Ball wankers?!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

First, sorry for title, I didnt meant to be offensive.

So, our players love to play with the ball, but many times, they lose it instead of continue the attack. Examples; Torres, Rambo, Hazard, Oscar, Brana,......list goes on.

We start many games with reserve, like we are shit in first 30mins and then start playing better. But in those 30mins, our players look total disaster to watch. Try some tricks with ball, instead of pass it on or cross it, and result is lost ball. Im asking if having 3! Playmakers in midfield is good option or not?

Hazard, Mata and Oscar definately can play together and potential of this trio is realy huge, but there is one problem. Each of this players can dribble first, passes second and shots third, no one can realy cross like from wing. All cut inside and try to show themselves instead of

making deadly crosses inside penalty area in zero time from receiving the ball. Valencia, for example has very good crosses.

Our game is very one dimensional, that is certainly not the best thing. On 8/10 matches we outplay oponent by short passing, but the 2 games, we cant realy get near the goal for some reason. With proper crosser, we could extend our attacking options greatly and not just that, but also almost every world class striker would fit our team and that means less risk for another flop. Right now, we cant cross for life and if someone like Falcao scores 3/4 of his goals from crosses, it would be disaster to buy him for 60mio and then find out we cant deliver him the ball.

Sure Torres is number one problem here, as his ball wanking instead of trying to shot is awfull. Replacing him for someone else would already expand our attacking options. But with good crosser, would be have no more problems in putting ball to opponent air-space. Kdb will coms next year and he could be the key to our team (maybe even for Torres), but I believe world and all Chelsea fans cant stand another striker flop at SB for big money. Dont forget that Torres was briliant at Atletico and Lpool because of their crossers and if Falcao is similar type to Torres, we will spend another 60mio for what?

So, should we concentrate to get some cross training and tell Oscar, Mata and Hazard to cross more over just low short passing?

I love our short passing and ball possesion when it works out, but there are many times when you need some strenght and air balls in penalty area to break defence, something we lack big in this new Chelsea team.

[TheCount 146]

First, sorry for title, I didnt meant to be offensive.

So, our players love to play with the ball, but many times, they lose it instead of continue the attack. Examples; Torres, Rambo, Hazard, Oscar, Brana,......list goes on.

We start many games with reserve, like we are shit in first 30mins and then start playing better. But in those 30mins, our players look total disaster to watch. Try some tricks with ball, instead of pass it on or cross it, and result is lost ball. Im asking if having 3! Playmakers in midfield is good option or not?

Hazard, Mata and Oscar definately can play together and potential of this trio is realy huge, but there is one problem. Each of this players can dribble first, passes second and shots third, no one can realy cross like from wing. All cut inside and try to show themselves instead of

making deadly crosses inside penalty area in zero time from receiving the ball. Valencia, for example has very good crosses.

Our game is very one dimensional, that is certainly not the best thing. On 8/10 matches we outplay oponent by short passing, but the 2 games, we cant realy get near the goal for some reason. With proper crosser, we could extend our attacking options greatly and not just that, but also almost every world class striker would fit our team and that means less risk for another flop. Right now, we cant cross for life and if someone like Falcao scores 3/4 of his goals from crosses, it would be disaster to buy him for 60mio and then find out we cant deliver him the ball.

Sure Torres is number one problem here, as his ball wanking instead of trying to shot is awfull. Replacing him for someone else would already expand our attacking options. But with good crosser, would be have no more problems in putting ball to opponent air-space. Kdb will coms next year and he could be the key to our team (maybe even for Torres), but I believe world and all Chelsea fans cant stand another striker flop at SB for big money. Dont forget that Torres was briliant at Atletico and Lpool because of their crossers and if Falcao is similar type to Torres, we will spend another 60mio for what?

So, should we concentrate to get some cross training and tell Oscar, Mata and Hazard to cross more over just low short passing?

I love our short passing and ball possesion when it works out, but there are many times when you need some strenght and air balls in penalty area to break defence, something we lack big in this new Chelsea team.

This, look how good we played today against UTD when we used some wide play and crossing as well as our short passing, it was fantastic i finally actually believed the team could work so well it could beat anyone. I was more then impressed that when we needed to we changed and played wide and crossed, something we had never done before this season even when that going through the middle shite didnt work.

Plus once we add width and crosses we'll get more space in the middle and we can chop and change and everything in general will just work better. Something ive been saying for ages and im glad to be right!

[Spike 12,049]

I attribute the coining of the term 'ball wanker' to @SeB,

But yes, I agree fully with you. I even mentioned this in the match thread against United several times.

I was angry...

Chelsea is officially a team of ball wankers. Congratulations, fucks.

[Strike 7,489]

our attackers don't attack the ball when someone crosses. united swarm the penalty area when valencia is drilling a cross in but chelsea had only torres lurking in the area when hazard crossed in. our players need to attack the ball and give the opposition defence something to think about

[YouNameIt 1,511]

This thread wouldnt be posted if we hadnt lost that game, and we wouldnt if fergie and man u had that kind of influence on english football.

It's all good, really, there is no problem.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

our attackers don't attack the ball when someone crosses. united swarm the penalty area when valencia is drilling a cross in but chelsea had only torres lurking in the area when hazard crossed in. our players need to attack the ball and give the opposition defence something to think about

That is because Mata, Hazard arent that tall. Rambo is neither good in the air, while Mikel has defensive duties. Brana could run in penalty sometimes, but not every time. That means, we basicaly have only one player in penalty area when crossing, Torres.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

This thread wouldnt be posted if we hadnt lost that game, and we wouldnt if fergie and man u had that kind of influence on english football.

It's all good, really, there is no problem.

The only problem yesterday was Fernando 'cant do anything' Torres and defence that looks very very unconsistent.

Other than that, we had great match, United was shit after second goal and ref blow up the game. Only positive I see after that game is that we are better team overall and that Danny and Azpi will get more chance now, since Brana and Torres are banned.

[Strike 7,489]

That is because Mata, Hazard arent that tall. Rambo is neither good in the air, while Mikel has defensive duties. Brana could run in penalty sometimes, but not every time. That means, we basicaly have only one player in penalty area when crossing, Torres.

nah. hazard played in a low fizzing cross and yet he didn't have anybody in support. plus mata, oscar have excellent control of the ball eventhough their aerial ability is next to null. we need to pressurise the opposition defence more. otherwise we did everything else well yesterday - attack i mean

[Miguelito 459]

Hazard, Mata and Oscar definately can play together and potential of this trio is realy huge, but there is one problem. Each of this players can dribble first, passes second and shots third

i disagree with this. Oscar- pass first, shoot second, dribble third Hazard- i would say that passing and dribbling are about the same, he is very mature and dribbles when needed. and shooting third. Mata- i would say that he is pass first, then shooting and dribbling is about the same

the thing is though, none of them dribble just to dribble. they do it to open up space and create something. i dont see any of them as dribble first or see any pointless dribbling by them but they all have the ability

[BlueLyon 9,359]

i disagree with this. Oscar- pass first, shoot second, dribble third Hazard- i would say that passing and dribbling are about the same, he is very mature and dribbles when needed. and shooting third. Mata- i would say that he is pass first, then shooting and dribbling is about the same

the thing is though, none of them dribble just to dribble. they do it to open up space and create something. i dont see any of them as dribble first or see any pointless dribbling by them but they all have the ability

Sometimes they look like they dont know what to do with the ball. They try to keep it instead of pass it on as soon they get it. But there is Torres who is absolutely garbage when keeping possession. He somehow gets past one or two defenders but he never shoots, he keeps the ball until he loses it.