LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Whereas I find it baffling that because he's played less than 200mins as a lone striker, that deems hims 'good enough' to be starting up front for us. He's unproven and a club like Chelsea isn't exactly known for being a proving ground for young players.Dwight Yorke made some excellent points regarding Sturridge after yesterdays game. Both he and Ray Wilkins agreed that he's not ready to be a lone striker, even if he thinks he is. Yorke argued that as a young player, you take what you're given in terms of chances in the team, even if it was out wide. He said he himself hated playing out wide, even if he thought it didn't suit his game, but he did it anyway to build himself a reputation and become an established member of the team. Thierry Henry was the same. This is where my problem with Sturridge lies. He was dropped by Di Matteo and Benitez because he didn't work hard enough on the wings (i'm assuming here, obviously we'll never know for sure) because he was so sure that out wide was not where he belongs. His insistence on being a centre forward (let's call it naive ambition) seems to be his undoing, when the managers that he's played under obviously don't think he's ready. Wilkins said that even when he was at the club with Carlo, Sturridge insisted that he was ready to challenge both Drogba and Anelka as the lone striker. Carlo thought that he was better suited to the wings, obviously to this day he still disagrees, despite being a decent player for us (at times) under AVB. If he'd have worked on his game out wide, perhaps he would've eventually got game time up front. The obvious example of this is Theo Walcott, who has had to wait for his chance, but is now getting it and is making strides.The problem is that there has always been a better player in front of him in the squad up front and he has done nothing out wide at Chelsea to prove that he deserves to be a lone striker. Perhaps this season would've been different, he's been injured and hasn't been able to play as much, even though we only have one other striker. He probably knew that we'd buy another striker in January anyway, and, with his contract coming to an end, it seems like a good time for him to leave. Sometimes it just doesn't work out for players in football, and it's obvious that this is the case with Sturridge.Might not agree, but I do prefer these responses to the plain he was rubbish & he'll never be good. You make an excellent point about his desire to play striker being a deterrence from him being anywhere near the squad. Though I recall he did clarify many times he was simply happy to be playing, I'm sure he didn't graciously accept that as Anelka did when Drogba came back into the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The Daniel Studge's arrogant/cocky persona that the media have given him topped with the CFC fans that have believed that is mind boggling. The Skipper and LDN Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 ...And there lies the problem for Sturridge. He's rated highly and looks bright when he plays - he was probably Chelsea's best player against MSK Zilina on Tuesday - but he spends most of his time on the bench. He has made just three Premier League starts for the club and, while he is not stupid enough to start kicking up a fuss, you can sense a degree of frustration.Just champion: Daniel Sturridge scores against MSK Zilina'I'm at the age when I want to be starting. I'm not saying the manager needs to oust other players to get me in but I need to be playing more often. It's important at a young age to be playing regularly because that's how you learn to play the game.'When you're coming off the bench it's difficult to get into the pace of the game and do well. I don't want to be branded a super-sub. I'd rather be branded a super-starter.'It's quite frustrating but you have to find a way of dealing with that because you're not going to get everything your own way. The opportunities will come.'Look at Gareth Bale. He's doing amazingly but it wasn't so long ago people were talking about how he hadn't won a game. That's from the conf idence of playing regularly.'For the moment, Sturridge can still be classed a young player. But in a year or two, you would argue, he needs to be fulfilling his potential - even if that means doing what he doesn't want to do and leaving Chelsea. Swansea tried to take him on loan this week but Sturridge isn't interested, for now.'If the opportunities don't come in due time, obviously I will have to look elsewhere,' he adds. 'Because it is only a matter of time until you get frustrated. But you have to be patient at a club like Chelsea. 'Going out on loan doesn't always do you good. It could be better to stay and work hard because it will then feel so much better when you do get your chance.'I want to be a regular at Chelsea - not anywhere else. I believe I am able to start games for Chelsea. I've spoken to the manager about getting opportunities.'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1333077/Daniel-Sturridge-Im-like-players-.html#ixzz2G0i5SiHkInterview from around the time, which is what I was saying. He was well within his right to ask for more chances. Obviously because it is Sturridge it somehow turns to monster bastard Sturridge demands he plays CF over Drogba. Apparently it's a crime to have self-belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Interview from around the time, which is what I was saying. He was well within his right to ask for more chances. Obviously because it is Sturridge it somehow turns to monster bastard Sturridge demands he plays CF over Drogba. Apparently it's a crime to have self-belief.Mate you have a huge degree of paranoia when it comes to Sturridge. There've been murmurs about Sturridge's arrogance, Wilkins basically confirmed that yesterday about not wanting to play a wider role (I watched it for myself now, so know it's not twitter lies). If you can't see it, then there's no use arguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Mate you have a huge degree of paranoia when it comes to Sturridge. There've been murmurs about Sturridge's arrogance, Wilkins basically confirmed that yesterday about not wanting to play a wider role (I watched it for myself now, so know it's not twitter lies). If you can't see it, then there's no use arguingI am convinced that if you play Torres on a wider role , he will immediately leave Chelsea,because that isn´t his real position.I also would be angry at Chelsea,if Chelsea would not allow me to reach my full potential and that is the reason why Sturridge is angry.He is still young,but other players like Welbeck got more chances to play as a CF at United than Sturridge got at Chelsea .Sturridge is a very good striker.I have seen him playing at Bolton and he was good,really good.We don´t give young players the chances they deserve and I expect that Feruz,Lukaku,Josh McEachran and Piazon to leave us after two or three years and the reason why they will leave us is that they did not get the chances to show their potential at Chelsea.Our managers give a shit about young players.Only Pep would give players like Josh McEachran a chance,because Joshy would fit perfectly in his system.Jose Mourinho,Carlo,AVB and RDM did not give the young players the chance to be a Chelsea player and that makes me really sad.Sorry for my english.I am still trying to learn English at school haha The Skipper and Joker10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I don't exactly get why some people are so satisfied that Sturridge is leaving? Yes, perhaps he wasn't a world class player but the certain notion that he was an "arrogant, cocky player who demanded to play up front" is ridiculous. He is a decent young player with bags of ability as he showed last season where he was our top goal scorer in the league despite 1) playing out wide and 2) sporadically playing in the second half of the season.This false imaginary thought that he isn't good enough to play up front (even though he's never in a CFC first team shirt had a prolonged time as a CF) is ridiculous. Everyone seems to forget that for his whole life he's played up front, through his youth playing days all the way up to when he first broke through at City. Of course he's going to have a preference of playing up front. Fact is, over his career, whenever he's played up front he's produced. It's not that people want him as our main striker (don't even know why anyone would think that) it's just about the fact that people want to see him been given a chance up front for a prolonged period! (That doesn't mean 2 starts and 10 minutes here and there at the end of a game). Fact remains that Sturridge never had a chance at CFC, and that's why certain people are sad, because he was a good player with a lot of potential. I'm happy for Danny, as I think he'll finally have a platform to produce at at Liverpool. £12m is a decent deal for both sides. Hopefully he won't come back to haunt us. LDN Blue and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Mate you have a huge degree of paranoia when it comes to Sturridge. There've been murmurs about Sturridge's arrogance, Wilkins basically confirmed that yesterday about not wanting to play a wider role (I watched it for myself now, so know it's not twitter lies). If you can't see it, then there's no use arguingSo, if you've played as a striker for your whole life, and suddenly got played out wide, wouldn't you be a little bit annoyed? Also, Wilkins might have said whatever, but did he ever say Sturridge was arrogant about it? Prove that to me. It's imaginary in your head, the media have passively put it in your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Tung 3 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sturridge leave chelsea.I am feeling a bit sad but I think it's good for himGood luck to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm not assuming he is arrogant from the media. He moaned when people didn't pass to him, he would storm off the pitch when we lost, he rarely applauded fans at away games and if he did it looked unwilling, he would try stupid flicks and tricks when we were losingI'm not saying I hate him but I find it difficult for people to say it was just the media that made him seem arrogant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWhite&BLUE 37 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm mainly sad because he's English and it's disappointing when that type of English talent leaves. Moses has been a delight as a player this season so that lessens the blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Almost looking forward to when he leaves so we can get a real Striker in. Backstreet09 and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Actually rated this lad but its prob been said already that he is far too selfish at times & for me I think he needs to open up his ears to start listening to his coaches to realize his potential.Wish him well in his career but obviously not when he plays against us! Corner and Green Lantern18 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Actually rated this lad but its prob been said already that he is far too selfish at times & for me I think he needs to open up his ears to start listening to his coaches to realize his potential.Wish him well in his career but obviously not when he plays against us!Spot on. He has so much potential, but his attitude has always let him down. He seems to think he is 'good enough' already, which means he's not going to work hard every day in training to improve his game. I mean, Messi and Ronaldo are still trying to find ways to improve their game. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Spot on. He has so much potential, but his attitude has always let him down. He seems to think he is 'good enough' already, which means he's not going to work hard every day in training to improve his game. I mean, Messi and Ronaldo are still trying to find ways to improve their game.Exactly, was listening to a pundit the other day think it was Collymore, who said he needs to prove himself as a footballer (I think he was referring that he has to play well were he was picked on a consistent basis) first before he starts demanding to play were he wants, I couldn't of said it any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I get really upset reading people who say that Danny has an attitude problem, that he is selfish and whatnot.Fact is you guys dont know shit about him. The biggest reason why he didnt get a chance is because we had a 50m blondie that the board insisted on giving trust. And this will show when he becomes a regular in Liverpool. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I get really upset reading people who say that Danny has an attitude problem, that he is selfish and whatnot.Fact is you guys dont know shit about him. The biggest reason why he didnt get a chance is because we had a 50m blondie that the board insisted on giving trust. And this will show when he becomes a regular in Liverpool.We don't know much about him, but it's not hard to read between the lines. All we can do is speculate. Just like you saying that the biggest reason he didn't get a chance here is because the board insisted on playing Torres, it's just speculation. But there is evidence there to support that too. So you're probably right about that. I'm sure it was one of the reasons. But you can never know if it was the biggest reason, like you said.And if he does become a regular at Liverpool, that doesn't mean he was good enough to be a regular for Chelsea. Lukaku is good enough to challenge for a starting spot at West Brom at the moment but he's not good enough to challenge for that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 People still think he is winger and that he is selfish...he is striker and needs to shoot to score. He had few chances to prove himself and he wants to prove by scoring goals. Sure you cant score easy if you dont get few games in row. Danny was never realy given chance under Rdm or Rafa. He can never be good sub, but with enough chances given, Im sure he will turn into great striker. I cant believe Torres was getting chance after chance and he was still shit, but Danny left on bench. Cant blame him for leaving. He was never realy Chelsea heart player, so he doesnt care where will he play. BUT I hate our board for selling him to Lpool. And I hate the boar even more for not getting more money of the transfer. Danny just isnt worth only 12mio. Yes he only has 6 months on contract, but he is English, 23years old and its winter. Ffs Lpool spend milions on Downing, Henderson and Caroll, yet we sell Danny for cheapest price and in the end, only he will fullfill the potential. I can see him shine at Lpool.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Almost looking forward to when he leaves so we can get a real Striker in.Yeah, because he's played so many times and has been so crap! Because he was definitely taking up a valuable space as our number one striker! Because its all his fault we haven't got a "real" striker at the club! /sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Exactly, was listening to a pundit the other day think it was Collymore, who said he needs to prove himself as a footballer (I think he was referring that he has to play well were he was picked on a consistent basis) first before he starts demanding to play were he wants, I couldn't of said it any better.Firstly, Collymore is a terrible pundit. Secondly, he hasn't been "demanding" anything. Again a figment of your imagination. Find me an article where it says he needs to play as a striker or he'll leave or sabotage the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah, because he's played so many times and has been so crap! Because he was definitely taking up a valuable space as our number one striker! Because its all his fault we haven't got a "real" striker at the club! /sarcasm.In the end I win because he's on his way out. U mad? /Ownage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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