BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Dont see why people criticize this team so much. Luiz, Cahill, Bertrand and Torres underperformed, yes, but still its not that bad to gtfo from the club, as some said.Only Torres was truly shit from my opinion, his decision making is so fucking bad. Our defence is criticized lot, but take note that Shakhtar did realy wonderful job and Wilian, Srna and Fernandinho were great. I believe that any Fullback would have problems stoping the trio. And Bertrand was alone, Hazard didnt contribute in defense much, so there is the result...Luiz should stop going forward, other than that he did decent. Cahill should mark better too. We won, stop being negative and think of Moses before yoy go to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Can't call Bertrand shit. He had a lot to contend with. They new he would of been our weak link and they capitalized on it.Would you rather go up against Iva or Ryan? He had an off game, but you can't expect a text book performance from everyone every single game.Those two sweaty goal pissed me off. Fooled us twice. We stopped there massive winning streak, that in itself is a great feat. Maybe they will crumble after this and we take top spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Have to say, just looked at the Match Thread and I know its easy to say in hindsight, but found some of the comments on the thread an absolute joke. Emotion do run high, but its better to just think before typing rather than saying something idiotic.From 60 minutes onwards we dominated. A draw was maybe a fair result, but we fought right till the very end and so for that the team deserves credit. Onward to Liverscum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ok here's my take on tonight.We were playing a VERY good, if not excellent team.We fought hard, I hope our team ends up gelling like Shakthar! They've been rebuilding over a number years and look an awesome well balanced team - I can't see many teams beating them!!!So Luiz really needs to work on positioning and distribution. I hate to agree with Tony Gale, but he was spot on when he said, Luiz needs to play as a team, not an individual..Torres actually looked a little useful up-front, but compare him to RvP and he still has a long way to go.Ramires was awesome along with Iva.RDM needs to teach people to mark in the box and watch late runners - we were awful twice to cutbacks resulting in goals - this is not rocket science to defend against, we need to work on our out of possession shape.Apart from that great game and Oscar was outstanding - we could have an amazing team in a few years!!!Yes we got lucky, but as the saying goes 'harder I work, luckier I get'The lads put a real shift in and deserve the creditLets go into the weekend and smash those spouse cunts 5-0... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount 146 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Bertrand definitely isn't ready to play against the bigger teams. He looked out of his depth at LB...hopefully we give Cole a new contract.I really dont understand this? people's understanding of the game is laughable,He played badly because he had no help from hazard tracking back for huge sections of the game. simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 totally agree. didn't get behind the team at all, why bloody come and not SING?! gets on my nerves ffsActually, this is what is sadly I realised when i watch home games. You can hear singing and chants but its not dominant I dont know why, ive never been there. But if you watch games in old trafford or anfield or even swansea at the libery stadium last weekend, its loud most of the time with singing and chanting from home fans. Another thing i realised, whenever i watch a game of other european teams that is not english, I always hear loud drums and trumpets especially in German stadiums, are those things not allowed in england?? it really brings a strong atmosphere to the match and stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Can't call Bertrand shit. He had a lot to contend with. They new he would of been our weak link and they capitalized on it.Would you rather go up against Iva or Ryan? He had an off game, but you can't expect a text book performance from everyone every single game.Those two sweaty goal pissed me off. Fooled us twice.We stopped there massive winning streak, that in itself is a great feat. Maybe they will crumble after this and we take top spot.you would never have guessed that with the reactions pouring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 We played much better in the 2nd half. Shaktar are a good team, they can beat anyone in the premier league on their day. We actually crossed a lot more in this game and this mixed up our attack, makin it a little unpredictable. Instead of only going through the middle. How I wish we could learn to put in low crosses like them. And oscar makin late lampard runs to score.Torres had only one shot, poor.Luiz, I was scared anytime he was near the ball or touched the ball.There is something I noticed, the team prefers to play one twos with only mata, but when oscar passes and makes the run, he rarely gets the return pass. I think we should be more fluid with everyone and not just mata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnmontero 78 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Yeah or we can sign Marcelo Yeah! OR or we can actually not be like Manchester City or we can be like any other team in the world and stop buying players compulsively and start promoting our young players, but of course like 1/4th of our fanbase would leave to support any other top team.Support your players mate, that's the problem with a lot of Chelsea fans, they think Chelsea players are like toys "Oh look a player is under performing for one game, CAN'T WAIT 'TIL JANUARY TO BUY X PLAYER" (obviously the best in his position at the moment). Our players should not be seen as something that can be easily replaced, do you know how hard did Bertrand had to break his ass to get where he is today? He deserves the opportunity he's having, maybe he's not the best at the moment but he is at least learning and he has a great attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 He played badly because he had no help from hazard tracking bad for huge sections of the game. simple.Amen. Lots of 2 vs. 1 on that flank. Bertie would drift in toward goal, like he should, in those situations. It left Srna with a lot of freedom. I still don't think Bertie had a good game, but I don't think he deserves some of the criticism he's getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Willian has improved an awful lot since last season.He's a lot more decisive and less selfish. Wouldn't mind him in the squad now!I love Moses though on another note. Just love him. He already seems really passionate about wearing our badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Great game and great win. We were excellent in attack and poor defensively. Bertrand had an off game obviously. I want Luiz benched. Not because I think he's useless, but because I think someone needs to get through to him and talking doesn't seem to be working. He's getting paid like a world-class defender and he is playing like a kid in a playground right now. He is capable of playing conservatively, but he just isn't right now. I don't know what else would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We played much better in the 2nd half. Shaktar are a good team, they can beat anyone in the premier league on their day.We actually crossed a lot more in this game and this mixed up our attack, makin it a little unpredictable. Instead of only going through the middle.How I wish we could learn to put in low crosses like them. And oscar makin late lampard runs to score.Torres had only one shot, poor.Luiz, I was scared anytime he was near the ball or touched the ball.There is something I noticed, the team prefers to play one twos with only mata, but when oscar passes and makes the run, he rarely gets the return pass. I think we should be more fluid with everyone and not just mata.I noticed that too. Hazard receive some degree of return passes aswell. But nowhere near Mata. And Oscar attempts a few runs every game, but rarely does he receive the ball back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I just hope Moses doesn't bother being a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount 146 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Actually, this is what is sadly I realised when i watch home games. You can hear singing and chants but its not dominant I dont know why, ive never been there. But if you watch games in old trafford or anfield or even swansea at the libery stadium last weekend, its loud most of the time with singing and chanting from home fans. Another thing i realised, whenever i watch a game of other european teams that is not english, I always hear loud drums and trumpets especially in German stadiums, are those things not allowed in england?? it really brings a strong atmosphere to the match and stadiumStandford bridge is one of the loudest grounds in england, UTD/liverpool fans are criticized for only singing when their winning, as the song says....Im almost sure the drums and trumpets are banned from english grounds but while it may be noise, its not the right type of atmosphere, chelsea fans chant many loud and witty/relevant chants to the game this is something almost unique to english football and works much better, chelsea has gotten quieter on big nights in the last few years due to more tourist then hardcore/diehard fans being in the crowd, unfortunate outcome of success, for example chelsea away fans....very hard to find a louder and better bunch of chants and songs.You'd understand more once you've gone to see them at the bridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/667816/LiveStatistics/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2012-2013-Chelsea-Shakhtar-Donetsk3 tackles and 1 interception for Hazard, not bad for someone that "did not help"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah! OR or we can actually not be like Manchester City or we can be like any other team in the world and stop buying players compulsively and start promoting our young players, but of course like 1/4th of our fanbase would leave to support any other top team.Support your players mate, that's the problem with a lot of Chelsea fans, they think Chelsea players are like toys "Oh look a player is under performing for one game, CAN'T WAIT 'TIL JANUARY TO BUY X PLAYER" (obviously the best in his position at the moment). Our players should not be seen as something that can be easily replaced, do you know how hard did Bertrand had to break his ass to get where he is today? He deserves the opportunity he's having, maybe he's not the best at the moment but he is at least learning and he has a great attitude.Exactly. This is what's incredibly annoying about too many (especially newer) Chelsea fans. It's not possible for a player to have even one bad game without the "we need to go buy this player" coming as a response. Players have bad games. Bertrand might not be the answer, but that will not be determined on the merit of one poor performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 There's so many players in that Shakhtar team that I'd welcome with open arms; mainly Srna.I doubt he'll ever leave, but he would be an incredible addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 JUST GOT BACK, AND YEAHHHHHH GET IN THERE MOSES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 What do you guys think of Fernandinho? Worth a bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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