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I hate Eden Hazard because he hasn't already scored 200 goals for Chelsea and he because was bought for £32 million and because other people like him and because other people hate him and because he h

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I agree he is overhyped somewhat. But you make a good point in reserving your judgement until we have a proper forward leading the line. Because Hazard has literally had all the pressure on him to be the inspirational player for us, in the absence of a Drogba to stick the ball into the net. That pressure might be too much for a young man in only his second season in the Premier League.

Wished we kept Mata, He was more consistent. You we need someone like a Mata to be your 'everyday best player' Hazard can then play like a star once every 10 games and we'd be good enough to win some trophies

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To me, hazard is misused.

What we are seeing is an AM, forced to play on the wings because he has speed.

The mentality of a winger (mertens, schurrle, robben, griezman) and the mentality of AM's (hazard, ozil, gotze) are 2 different things.

Hazard and ozil have had similar dull tournaments because they are all playing in the wings most of the time. They need runners around them and they need to be in the centre of action touching the ball most of the time. I just feel because he has speed, we assumed his speed is best utilized in the wings where he has space. But I tell you the mentality to want to run at the fullback with the ball and make runs off the ball expecting a pass into space is the most important thing for a winger. Hazard doesn't have this mentality, he has a linkup, one-two, creative mentality and I think he should be played in the centre. In fact, the stats that showed he created over 80 chances last season should make this more obvious.

Mourinho did a good job of motivating him last season, but even last season, games like against fulham summed him up. First half he is secluded in the wings away from action, then second half he starts taking a free role moving more to the centre and ends up creating 2 goals.

He should move to the centre IMO, he'll be in a more natural position for him.

I'm not so sure about it. I'm sure he'd do a better job than Oscar as the CAM, but I'm not sure he'd be any better than he is on the wing for the club. To be a great CAM a player needs to have superior passing skills and vision--reading the game, awareness of his surroundings and the ability to make himself available when he doesn't have the ball--which is not that easy, because it's easier to surround the CAM than a winger. Dribbling past defenders and DMs is harder in the centre, so it's not a solution. I'm not at all sure that he'd create more chances playing as the 10. Yes, Eden would touch the ball more, but playing in the centre doesn't necessarily equal creating more chances.

He's very good on the wing. The fact that he created so many chances playing on the wing demonstrates that he's on the right position. He just needs to be more involved and make more runs.

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From hero to zero in 2 weeks, get a grip folks.

As he is our best player it is normal really to get hyped as soon as he does any sort of positive impact on the pitch even though cutting back for 2 tap ins aren't really that amazing. In truth he had a terrible WC and never really influenced any Belgium game this WC as expected of him. In fact he was so bad that Wilmot even replaced him during the final mins of Argentina match, suggesting he doesn't trust him to bail them out.

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From hero to zero in 2 weeks, get a grip folks.

I thought the Belgians out of everyone would have been the most disappointed at his performance. He is still our best player and that hasnt changed but if you cant motivate yourself to play well at the world cup for your country then people will criticise.

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I thought the Belgians out of everyone would have been the most disappointed at his performance. He is still our best player and that hasnt changed but if you cant motivate yourself to play well at the world cup for your country then people will criticise.

I'm very disappointed mate. And he most definately deserves criticism... I was aiming at our 'fans' calling him overrated after being one of our best players for 2 years.

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I can't wait to see him back playing for us again. I don't rate Wilmots at all. The Belgian team HAS to at least play a bit better than that with all that talent.

Hazard tried but it just didn't happen. I felt bad for him but I'm not judging him on this World Cup. He's had 2 amazing seasons for us. Hopefully the third will be even better.

What do you call amazing? Hazard was at the level of Messi or Cristiano? THis season he played better than Neymar, Bale, Robben or Ribvery? Was Suarez a lot better than him? And Yaya? Was he better than Reus?

That's not an amazing season, what he did was ok but far from being a superstar like other teams have.

Amazing... amazing is Messi or Ronaldo, or Yaya that is a CM and scores 20 goals.That's amazing.

He is our best player, buut if he wants to the a real star he needs to do a lot more tahn he did, And with 21 or 22 or 23 years ol he is young, with more than that he is not.

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Come on are you really suggesting he doesn't get criticized enough? There is 570+ pages on this thread, you think it is all filled with a wankfest over Hazard? There are many over the top criticism of the boy. I think it was @Barbara, who mentioned that there is seems to be a lot of revisions of history. Apparently Oscar was only good against Juve, now according to some Hazard was only good for a few games last season. It seems like you want a unanimous opinion, you won't get that there will always be people on different aisles in discussions. Go to the Azpilicueta thread if you want to see a player enormously over praised.

I don't see anything unnatural on this thread. For every action there is a reaction, people start criticizing Hazard it will lead to others defending him.

You're slightly missing the point. I wasn't saying Hazard doesn't get criticized enough but more so people don't want to do so for the sake of it and finding all sort of excuses (repetitive ones at that). Some are just so defensive and even paranoid of not wanting to criticize him for the reasons already mentioned previously. It's more of a case of questioning why people can't keep it balance with the evaluation. Seen some can do that with other players but not with Hazard. It's like there's one rule for him and another for other players.

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Fuck these people. Like every star player lights it up at their first world cup. Hazard will be a star, for those saying he only showed up a few games, did he not show up vs PSG in France? Does everyone remember the second leg vs PSG ? We were all crushed when he got injured, we all said it was over. Thankfully it wasn't, but that's the kind of impact he has on our team. When we didn't have him in the league our team looked lost. Yes, he didn't make impacts for Belgium like he does for us, but thats cause DeBruyne is their main guy for some reason that I can't comprehend. He's still young, he will get another chance. To say he's overrated and only showed up a few games for us is disrespectful and if you really think that you can go fuck off somewhere.:ph34r:

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He apparently had a private talk with the coach before. I bet he wants to see him more dominant.

Hazard looked EXTREMELY tired and uninterested all tournament.

I think the Prem took a toll on him, its an extremely long season.

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I mean he should have perform like De Bruyne did at least. So basically he has to step up his game. He has all the talent.

DeBruyne was well rested this season, Eden well tired... These guys aren't super human, its takes an extremely special kind of endurance to keep up a high level of performance for 9 months.

Try being more realistic about what the mind and body can truly take people.

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Wished we kept Mata, He was more consistent. You we need someone like a Mata to be your 'everyday best player' Hazard can then play like a star once every 10 games and we'd be good enough to win some trophies

Everyday best player? Come on lets not sugercoat, Mata was partial to the anonymous game more than is let on, especially against City.

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How does creating over 80 chances constitute that his best position is at AM or as the No.10? Unless you have a detailed statistic listing where he created all those chances from, that statement is pretty flawed and baseless.

Have u ever seen a winger create 80chances and top every player in the league at chance creation before? If u have then maybe I've made a mistake.

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As for the game against Fulham, how sure are you that the game was changed because he simply had a free role in the second half or not because the players finally turned up after the rubbish first half? There were simply a lot more movement and rotations between the players to drag people about and create space for others to exploit. And mind you, Hazard's first assist practically came when he was near the right wing from a throw-in.

Hazard was surely more free. He spotted schurle runs from the right and laid passes to him. He was in more of a free role than being stuck to a position

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Everyday best player? Come on lets not sugercoat, Mata was partial to the anonymous game more than is let on, especially against City.

Mata wasn't there all the time but he was more consistent than Eden.
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Everyday best player? Come on lets not sugercoat, Mata was partial to the anonymous game more than is let on, especially against City.

You are responding to a guy with a question mark in his username, he's clueless by default.

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You are responding to a guy with a question mark in his username, he's clueless by default.

wow why the attack? Is it a crime tocall Eden inconsistent? Whatever the reason is, can you please place your insecurities about your life on someone else?
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Come on are you really suggesting he doesn't get criticized enough? There is 570+ pages on this thread, you think it is all filled with a wankfest over Hazard? There are many over the top criticism of the boy. I think it was @Barbara, who mentioned that there is seems to be a lot of revisions of history. Apparently Oscar was only good against Juve, now according to some Hazard was only good for a few games last season. It seems like you want a unanimous opinion, you won't get that there will always be people on different aisles in discussions. Go to the Azpilicueta thread if you want to see a player enormously over praised.

I don't see anything unnatural on this thread. For every action there is a reaction, people start criticizing Hazard it will lead to others defending him.

On to his World Cup performance, it would be unfair to say he had a horrible world cup. Lets have some perspective, he provided two winning assists in the group stage and his general performance beside the Argentina game have been decent. He definitely hasn't been a top performer in the world, but to say he has been "garbage," "horrible," "Terrible," etc is not true.

Belgium made the quarter-final and imo that is a very good finish for them based on their talent. People who are saying that they should have done much better are extremely overrating their players. They have absolutely no Fullbacks that can provide any threat going forward or can overlap out wide, and their midfield is average. Witsel is decent not world class like some people think he is on this forum. He has absolutely regressed since going to Russia, need to leave if he wants to get his career back on track. They left their best midfielder at home, Radja Nainggolan is better then anything they have. I have not even got to their strikers or their incapable manager.

there's a reason I decided to stay out of this thread. I knew it would be coming. People seem to be so fickle these days. Some of the same mouths worshiping him as if he was the second coming a few days or weeks ago are certainly among the ones saying how horrible he is. I don't even need to read it to know, although of course, there are many level headed people here as well.

I agree with you though. He's been okay in the WC as well as the Belgium side. Both have been extremely overhyped and overrated before the WC. I may have expected results wise a bit more from Hazard, but I didn't expect much better from Belgium results wise, so I don't get the overreaction now that the obvious became true. It's Hazard's first WC, he's a player known for his laid back attitude. I didn't expect him to become someone else with blood in his eyes like an enraged bull in the ring. That's not who he is. I'll dare to say again he's the kind of passive player - knowing some will have my head for that. But he's the quiet type, not the extra-motivated, I'll make this my backyard and show the world how awesome I am. I'm not slightly disappointed with him - a bit with Belgium as I expected at least better matches in the group stage, but Hazard was okay and expected (performance wise).

He knows his talents. He tried and couldn't do it. Hazard has played similar to this in his chelsea career too. He is passive 90% of the time until he gets a chance and goes past a defender. We need to stop overrating Hazard's talents. He's not a Messi/Robben/Neymar type player; Hazard is similar to Iniesta and Gotze

just to clarify my instance. That's not the kind of passive I'm talking about. If anything his game is very aggressive and active. It's his personality I'm talking about. He's a quiet guy, who doesn't show that extra motivation to prove anything to anyone. As I said in my last post here, I think if there's one manager capable of helping Eden become what he can be is Mourinho. He's a great motivator and he'll help Hazard to be ambitious (that's not even the word, but I can't think of the right one now, the opposite of the laid back attitude)

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