fucking hundreds or thousands, give me a fucking break that he still has the stamina to fight them off as long as he did. But it's all fiction, so...

5. Don't understand what point exactly you're trying to make here.

 

The winter didn't last 1 night, what do you mean? It's still lasting and will last for a while longer. The first ~5-6 seasons were during the long summer, now it's the long winter. These are seasons.

 

11 hours ago, DDA said:

There has to be a twist. What was Bran doing whilst Theon was fending of the Wights? He worged into a crow and flew of somewhere. That was a set up for a plot twist. Surely?

I honestly don't think he was doing anything meaningful. I think he was merely using the birds to track Night King's movement, that's it.

 

Btw, I also thought the Night King was a Targaryen given that he can fly a dragon and survived dragon flame. I guess he was just a very salty and mute badass zombie. But I REALLY hope that they give him some more backstory in the next episodes, his character and his end left a really shallow feeling in the end.

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