Closed Seattle Sounders Vs Chelsea

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Fun first half and good to see the lads get their running in, but the overreactions to individual performances are insane. Pre-season matches are all about fitness, the games themselves are meaningless and players' individual performances are pretty close to that. There is no correlation between pre-season performance and in-season performance. Judging a player's quality based on 45 minutes in a pre-season match is ridiculous. You need at least 5-10 matches into the season before you can really start to form a decent first impression of a player and even that is premature. The games are interesting to watch to try to see what kind of qualities new players might bring and because we're all excited to see Chelsea again.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Fun first half and good to see the lads get their running in, but the overreactions to individual performances are insane. Pre-season matches are all about fitness, the games themselves are meaningless and players' individual performances are pretty close to that. There is no correlation between pre-season performance and in-season performance. Judging a player's quality based on 45 minutes in a pre-season match is ridiculous. You need at least 5-10 matches into the season before you can really start to form a decent first impression of a player and even that is premature. The games are interesting to watch to try to see what kind of qualities new players might bring and because we're all excited to see Chelsea again.

How is it overreacting? a couple players did very well, it doesn't matter if it's preseason or not, a good performance is a good performance. And against a side who were clearly fitter than us.

And saying there's no correlation between preseason and in season performance is just not accurate.

They need to be playing well in games like these to properly prepare for the new season.

[Jase 43,479]

That video highlights I posted has been taken down. Found another one here..

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs944t_seattle-sounders-chelsea-footyroom-com_animals

[Emmanuelpee 12]

Cant w8 for the start of the season

[JDY 1,290]

Fun first half and good to see the lads get their running in, but the overreactions to individual performances are insane. Pre-season matches are all about fitness, the games themselves are meaningless and players' individual performances are pretty close to that. There is no correlation between pre-season performance and in-season performance. Judging a player's quality based on 45 minutes in a pre-season match is ridiculous. You need at least 5-10 matches into the season before you can really start to form a decent first impression of a player and even that is premature. The games are interesting to watch to try to see what kind of qualities new players might bring and because we're all excited to see Chelsea again.

There's no harm in stating whether a player played well or not. Seems you're the one overreacting.

"Pre-season matches are all about fitness, the games themselves are meaningless and players' individual performances are pretty close to that."

I'm sure the likes of Lukaku, McEachran, Kevin De Bruyne, and others will disagree.

[Jase 43,479]

RDM's post-match reaction and he also said that Cole has joined up with the squad.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Tour_News/0,,10268~2853463,00.html

Roberto Di Matteo said we achieved everything he hopes for in our first tour game of the summer, a 4-2 win in Seattle.

Romelu Lukaku struck his first Chelsea goals, and was joined in the record books by debutants Eden Hazard and Marko Marin, who both enjoyed a lively first 45 minutes against a more match-fit Sounders side.

'It's good for them in their first game for their new club,' Di Matteo said of the new boys. 'It was good to have a good understanding with their new tem-mates and I am pleased with the match today. We got out of it what we were looking for so it's been a good evening. We didn't get any injuries, so it's so far so good.

'We were looking for a good work out, and we saw some good possession and combination play, integrating new players and seeing our younger talents in the club that will hopefully be the future.

'Hazard is a verstatile player, he can play in the role he played tonight but also out wide. Last season we didn't have too many options in the role he played tonight apart from Juan, so it's great for the club and the team to have different options.'

The manager was also pleased with Lukaku, the only striker in the matchday squad, who lasted just over an hour.

'It's interesting to see him playing with the team,' he said. 'We've had a talk at the start of pre-season and I'm very keen to see him perform for us, then we will see what's going to happen. He is a danger and scores goals. That's what a striker has to do in the team.

'We still have Fernando and Sturridge to come back but we have options and we can't forget he is a young boy but I have been pleased and he is an interesting player for us.'

Di Matteo also confirmed Ashley Cole has joined up with the squad in Seattle, while the remaining Euro 2012 players will be catching up with us on the east coast.

'We are looking forward to getting all our players back. We still have seven missing, the four in the Olympic teams and the three still missing, so we are looking forward to having everybody back and it feels more like the Chelsea we hopefully have for the season.

'I've known JT for a long time and he has those leadership qualities within the dressing room and we are looking forward to having him back with us as soon as possible. He will be back with us on the east coast.'

So, as the manager says, so far so good. Our next test will be with former friend Carlo Ancelotti in New York. Bring it on.

[manpe 10,857]

Negatives:

1. Dodgy defending. The first goal especially is just pure sloppyness from Ivanovic.

McEachran*

[Jase 43,479]

McEachran*

Oops. Just realized that. Thought it was Ivanovic all along.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

How much is Hazard again?!

32m? What a bargain! Cheap as fuck!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

How is it overreacting? a couple players did very well, it doesn't matter if it's preseason or not, a good performance is a good performance. And against a side who were clearly fitter than us.

And saying there's no correlation between preseason and in season performance is just not accurate.

They need to be playing well in games like these to properly prepare for the new season.

There is no correlation. McEachran was our best player last pre-season and he had a lost season. Malouda played well in the pre-season and he was probably our worst player during the year. Mata was our best player and didn't even play in pre-season. The leading scorer for Man City in last' year's World Football Challenge was Wright-Phillips. Fredrico Mechada had two goals for ManU. It just doesn't mean anything. When people say "so and so had a good or bad game" that's normal and fine, it's the making generalizations on the overall quality of a player based on pre-season matches which is ridiculous.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Does anyone have a download? I was at work so missed this game.

Steve's uploaded

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14052-downloads-seattle-sounders-v-chelsea/page__pid__462315#entry462315

[Steve 10,227]

Download of game in downloads section.

[royg 96]

Positives from the new guys and some of our young lads! :blue scalf:

Hazard - Very good in dribbling and balance. Will be an exciting season for CFC having such a wonderful player.

Marin - Very pacey and good in dribbling though he looks like he wants to impress RDM but little bit selfish in some moment but very good overall performance

KDB - Bit unlucky but i see him a good fit for deep-lying playmaker rather than a wide player.

Josh - With his 2 assists is great and his error will do him so well that he will be more careful next time.

Hutch - Solid at the back... maybe a 4th string CB for him

Todd Kane - Very impressive IMO. he will be good for the future if not given oppty this season

Piazon - He showed some good movement, maybe if he could play at his regular wide roll will do some more good.

Overall it was good 1st game performance for the young lads!

[GoranZg 56]

Few short notes from the match (the way I saw things)

- Lukaku is new Drogba, boy just needs a proper chance. We don't need Cavani or anyone else. The boy should stay as an alternative to Torres.

- Hazard will prove himself as a great buy

- Marin is quick as lightning, has a good tehnique too, but is a bit selfish

- McEachran is ready to be included in the first team. Chalobah too

- All we need is right winger. Lucas, perhaps, as 90% of our actions are coming from the left. We're too predictable

- Luiz is developing into top world defender

- We ain't gonna win shit this season, but there is a exciting future ahead of us

[Sheva. 5,373]

There is no correlation. McEachran was our best player last pre-season and he had a lost season. Malouda played well in the pre-season and he was probably our worst player during the year. Mata was our best player and didn't even play in pre-season. The leading scorer for Man City in last' year's World Football Challenge was Wright-Phillips. Fredrico Mechada had two goals for ManU. It just doesn't mean anything. When people say "so and so had a good or bad game" that's normal and fine, it's the making generalizations on the overall quality of a player based on pre-season matches which is ridiculous.

Alright, you gave a few good examples, but i'm sure there's just as many about players who were good in preseason and went on to have good seasons.

One that immediately comes to my mind is Benzema. He scored a lot in preseason last year, and went on to score 30+ goals last season.

Now, i know having a good/bad preseason does not necessarily mean that will be the case when the proper season starts, but as a player you want to do well in preseason, impress the manager and carry that good form/momentum into the new season.

[Billy. 2,739]

just seen some highlights looked good Lukaku is a beast Hazards gonna be a star

[didierforever 7,349]

Few short notes from the match (the way I saw things)

- Lukaku is new Drogba, boy just needs a proper chance. We don't need Cavani or anyone else. The boy should stay as an alternative to Torres.

- Hazard will prove himself as a great buy

- Marin is quick as lightning, has a good tehnique too, but is a bit selfish

- McEachran is ready to be included in the first team. Chalobah too

- All we need is right winger. Lucas, perhaps, as 90% of our actions are coming from the left. We're too predictable

- Luiz is developing into top world defender

- We ain't gonna win shit this season, but there is a exciting future ahead of us

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[chelseaAus 73]

Few short notes from the match (the way I saw things)

- Lukaku is new Drogba, boy just needs a proper chance. We don't need Cavani or anyone else. The boy should stay as an alternative to Torres.

- Hazard will prove himself as a great buy

- Marin is quick as lightning, has a good tehnique too, but is a bit selfish

- McEachran is ready to be included in the first team. Chalobah too

- All we need is right winger. Lucas, perhaps, as 90% of our actions are coming from the left. We're too predictable

- Luiz is developing into top world defender

- We ain't gonna win shit this season, but there is a exciting future ahead of us

Lukaku is nothing like drogba he doesn't offer as a target man often enough no where near as good in the air or first touch. He needs a solid loan before starting for us.

I think when Juan Mata comes back that we will we have a lot of variation in attack with mata and hazard roaming it wont matter what wing we decide to attack from.

How can you say we ain't gonna win shit this season... because last season we weren't ment to win the champions league oh wait we did....