MHL 47 378 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Before some thinking that the question of poor refereeing isn't an issue and "the decisions balance themselves out over the season", don't just think about yesterday, Foy's a poor referee, always has been, always will - the issue is that we do not get a balance of decisions, it's just worse than ever this season.I've seen every minute of every league game, as well as most cup games and I'd absolutely say we get as little as they (the refs) can get get away with. They know our hierarchy won't question them openly and with the stance taken regarding Clattenburg this has made an already bad scenario worse. I've never seen a home team get so few 50/50 decisions, I've never seen a team fouled so often and often badly not have one opposition player even near being sent off. This is a real issue and until we get someone clever enough to adopt an aggressive but disguised stance against them it'll keep on going. The refs are like schoolyard bullies who'll keep on putting it to us until someone gives them a metaphorical smack on the nose.A test is for people to think generally about refereeing of us in Europe and how since Ovrebo how things have been that bit fairer - we took a stance and made it damn difficult for them to keep on shafting us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Before some thinking that the question of poor refereeing isn't an issue and "the decisions balance themselves out over the season", don't just think about yesterday, Foy's a poor referee, always has been, always will - the issue is that we do not get a balance of decisions, it's just worse than ever this season.I've seen every minute of every league game, as well as most cup games and I'd absolutely say we get as little as they (the refs) can get get away with. They know our hierarchy won't question them openly and with the stance taken regarding Clattenburg this has made an already bad scenario worse. I've never seen a home team get so few 50/50 decisions, I've never seen a team fouled so often and often badly not have one opposition player even near being sent off. This is a real issue and until we get someone clever enough to adopt an aggressive but disguised stance against them it'll keep on going. The refs are like schoolyard bullies who'll keep on putting it to us until someone gives them a metaphorical smack on the nose.A test is for people to think generally about refereeing of us in Europe and how since Ovrebo how things have been that bit fairer - we took a stance and made it damn difficult for them to keep on shafting us.Couldn't agree more!I've been barking about this situation since Jose left & why one of the many reasons why I want him back. Firstly I don't think we would of played that bad for 60 odd minutes & I would have no doubt Zabeleta would of been on at least a yellow in the first half (Foy let him get away with 2 in the first half yet Rami was booked for an innocuous challenge?) also Foy would of given us one of those poor decisions, lastly you know that Jose would of given Foy a right going over in the media & would of been beating Foy's door down after the game. It's part of why Utd keep winning as Fergie has mastered the art.Think it proves it when their was a media witch-hunt for Hazard who ironically was sent off by Foy (surprise, surprise!) to be given a lengthy ban for kicking a ball, yet Aggrorearo gets away scot free - no bias there then?! I mean ffs how can you state you've seen part of it? I've never heard such bullshit, he didn't see part of Torres shirt being pulled off his back & I suppose he only saw part of Hazards boot kicking the ball from the ball boy but that was enough - you just can't make this up. No doubt about it things are going against us since 'Clattengate', only getting someone like Jose back that has the bollocks to take on Fergie & the FA & to give the refs a few 'stealths' will we redress the balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Argh well, let's play 7 minutes & let Liverpool score from a player that should not be on the pitch (Sturridge could of gone too) 7 fucking minutes????????????Just keep ignoring this, the lot of you? Most of you don't take any notice or fucking take anything in anyway............Mark my words, you should all hope Jose returns next season because if he doesn't then we will continue to get these appalling decisions, yeah call me a bitter twat - I couldn't give a fuck but until we get a manager in to fire a rocket up these useless officials arse then we will never regain the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Accusing Clattenburg of racism is really backfiring on the club now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Argh well, let's play 7 minutes & let Liverpool score from a player that should not be on the pitch (Sturridge could of gone too) 7 fucking minutes????????????Just keep ignoring this, the lot of you? Most of you don't take any notice or fucking take anything in anyway............Mark my words, you should all hope Jose returns next season because if he doesn't then we will continue to get these appalling decisions, yeah call me a bitter twat - I couldn't give a fuck but until we get a manager in to fire a rocket up these useless officials arse then we will never regain the title.It's the only reason I want Mourinho back. He sees a conspiracy in everything and would back the boys to the fucking hilt. Sick and tired of referees having their way with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 It's the only reason I want Mourinho back. He sees a conspiracy in everything and would back the boys to the fucking hilt. Sick and tired of referees having their way with us.I suppose its each to their own regarding a Jose return but you hit the nail on the head on how he would be backing the players, think our managers have become far too soft after games & let referees off the hook, bacon face has the edge on every team because refs are shit scared of him but Jose always has his number when it comes to psychology - at least it will be a level playing field for us again if he does return, you can bet your bottom dollar the first time there is a controversial moment & we drop points he will be on these officials like a rash in the interview afterwards. Ferguson gets in the refs mind before a game too, we've had it for several seasons now with him barking about them not getting this or that against us (purpose selective memory!) Jose will fire it back so the official won't get swayed by fergie's rubbish.Obviously to mount a title challenge we have to improve in a few areas but Jose chipping away at officials will help no end & perhaps we may finally get some consistency in our game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Oh I've just heard Clattenburg will be officiating our game on Sunday, what's the betting we get the rub of the green for a change?Or maybe not!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaclouds 47 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Party Time with Clattenburg!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 It's the only reason I want Mourinho back. He sees a conspiracy in everything and would back the boys to the fucking hilt. Sick and tired of referees having their way with us.Even though Fergie can be a twat he does sometimes talk sense about refs...that and takes the attention from the result when its poorThere is no constiency these days...one mans yellow is anothers red!Having extra blokes in European games is hit and miss as well!They all miss imporant momentsDecisons shouldnt have to balance out...espically for teams who are fighting the drop or something and can be costly...like to us this season some of the weridness we've had will no doubt cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Clattenburg IS BACK@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Clattenburg should, subconsciously, be trying to show everyone that he is not treating us unfairly. Who's to bet that an 50-50 decision on Sunday goes our way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I suppose its each to their own regarding a Jose return but you hit the nail on the head on how he would be backing the players, think our managers have become far too soft after games & let referees off the hook, bacon face has the edge on every team because refs are shit scared of him but Jose always has his number when it comes to psychology - at least it will be a level playing field for us again if he does return, you can bet your bottom dollar the first time there is a controversial moment & we drop points he will be on these officials like a rash in the interview afterwards. Ferguson gets in the refs mind before a game too, we've had it for several seasons now with him barking about them not getting this or that against us (purpose selective memory!) Jose will fire it back so the official won't get swayed by fergie's rubbish.Obviously to mount a title challenge we have to improve in a few areas but Jose chipping away at officials will help no end & perhaps we may finally get some consistency in our game.Well André did try to do it, but he couldn't get the gist of that line between standing up for our players & just going a bit.. over the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 THE BALL BOY COMING BACK TOO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would like for once in a long time, not to have to be talking about how a ref was extremely shit after a game, and how the decisions he made negatively effected the game... That would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHL 47 378 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Clattenburg should, subconsciously, be trying to show everyone that he is not treating us unfairly. Who's to bet that an 50-50 decision on Sunday goes our way? Consciously or subconsciously, if my reading of Clattenburg is correct (and it's only based on his demeanour and body language), there isn't one small minute bit of one chance that he even feels contrite about what happened and any potential implications because of that.My own feeling is that he's so cocksure of himself that he'll do exactly the opposite and just like most of the others, give us the sum total of nowt.The only ref who's been decent for us this season (fair and equitable), and I'm struggling to rationalise this myself, has been Mike Dean - The rest of them have joined the 'we'll show them' club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Consciously or subconsciously, if my reading of Clattenburg is correct (and it's only based on his demeanour and body language), there isn't one small minute bit of one chance that he even feels contrite about what happened and any potential implications because of that.My own feeling is that he's so cocksure of himself that he'll do exactly the opposite and just like most of the others, give us the sum total of nowt.The only ref who's been decent for us this season (fair and equitable), and I'm struggling to rationalise this myself, has been Mike Dean - The rest of them have joined the 'we'll show them' club.Yeah I guess it depends about how he feels about that match against Manu. If he feels guilty, he'll probably make up for it, but if he feels like he's the victim, he'll try to get back at us. Let's just hope there are no major decisions to make in the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Clattenburg will get absolute pelters on Sunday. TFSW can be comforted by the fact that, on this match day at least, he will be relegated to the 2nd most unpopular figure at the Bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Make an anti-Clattenburg chant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I don't care if we were not all over them, or Kompany bottled that golden chance, or the ball milner or yaya played were awfully horrible. They had there chances mayne and they blowed them like Beliebers blow their parents hard-earn money on Bieber's concerts lol. It's a 90 minutes match, did you see that Malaga vs Dortmund game? Malaga had it in their hands but then call it undeseverdly or anything but Dortmund snatched it. Noone remembers what happens in a game, they only remember the winners.and it was a clear penalty and we would of won it after that mayne. #wegotscrewed.Statistics? Save them for the Mikel's thread mayne XD #iloveyou#keepcuttingit4choulo#koolkidzusehashtagsEDIT: I forgot to bold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I would like for once in a long time, not to have to be talking about how a ref was extremely shit after a game, and how the decisions he made negatively effected the game... That would be nice. Keep dreaming.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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