Oscar

[meetdoscar 335]

Not really. I don't think anybody would consider Luiz anywhere near one of the best footballing DMs. He's played a handful of games at DM and has had mixed results. It's possible he'd excel there with more time, but to claim that he's a top DM right now is just silly.

@the skipper. Unfortunately, Moses really hasn't been very good defensively either. He does offer us width, directness, and physicality though.

Javi martinez cost 40million and he is unproven, less talented as a footballer than liuz but is considered by many to be world class so when I say luiz is one of the best emerging footballing DM's I know wat I mean I hope you do too.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Javi martinez cost 40million and he is unproven, less talented as a footballer than liuz but is considered by many to be world class so when I say luiz is one of the best emerging footballing DM's I know wat I mean I hope you do too.

Ugh...there's no point really, but what the hell. Nobody, and I mean, nobody with any knowledge of football thinks David Luiz at this point in time is a world class defensive midfielder. Luiz has played about 5 games at the position Even if they were five fantastic games, that's not enough games to be considered a top class player. Javi Martinez has nothing to do with this discussion. He's a very good defensive midfielder for years in La Liga so he is not unproven at all. HMartinez' price tag and Luiz's quality as a defensive midfielder are not even remotely related in any way. It's like your comparing a a rhinoceros to a bag of twizzlers and saying "see!!!" No, I don't see.

[Special Juan 28,133]

Javi martinez cost 40million and he is unproven, less talented as a footballer than liuz but is considered by many to be world class so when I say luiz is one of the best emerging footballing DM's I know wat I mean I hope you do too.

Neither should be branded 'World Class' It's a tag that is used far too often and given to the majority of wrong choice of players.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Oscar has been our consistently-best player thus far in 2013. Really impressed with him. His transition into this team has been nigh-on faultless.

Yeah, but he still never had an absolute jaw dropping performance in Europe. He had very good ones, but not like he used to for Brasil (and I am not talking about shit games, I mean Argentina, etc).

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Yeah, but he still never had an absolute jaw dropping performance in Europe. He had very good ones, but not like he used to for Brasil (and I am not talking about shit games, I mean Argentina, etc).

So the best is yet to come?

[Rmpr 8,977]

So the best is yet to come?

Yes, he had better performances than the ones he put up in England.

I think his last game was up there, had he only made a couple of goals. It left a bitter feeling, I dont know...

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Yes, he had better performances than the ones he put up in England.

I think his last game was up there, had he only made a couple of goals. It left a bitter feeling, I dont know...

That's good to know

[Korea 734]

Javi martinez cost 40million and he is unproven, less talented as a footballer than liuz but is considered by many to be world class so when I say luiz is one of the best emerging footballing DM's I know wat I mean I hope you do too.

When I watch Bayern play Arsenal, I thought to myself, mang, imagine if Javi and Bastian were Chelsea two cmfs...

Yeah, but he still never had an absolute jaw dropping performance in Europe. He had very good ones, but not like he used to for Brasil (and I am not talking about shit games, I mean Argentina, etc).

Was Argentina really a game.. I mean the game was played in the Meadowlands, so I'm not sure if the game had big game implications or if it was serious at all.

Anyways, I mentioned before how I always thought Oscar was world class when I saw him play in the Olympics and that he probably has the highest peak out of any Chelsea player on the squad. If he does well in WC 2014, you can bet Barca and real madrid to be calling for him.....

[Rmpr 8,977]

Was Argentina really a game.. I mean the game was played in the Meadowlands, so I'm not sure if the game had big game implications or if it was serious at all.

Anyways, I mentioned before how I always thought Oscar was world class when I saw him play in the Olympics and that he probably has the highest peak out of any Chelsea player on the squad. If he does well in WC 2014, you can bet Barca and real madrid to be calling for him.....

No, it was a Fifa game that became a reality thanks to Tron...

I understand your concern, but two things. First, do you know anything about Brazil vs Argentina? Second, I think Oscar has already played in 4 or 5 Argentine games, so it is really vague when people talk about his performance against Argentina!

[Korea 734]

No, it was a Fifa game that became a reality thanks to Tron...

I understand your concern, but two things. First, do you know anything about Brazil vs Argentina? Second, I think Oscar has already played in 4 or 5 Argentine games, so it is really vague when people talk about his performance against Argentina!

I meant the game in New jersey......

[Rmpr 8,977]

I meant the game in New jersey......

Any game vs Argentina is a huge game, you cant imagine. Specially one with two full squads...

I actually think this wasnt his best game vs Argentina, there was another one where he just owned them. However, this was in a bigger venue, so it was surely damm important (even though we lost).

[magic weeds 446]

He has played a total of 64 games this season including friendlies with Internacional and the Olympics, which means he will end the season with 70+ games.Damn.

Does this include the number of games he played with Internacional before joining us? Remember the Brazilian league was already underway (nearly halfway into the season IIR )

[BlueLyon 9,359]

When I watch Bayern play Arsenal, I thought to myself, mang, imagine if Javi and Bastian were Chelsea two cmfs

Buy Capoue, Moutinho and you are very close to that, if not even better in some time...

[richiehawtin87 6]

This player is very overrated, mata in this season has done 10 times more than him, and barça have 10 players like him in the first team and his youth teams.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

This player is very overrated, mata in this season has done 10 times more than him, and barça have 10 players like him in the first team and his youth teams.

And how many of those ten players start regularly for their national teams?