NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Still not sure about Victor Moses but it is nice to get confirmed that Chelsea are looking for a proper Right Winger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami 6 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fulham were stacked with wingers already, so I have no idea why he was loaned to there.Coyle is and always was an idiot. The only reason Sturridge and Wilshere got chances at Bolton is due to good ol' English bias.If he is bought I feel that it would restrict other youngster too much.Dude we are not arsenal , hopping that a player who has prooven nothing will stepup suddenly is very stupid barca have a great academy but that does'nt stop them from buying top players . A few years ago wenger didn't buy xabi alonso because of denilson , now denilson plays in brazil and alonso is one of the best midfielders in the world . People laugh at arsenal about that till now dont want Chelsea to be in the same situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fulham were stacked with wingers already, so I have no idea why he was loaned to there.Coyle is and always was an idiot. The only reason Sturridge and Wilshere got chances at Bolton is due to good ol' English bias.If he is bought I feel that it would restrict other youngster too much.I've a theory about Kakuta's Fulham loan: Mark Hughes knew like every one that Carlo wouldn't end the season and because he eyes the Chelsea job for years, he probably wouldn't have offend Chelsea by refusing Kakuta. But of course, Fulham was overbooked in CAM position with Dempsey, Gera, Dembele, Andy Johnson behind Zamora.I really don't agree with you about Coyle, I rather think he's done a fantastic job.I wrote this before the boxing day, a comparison between Blackburn and Boltonhttp://mypremierleag...011/12/20/2602/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fulham were stacked with wingers already, so I have no idea why he was loaned to there.Coyle is and always was an idiot. The only reason Sturridge and Wilshere got chances at Bolton is due to good ol' English bias.If he is bought I feel that it would restrict other youngster too much.which of our youngsters can play RW? as leif said kakuta is more natural in the middleDont know about piazon, i think hes more of a LW/CAM type. Same with de bruyne although he has potential to play deeper. Lalkovic? At the moment we only have Marin, sturridge and hazard that can play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Knew the Hulk deal would have some snags or be off completely, but I thought we'd at least go after another world class player.I know Moses is a good player, but is he even in Hulks league? Seems like a massive step down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Would rather have us go for ince from blackpool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Moses embarked on 256 dribbles in the PL last season, the most by any player and only 53 fewer than Norwich City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 This could possibly be a leak to show Porto that we're not going to give into their ridiculous demands for HulkIt is very possible that at this early stage it is an intentional leak, but he could be our fall back guy and it might get serious as more time goes by without any progress with Hulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Dude we are not arsenal , hopping that a player who has prooven nothing will stepup suddenly is very stupid barca have a great academy but that does'nt stop them from buying top players . A few years ago wenger didn't buy xabi alonso because of denilson , now denilson plays in brazil and alonso is one of the best midfielders in the world . People laugh at arsenal about that till now dont want Chelsea to be in the same situationIt feels like he would be bought for the sake of being bought. I don't see the hype about this guy. Junior Hoillet on the other hand...now that is a player I wouldn't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 In a perfect world (for me), this transfer would mean Torres leaving for anything above £20mil to Juventus, Sturridge becoming our starting striker and then Lukaku + Moses being his back-up.But no, of course that won't happen. (Just remember - Sturridge was our joint-top scorer when OUT OF POSITION on the right-wing, while he got 8 goals in 12 games for Bolton as a striker. He is good enough to succeed here. He just needs a proper chance at being our main striker.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Moses embarked on 256 dribbles in the PL last season, the most by any player and only 53 fewer than Norwich City.More importantly, how many did he complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 he would be a good addition to the squad! he impressed me last season with his dribbling ability, he makes it look easy at times the way he can just ghost past players, only thing he lacks is end product and a football brain, but playing at a better club with better players, he can develop and improve that side of his game, i think he would be a very shrewd buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 More importantly, how many did he complete?95 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 95 I believe.And where does that rank him on the completed dribbles list?Even if that is high, that's no definitive indicator of him being a good player. So he might be comfortable with the ball at his feet, that's great, but what about the end product? You can beat all 11 men but if you blast it into row Z there's no real point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Knew the Hulk deal would have some snags or be off completely, but I thought we'd at least go after another world class player.I know Moses is a good player, but is he even in Hulks league? Seems like a massive step down.The Hulk deal is still ongoing, Moses isn't an alternative for our first choice right-winger. He's a young, homegrown, squad player, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 To be fair, we could get the money back straight away.Apparently all we'd have to do is give the clubs bank details and a few thousand pounds and we could get access to some Nigerians family inheritance that has billions of US dollars in. If Moses doesn't have one of these inheritances I'm sure he knows someone that does, according to my junk emails every other person in Nigeria does.It's a win win situation really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I've a theory about Kakuta's Fulham loan: Mark Hughes knew like every one that Carlo wouldn't end the season and because he eyes the Chelsea job for years, he probably wouldn't have offend Chelsea by refusing Kakuta. But of course, Fulham was overbooked in CAM position with Dempsey, Gera, Dembele, Andy Johnson behind Zamora.I really don't agree with you about Coyle, I rather think he's done a fantastic job.I wrote this before the boxing day, a comparison between Blackburn and Boltonhttp://mypremierleag...011/12/20/2602/It's a good thing I speak French otherwise I would have a lot of trouble reading that...thank god for online translators. You wrote that? Amazing, that is longer than some of novels I've read! I imagine the writing was much more attractive before it was butchered by Google.Just out of personal curiosity, it there a French team that you follow or followed in the past? I remember Peace saying he didn't care much for the Ligue 1 but he was fond of Marseille because he lived close to the city of Marseille. I'm just always curious about what teams people support in their home country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 In a perfect world (for me), this transfer would mean Torres leaving for anything above £20mil to Juventus, Sturridge becoming our starting striker and then Lukaku + Moses being his back-up.But no, of course that won't happen. (Just remember - Sturridge was our joint-top scorer when OUT OF POSITION on the right-wing, while he got 8 goals in 12 games for Bolton as a striker. He is good enough to succeed here. He just needs a proper chance at being our main striker.)no your right that wont happen! and there is a good reason why! and thats because you must be delusional if you think the European champions would go into next season with Sturridge and Lukaku as our main strikers with Moses as a back up!!! what kind of madness is that???three players, two unproven strikers at the top level and one who is not even a striker! of course its not going to happen!In an ideal world for me, i would rather we sell Sturridge, sign Moses as a back up to Ramires/Marin and sign Schurrle/Jovetic as 2nd choice striker and Lukaku as 3rd choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami 6 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It feels like he would be bought for the sake of being bought. I don't see the hype about this guy. Junior Hoillet on the other hand...now that is a player I wouldn't mind.If i am correct then hoilett is right footed and his primary poistion which means he will be very similar to marin . We have in marin, hazard , mata and maybe piazon 4 players who can play on the lw , on the other hand we have no player whose natural position is as a rw , ramires played there but he wont be effective against defensive teams so we need 2 players for the rw if we sign a right winger for a big fee moses for less than 10 mil makes sense and he is also homegrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 no your right that wont happen! and there is a good reason why! and thats because you must be delusional if you think the European champions would go into next season with Sturridge and Lukaku as our main strikers with Moses as a back up!!! what kind of madness is that???three players, two unproven strikers at the top level and one who is not even a striker! of course its not going to happen!In an ideal world for me, i would rather we sell Sturridge, sign Moses as a back up to Ramires/Marin and sign Schurrle/Jovetic as 2nd choice striker and Lukaku as 3rd choice.There's so much I could face palm at there.Ramires is a central midfielder. He was played out of position on the wing. So you want Moses, who is apparently not a striker (I assume you mean he's a winger then), to be back up to a central midfielder?You want Schurrle and Jovetic, neither of whom are strikers, as back-up strikers?Moses is unproven at the top level? He's proven in the Premier League. When was Jovetic proven?Or do you mean Sturridge, our top scoring forward this season, is unproven?Moses as back-up to Marin? You DO realise don't you that Marin IS the back-up?You want to sell our joint top goalscorer this season, top scoring forward, who's also home-grown?How on earth could you imply that I'm delusional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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