Batman Premiere - 14 killed, 50 wounded

[Ollie 4,400]

Fucking madness, some things that happen in this world are truly mental. RIP, shocking.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Tragedy.

All members of the NRA all those who lobby to keep guns legal should feel ashamed of themselves too.

I think it's the reverse.

If it was legal non of this shit would happen.

Do you think some fool will start shooting when everyone and their momma got guns as well?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think it's the reverse.

If it was legal non of this shit would happen.

Do you think some fool will start shooting when everyone and their momma got guns as well?

The man was trying to imitate a fictional super-villain; I am willing to bet that logic isn't his strong point.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I think it's the reverse.

If it was legal non of this shit would happen.

Do you think some fool will start shooting when everyone and their momma got guns as well?

I think its more, the process of who gets them.. Guns deter many crimes in the USA, as if someone is on your property illegally you can shoot them... I just think there should be a greater screening process and all guns should require permits... Then it would lessen some of the people who just go to the shop. My Uncle lives in Texas and he goes into walmart and he says literally there are 100's of guns and bullets on the shelves or whatever. I think it would be extremely hard to Ban Guns straight away as a lot of people have them (i am assuming), which would create lots of problems for the police... Don't know the exact answer but something has got to change...

Also if everyone and "thier momma" (as you put it) have guns then there could be all sorts of problems... Take this tragic event, you could have people trying to stop this man, which could create more casulaties from all the firing coming in from different directions. And as the guy above me says, these sort of people arn't exactly logical in thier thinking process.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

The man was trying to imitate a fictional super-villain, he doesn't strike me as someone who would think logically.

Yeah but no one can defend himself at all!

If guns where legal, people would be able to defend themselves at will.

Do you think crime would sky rocket or be lower?

[Justin_3d 1,140]

I think its more, the process of who gets them.. Guns deter many crimes in the USA, as if someone is on your property illegally you can shoot them... I just think there should be a greater screening process and all guns should require permits... Then it would lessen some of the people who just go to the shop. My Uncle lives in Texas and he goes into walmart and he says literally there are 100's of guns and bullets on the shelves or whatever. I think it would be extremely hard to Ban Guns straight away as a lot of people have them (i am assuming), which would create lots of problems for the police... Don't know the exact answer but something has got to change...

Also if everyone and "thier momma" (as you put it) have guns then there could be all sorts of problems... Take this tragic event, you could have people trying to stop this man, which could create more casulaties from all the firing coming in from different directions. And as the guy above me says, these sort of people arn't exactly logical in thier thinking process.

At least I would protect myself then die with out a fight!

[Hutcho 8,443]

At least I would protect myself then die with out a fight!

And have a rain of bullets from untrained people coming in all sorts of directions in a packed theatre. Yes somebody would shoot him but what about the people around him in the crossfire. Also no one knows what they would do in that situation unless you are highly trained until you are in that situation.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

And have a rain of bullets from untrained people coming in all sorts of directions in a packed theatre. Yes somebody would shoot him but what about the people around him in the crossfire. Also no one knows what they would do in that situation unless you are highly trained until you are in that situation.

This is why when you make guns legal people should take courses before issuing one.

But when it all comes down to it, if things like this happens there is nothing else to do but run away or die....I want another option!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Yeah but no one can defend himself at all!

If guns where legal, people would be able to defend themselves at will.

Do you think crime would sky rocket or be lower?

I think their would be shootings and people getting killed right left and center. Guns would be too tempting to the human "dark" nature or as Freud called it the death instinct in humans.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

I think their would be shootings and people getting killed right left and center. Guns would be too tempting to the human "dark" nature or as Freud called it the death instinct in humans.

I think their should be a study and look into how crime was when guns where more available like in the wild west compare to today.

I am sure where guns was more free crime actually was less.

Crime will always exist, but it's all about minimizing it.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Yeah but no one can defend himself at all!

If guns where legal, people would be able to defend themselves at will.

Do you think crime would sky rocket or be lower?

State firearms laws are extremely unrestricted, even with federal guards, state police (and such) are not legally obliged to enforce such regulations. The federal government aren't too keen in getting involved in state matters to much aswell.

People kill people, but the fact that Americans are allowed these tools with such ease inevitably entails dangerous possibilities. Look at the present case, circumstances may insofar arise in the most unexpected circumstances. The right to "bear arms" is just an exploited relic. As long as the certain members of the public see it as there right to carry a loaded firearm whenever and wherever they want, there will continue to be tragedies. So many films and programs glorify guns and gun culture it is inexorable that a few of these viewers could seek to follow the example of them. Their are many roots but being allowed to carry guns wouldn't help. Besides look at the statistics, USA gun crimes are through the roof the comparison to the UK for example, where any notion of carrying guns seems criminal and archaic. I'd hate to walk around the streets thinking that citizen's are carrying guns, trifling squabbles can escalate can become life or death mattes by the presence of a gun.

I think their should be a study and look into how crime was when guns where more available like in the wild west compare to today.

I am sure where guns was more free crime actually was less.

Crime will always exist, but it's all about minimizing it.

Do you how worthless lives value were in the "wild-west"? Bounty hunters thrived, mortality rates were disgustingly high and life expectancy was ridiculously low.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think their should be a study and look into how crime was when guns where more available like in the wild west compare to today.

I am sure where guns was more free crime actually was less.

Crime will always exist, but it's all about minimizing it.

Yes, but I can give you a counter-example of a couple of areas here in Lebanon where everyone has guns and people get killed regularly in small personal fights.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Yes, but I can give you a counter-example of a couple of areas here in Lebanon where everyone has guns and people get killed regularly in small personal fights.

Your argument makes more sense then guy above me!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I think their should be a study and look into how crime was when guns where more available like in the wild west compare to today.

I am sure where guns was more free crime actually was less.

No. This is NRA propaganda. Guns don't kill people on their own, they just make it much much easier to kill and to kill many more people. Not only that, but it lets disagreements which would be fist-fights in other countries, to turn into shootouts.The murder rate in the US vastly higher than any other Western country. Other Western countries are in the 0.50-1.60 murders 100, 000 people. The US is is at around 5 which is 3-10X higher. (Not saying gun ownership is the sole reason, a sense of individualism, a gun-loving culture, hopeless poverty, as well as people actually carrying around guns in public contribute to this.) It is statistically irrefutable that more guns lead to more murders. (And logical besides. There will always be lunatics, but a lunatic with a knife or a baseball bat is generally is going to do a lot less damage than a lunatic with a gun.)

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Your argument makes more sense then guy above me!

How does what I said not make sense? care to elaborate.

[gary gordon 1,777]

Tragedy.

All members of the NRA all those who lobby to keep guns legal should feel ashamed of themselves too.

Let's not get into this. More people die from lung cancer caused by cigarettes then by guns. If it's your time to go, it's your time to go.. RIP