KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 If you had a constructive argument Your opinion though, Steve. Don't mistake your opinion as fact.This is what I am talking about.Oh so I'm not allowed to reply? You do realise his post was exactly as condescending as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Your opinion though, Steve. Don't mistake your opinion as fact.If anyone is doing that it's yourself. All you have basically done is try to start stupid arguments. You have had a couple of decent points the rest of it has mainly been you trying to fish for an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Your opinion though, Steve. Don't mistake your opinion as fact.Do you once again not see the irony? I have made logical arguments, you come back with Ad hominems. What was the point in telling me to piss off from the forum? I have been a member longer than you.How have I posted delusional bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Why would you wish that? Fucking flog you are mate.Because clearly Chelsea are having trouble realizing that Torres aint gonna be THAT main man we need this season. And at the moment it seems that the only way that Danny will be given enough trust and oppurtunities is that Torres has some kind of injury. It's all in the best interest of the club. Nothing major, just something that keeps him away for 2-3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Because clearly Chelsea are having trouble realizing that Torres aint gonna be THAT main man we need this season. And at the moment it seems that the only way that Danny will be given enough trust and oppurtunities is that Torres has some kind of injury. It's all in the best interest of the club. Nothing major, just something that keeps him away for 2-3 games.LOL Ruud Gullit said the same exact thing yesterday at the Sky sports review show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Well anyway, I'll diffuse this heated argument...I agree with BOSS. Oscar could be better in the holding role than Lampard.1, Lampard charges forward way too much which is very annoying!2, Oscar is much more agile and very combative despite his skinny frame, his interception ability is surprisingly good.3, Oscar has much quicker feet and he distributes passes quick and accurate.4, Again Oscar's pace creates space for himself to collect passes from teammates.He wouldn't be allowed to go forward as much which takes away a lot from his game. He showed today his best work is when he is in and around the box. Think of him more as an attacking mifielder who can do his fair share of defensive duties. Hazard is the same. I don't know where this notion that Hazard and co won't help out defensively comes from. They do no less then the likes of Ronaldo/Di Maria, Robben/Ribery etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I agree with BOSS. Oscar could be better in the holding role than Lampard.1, Lampard charges forward way too much which is very annoying!2, Oscar is much more agile and very combative despite his skinny frame, his interception ability is surprisingly good.3, Oscar has much quicker feet and he distributes passes quick and accurate.4, Again Oscar's pace creates space for himself to collect passes from teammates.Sorry to say this mate but i said that Ramires should be the holding midfielder not Oscar. If Oscar was the holding midfielder his attacking qualities will not be shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 LOL Ruud Gullit said the same exact thing yesterday at the Sky sports review show.Obviousley he's a very intelligent person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Well anyway, I'll diffuse this heated argument...He wouldn't be allowed to go forward as much which takes away a lot from his game. He showed today his best work is when he is in and around the box. Think of him more as an attacking mifielder who can do his fair share of defensive duties. Hazard is the same. I don't know where this notion that Hazard and co won't help out defensively.I know his best role is AM. Just want to point out he could be a better CM than Lampsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Lool did you see the Brazil game? He was excellent.I've seen enough since we signed him to know that he is not great in possession, and not disciplined enough to hold in midfield. His stamina, pace and determination make him more suitable for a box to box midfielder. He is dynamic, restrict that and you lose most of his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I know his best role is AM. Just want to point out he could be a better CM than Lampsy.In a 4-3-3 sure but in a 4-2-3-1 he could actually leave us more exposed than what Lampard is doing, due to him constantly wanting to go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Perhaps this formation would be good guys:----------Sturridge-----------Mata------------------Hazard----Oscar-------Ramires---------------Romeu--------------Cole-Cahill-Luiz-Ivanovic-------------Cech--------------I think this should be our starting formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't like being a moaner but there's little to be happy about squandering a two goal lead like that; it's difficult to try and put a positive spin on things after a game that leaves such a sour taste in the mouth, Oscar's outstanding performance notwithstanding. Definitely a case of dropping two points, not gaining one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't like being a moaner but there's little to be happy about squandering a two goal lead like that; it's difficult to try and put a positive spin on things after a game that leaves such a sour taste in the mouthDon't worry, its not moaning, its reality. We really should have won the game. We were just about the better team until we took the foot off the pedal.Perhaps this formation would be good guys:----------Sturridge-----------Mata------------------Hazard----Oscar-------Ramires---------------Romeu--------------Cole-Cahill-Luiz-Ivanovic-------------Cech--------------I think this should be our starting formation.Yes, I want something like this too. Perhaps make Hazard and Mata inverted wingers though so they can cut in and have more central influence. I think 4-2-3-1 is a good system we just aren't utilising it well and our pivots are not quite strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Howcome that around 4000 Juventus fans are louder than Chelsea fans in SB?! Damn we have some shitty fans in Stamford Bridge man. Show your team some support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Did any one notice that had ramires still been on the second juve gaol might not have been. All that space and time marchisio had to give that through pass at the right of our midfield with no one to close him down was non-existent when ramires was still in the game. I believe that's the need for balance RDM always talks about. I believe in RDM because we more than held our own against a very strong team and YES without DROGBA the legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What was even more annoying was that after Mikel gave away the ball...he just stood there and watched. Really, really poor from Mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't like being a moaner but there's little to be happy about squandering a two goal lead like that; it's difficult to try and put a positive spin on things after a game that leaves such a sour taste in the mouth, Oscar's outstanding performance notwithstanding. Definitely a case of dropping two points, not gaining one.too casual imo. casual passing throughout the night. have to snap out of this slump ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 CechIvanovic Luiz Cahill ColeMikel OscarHazard Mata MarinSturridgei want to see this team play against Stoke - provided Danny's injury was just a knock and that Marin is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Howcome that around 4000 Juventus fans are louder than Chelsea fans in SB?! Damn we have some shitty fans in Stamford Bridge man. Show your team some support.It's always the away fans who are the loudest, it's always been like that. Unless it's Wigan or a similar shit team.The Fenerbahce fans in 2008 made the loudest noise I've ever heard come from inside the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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