The Boxing Thread

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Mayweather - best boxer ever? Discuss. (10 marks)

Best of his era yes. The best ever? No.

[bababoom 4,478]

Mayweather masterclass, completely outboxed Canelo.

You know, i wish we had the chance to watch Mayweather vs Pacquiao (In his prime), would of been one hell of a fight.

[dave30 728]

Mayweather masterclass, completely outboxed Canelo.

You know, i wish we had the chance to watch Mayweather vs Pacquiao (In his prime), would of been one hell of a fight.

Is there any specific reason why it never happened, or just all the bureaucracy/ finance involved?

[bababoom 4,478]

Is there any specific reason why it never happened, or just all the bureaucracy/ finance involved?

It seemed like Mayweather didn't want to fight Pacquiao, his team kept on demanding that he takes a blood test before the fight as they 'believed' he was on performing enhancing drugs.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Mayweather - best boxer ever? Discuss. (10 marks)

No Chance!!! he has ducked too many fighters!

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Glad Danny Garcia won last night not only did i have £20 on him to win by UD but he has never got the credit he deserves! i hope he finally gets some respect now!

[jmarlow 458]

The Catchweight king Mayweather wins again! what a joke he is! when will he stop ducking the best fighters and why make a catchweight against Canelo? the guy is a fraud and so many people buy into the hype! he ducked Pacquiao, Paul Williams, Martinez & Margarito to name a few he ducked fighting De La Hoya and Mosley at their best! he even made Hatton go up in weight to fight him! now he weight drains Canelo and people seem to think he is the GOAT!!! Ridiculous!

I Hope Golovkin comes down to 154 to Challenge Floyd but May will obviously duck GGG as he knows he will get brutally KO'd against him!

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

The Catchweight king Mayweather wins again! what a joke he is! when will he stop ducking the best fighters and why make a catchweight against Canelo? the guy is a fraud and so many people buy into the hype! he ducked Pacquiao, Paul Williams, Martinez & Margarito to name a few he ducked fighting De La Hoya and Mosley at their best! he even made Hatton go up in weight to fight him! now he weight drains Canelo and people seem to think he is the GOAT!!! Ridiculous!

I Hope Golovkin comes down to 154 to Challenge Floyd but May will obviously duck GGG as he knows he will get brutally KO'd against him!

yeah, canelo lost cause he was exhausted from the weight cut, floyd haters are funny

[Blue Warrior 109]

Floyd needs to test himself more, respect to his skills though. The matchup with Pacman is all about drug testing. Did not realise both men were such scientists.

[jmarlow 458]

yeah, canelo lost cause he was exhausted from the weight cut, floyd haters are funny

It clearly was a factor! Canelo struggled to make weight! Which affected his preparation for the fight! Canelo didn't have his usual snap in his punches and clearly didn't look as good physically as he did against Trout!

Mayweather said when fighting Cotto that he made that fight at 154 because he wants his opponents to feel comfortable and fight at their best weight! Then he makes Canelo fight at 152!!! What a joke!

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

It clearly was a factor! Canelo struggled to make weight! Which affected his preparation for the fight! Canelo didn't have his usual snap in his punches and clearly didn't look as good physically as he did against Trout!

Mayweather said when fightjng Cotto that he made that fight at 154 because he wants his opponents to feel comfortable and fight at their best weight! Then he makes Canelo fight at 152!!! What a joke!

You do realize that that the catch-weight if anything was an advantage for Canelo. Floyd is a natural welterweight and is best at 147 right now. Canelo at 154. Surely a catchweight of 152 is fair. Canelo had him by 15lbs on fight night and you're still saying he was marginalized due to his weight? Btw Canelo weighed in at 153 against Trout and 152 vs. Mayweather, he had no problem making weight for both fights.

[jmarlow 458]

You do realize that that the catch-weight if anything was an advantage for Canelo. Floyd is a natural welterweight and is best at 147 right now. Canelo at 154. Surely a catchweight of 152 is fair. Canelo had him by 15lbs on fight night and you're still saying he was marginalized due to his weight? Btw Canelo weighed in at 153 against Trout and 152 vs. Mayweather, he had no problem making weight for both fights.

Are you serious? How on earth was the catch weight an advantage for Canelo??? It was a huge disadvantage! Canelo is still growing and is pretty much a middleweight now! And Floyd is draining him down to 152! Now how is that an advantage for Canelo?

Losing those extra 2 pounds has a big affect on a fighter! He has no body fat so that 2 pounds isn't fat that he lost but 2 pound of muscle! So how can that be advantageous to Canelo?

Canelo will start fighting at 160 very soon and then move onto super middleweight! 152 pounds Is a step too far for Canelo! And Floyd isn't stupid that's why he made sure this fight wasn't going to be at 154!

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Pacquiao would have had no chance against Floyd. Look how much trouble Marquez gives to Pacquiao and Mayweather is a similar style boxer but much better in all aspects.

Are you serious? How on earth was the catch weight an advantage for Canelo??? It was a huge disadvantage! Canelo is still growing and is pretty much a middleweight now! And Floyd is draining him down to 152! Now how is that an advantage for Canelo?

Losing those extra 2 pounds has a big affect on a fighter! He has no body fat so that 2 pounds isn't fat that he lost but 2 pound of muscle! So how can that be advantageous to Canelo?

Canelo will start fighting at 160 very soon and then move onto super middleweight! 152 pounds Is a step too far for Canelo! And Floyd isn't stupid that's why he made sure this fight wasn't going to be at 154!

He made 153 for Trout and he made 152 for Mayweather and said he had no problem at all. Not sure why you think it was such a huge disadvantage. Why should Mayweather move up to 154? That's even more stupid. You want a guy who walks around at 146 to fight at 154? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why not just ask him to fight heavyweights?

[jmarlow 458]

He made 153 for Trout and he made 152 for Mayweather and said he had no problem at all. Not sure why you think it was such a huge disadvantage. Why should Mayweather move up to 154? That's even more stupid. You want a guy who walks around at 146 to fight at 154? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why not just ask him to fight heavyweights?

Why should Mayweather move up to 154? Err maybe because he holds a title at 154!!!!!! The belt he won off Cotto! Damn do you even know what your talking about? Mayweather fought De la Hoya and Cotto at 154 and held the WBA light middleweight title going into this fight! But decided not to fight Canelo at the weight he has fought at twice before and the weight he holds a title at! Instead he decided to drain Canelo! SMH

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Why should Mayweather move up to 154? Err maybe because he holds a title at 154!!!!!! The belt he won off Cotto! Damn do you even know what your talking about? Mayweather fought De la Hoya and Cotto at 154 and held the WBA light middleweight title going into this fight! But decided not to fight Canelo at the weight he has fought at twice before and the weight he holds a title at! Instead he decided to drain Canelo! SMH

Even when he moved up to that weight, he still always weighed in way below the limit. The fact is he isn't a natural 154. Canelo is huge. He had 15lbs on Mayweather on fight night and yet you still seem to think that he was marginalized by his weight.

The weight didn't have near as much difference, if at all, as you make it out to be. Canelo lost because Mayweather was the better boxer in every aspect, not because Canelo didn't have 25lbs on him instead of 15lbs. Give me a break. Weight is not the excuse.

[jmarlow 458]

Even when he moved up to that weight, he still always weighed in way below the limit. The fact is he isn't a natural 154. Canelo is huge. He had 15lbs on Mayweather on fight night and yet you still seem to think that he was marginalized by his weight.

The weight didn't have near as much difference, if at all, as you make it out to be. Canelo lost because Mayweather was the better boxer in every aspect, not because Canelo didn't have 25lbs on him instead of 15lbs. Give me a break. Weight is not the excuse.

I'm not even saying weight is the reason why Canelo lost! Mayweather was always going to outbox him! But you don't understand how those 2 pounds gave Mayweather an advantage! Why does Floyd need to drain those extra 2 pounds off him? He always has to get the advantage that's why! The fight would have been way more competitive had it been at 154 and Floyd knew that!

[jmarlow 458]

No fighter between 140-154 gives Mayweather a tougher fight than Pacquiao! Shame it will never happen!

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

No fighter between 140-154 gives Mayweather a tougher fight than Pacquiao! Shame it will never happen!

Mayweather will do twice as better as Marquez against Pacquiao imo if compare it stylistically. It would be a great fight for sure, but I don't see any other outcome than a Mayweather win.