Eden Hazard

[Polo7 3,496]

I said it in the match thread yesterday already but the way he landed he could have fractured his hip for all we know. Injuries don't always happen the same way all the time. For some people getting out of bed is one of the most normal thing to do, for Diaby it breaking fracturing his elbow or some shit. It happens.

With the amount of tackles Hazard has been on the receiving end of in his Chelsea career so far and the times he hasn't suffered any injury it speaks volumes that something actual happened yesterday.

My point is if he has fractured his hip then fair enough, no problem. But if he is fine no problem, then his attitude yesterday was a disgrace. It was a "oh dear here we go again, Im out" attitude.

[Jase 43,479]

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Need you to start firing, Eden. One more chance.

[Leif 6,006]

either he's inconsistent and needs to work harder on his game or he's fickle and needs to work harder on his professional attitude

either way, such players aren't indispensable

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Falling on the hip and upper thigh bone/ball joint is no laughing matter. They are susceptible to jarring, dislocation and breaking.

Suffered a break and dislocation myself when falling the same way but on ice.

The doctors told me that even if I hadn't had the injuries, I would have been in serious discomfort for a few hours minimum with the jarring.

Now obviously Hazard only fell on a well manicured piece of grass which softened the impact but it is obvious he suffered a shock to that area.

Was noticible that when he tried to exert serious pressure on his foot after wanting to come back on, it wasn't happening.

Either that or he is a good actor when it comes to symptoms of pain. ;-) in which case he needs to hung, drawn and quartered at the Tower of London

[BlueLyon 9,359]

he did? looked like he was doing a "formality". and then just gave up. walked off.

i am slamming him for his overall mentality. when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. and the pussies start walking away. he has shown to be a fucking pussy;

You just know that once or if he leaves us for real barca or psg, he will shut down moaners by a mile to a point they will never come back.

He is going through a rough patch but I realy cant blame him. One of few players who performed regulary for so long that half a season wont change my opinion on him just yet.

He might not be a leader yet but he is a top top player and considering what is going on at club he deserves criticism but by far he is not the only one.

I get you he dissapointed this season but come on. One of few attackers that dont go down after every touch. Every time he played he tried. He is out of form and confidence, but he tried. Last season he extended contract wishing to stay here for long time. If he actualy wants to leave now, I dont blame him considering how bad is Mou doing this season.

[didierforever 7,349]

You just know that once or if he leaves us for real barca or psg, he will shut down moaners by a mile to a point they will never come back.

He is going through a rough patch but I realy cant blame him. One of few players who performed regulary for so long that half a season wont change my opinion on him just yet.

He might not be a leader yet but he is a top top player and considering what is going on at club he deserves criticism but by far he is not the only one.

I get you he dissapointed this season but come on. One of few attackers that dont go down after every touch. Every time he played he tried. He is out of form and confidence, but he tried. Last season he extended contract wishing to stay here for long time. If he actualy wants to leave now, I dont blame him considering how bad is Mou doing this season.

as bad as jose is doing this season, hazard has been worse.

when has he tried? against pool, against leicester, against city.

just cos he has got the quality to beat his man once a match and create that one half chance per match, he "tries". he is the only one who gets a free rein. does not have to defend that much.

he has been given a free role as a no.10 too and even as a striker. its not simply down to jose. hazard, cesc, oscar, all these pussies just dont have the mental strength of doing anything when the going actually gets tough.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

as bad as jose is doing this season, hazard has been worse.

when has he tried? against pool, against leicester, against city.

just cos he has got the quality to beat his man once a match and create that one half chance per match, he "tries". he is the only one who gets a free rein. does not have to defend that much.

he has been given a free role as a no.10 too and even as a striker. its not simply down to jose. hazard, cesc, oscar, all these pussies just dont have the mental strength of doing anything when the going actually gets tough.

When has he tried ? Oh come on. He's been poor for the first months of the season but this last month he's put in more good performances then bad. Twice vs Stoke, Norwich, Tottenham, Bournemouth, Porto.

Yeah still not his best but this accusation that he's not trying is just BS.

Also Hazard doesn't have a free role anymore. After Mourinho's public criticism he lost that free role. If you don't believe me just rewatch our game vs Porto and see how deep he was positioned at times.

My point is if he has fractured his hip then fair enough, no problem. But if he is fine no problem, then his attitude yesterday was a disgrace. It was a "oh dear here we go again, Im out" attitude.

But even if he is fit to play against Sunderland it doesn't mean he was faking it. Apparently he could barely walk on it the next day (and the day itself) so how could he have continued ?

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

[zolayes 14,489]

he has had the shit kicked out of him by opponents for two years ,, gets up NEVER retaliates or complains . Has his attacking flair reduced by an ultra defensive coach.

gets blamed as a faker causing the Eva debacle

now gets shit from his manager .

Go somewhere you will be appreciated , It's been a privilige having you at our club , But go fulfill you potential , enjoy your football .

But you will be missed just as your compatriots are missed

[manpe 10,861]

As much as I hate to say it, leaving chelsea would be best for his career.

[Fernando 6,488]

As much as I hate to say it, leaving chelsea would be best for his career.

Yeah we can't do creative player with this manager.

It's best to get big and tall players so we can play hoof the ball and park the bus.

We are lucky Mourinho was not around during Zola time, otherwise he would have been kicked down the can like he did with other flair players.

[didierforever 7,349]

When has he tried ? Oh come on. He's been poor for the first months of the season but this last month he's put in more good performances then bad. Twice vs Stoke, Norwich, Tottenham, Bournemouth, Porto.

Yeah still not his best but this accusation that he's not trying is just BS.

Also Hazard doesn't have a free role anymore. After Mourinho's public criticism he lost that free role. If you don't believe me just rewatch our game vs Porto and see how deep he was positioned at times.

But even if he is fit to play against Sunderland it doesn't mean he was faking it. Apparently he could barely walk on it the next day (and the day itself) so how could he have continued ?

norwich? spurs? stoke? LOL.

and lets talk about his role in a match against spurs. he is the only one who does get a free rein.

and its not even like he is being double marked these days. i doubt if he is even being marked these days.

cant press, cant defend, does not look like he even wants to play for the club. such pussies can fuck off to RM and get booed by their crowd

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

norwich? spurs? stoke? LOL.

and lets talk about his role in a match against spurs. he is the only one who does get a free rein.

and its not even like he is being double marked these days. i doubt if he is even being marked these days.

cant press, cant defend, does not look like he even wants to play for the club. such pussies can fuck off to RM and get booed by their crowd

What's so funny. He had good performances against those teams.

Don't know how you can speak of a free rein against Tottenham. He was playing in the striker position but he ran his ass off in that position. He was constantly moving and trying to create problems for Tottenham's back four.

He was even praised for his work ethic in that game on MoTD. Even Mourinho praised him in the post match interview.

Euhm yeah he's still getting double marked buddy. Let's face it who else of our team are they gonna mark.

Even in the poorest form of his life he still creates more chances then anyone else in our team. Let that sink in for a second.

[didierforever 7,349]

What's so funny. He had good performances against those teams.

Don't know how you can speak of a free rein against Tottenham. He was playing in the striker position but he ran his ass off in that position. He was constantly moving and trying to create problems for Tottenham's back four.

He was even praised for his work ethic in that game on MoTD. Even Mourinho praised him in the post match interview.

Euhm yeah he's still getting double marked buddy. Let's face it who else of our team are they gonna mark.

Even in the poorest form of his life he still creates more chances then anyone else in our team. Let that sink in for a second.

mourinho praised costa for his job against arsenal, mourinho thinks that playing iva as a RB ahead of azpi is a valid choice. mourinho also thinks that remy is not better than costa at the moment, mourinho also thought that bertrand was not worth giving a chance, that oscar was a better no.10 than kdb and mata. so lets not play "mourinho praised".

tell me of the chances he created against spurs? and yes, he did get a free rein compared to willian/oscar/pedro etc etc or any other chelsea AM/ST that has ever played. also, what problems did he create for spurs? he got a free header which he missed. thats all i remember.

its laughable, cos these days a good performance means doing nothing in defence, and simply been able to dribble past a player once or twice.

what chances are you talking about? the dribbling past a player and then crossing the ball into a box filled with 8 opposition players and costa? oh yes, thats gonna get converted every time. he has 0 goals and 4 assists in 1848 minutes of play this season. LET that sink in for a moment.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

mourinho praised costa for his job against arsenal, mourinho thinks that playing iva as a RB ahead of azpi is a valid choice. mourinho also thinks that remy is not better than costa at the moment, mourinho also thought that bertrand was not worth giving a chance, that oscar was a better no.10 than kdb and mata. so lets not play "mourinho praised".

tell me of the chances he created against spurs? and yes, he did get a free rein compared to willian/oscar/pedro etc etc or any other chelsea AM/ST that has ever played. also, what problems did he create for spurs? he got a free header which he missed. thats all i remember.

its laughable, cos these days a good performance means doing nothing in defence, and simply been able to dribble past a player once or twice.

what chances are you talking about? the dribbling past a player and then crossing the ball into a box filled with 8 opposition players and costa? oh yes, thats gonna get converted every time. he has 0 goals and 4 assists in 1848 minutes of play this season. LET that sink in for a moment.

I never said he created lots of chances against Tottenham. I said he created problems for the back four, which he did. He was holding the ball up, running in behind the Tottenham defence, running the channels. He was an AM playing as a striker yet he did everything you'd expect from a striker. Almost scored aswell with a left footed volley. Ofcourse he had less defensive work then Willian/Oscar/Pedro. He was the striker.

Tottenham had the majority of possession as we were primarily set up not to concede. About Mourinho praising Hazard. I'm not saying everything Mourinho says is right but i find it odd that Mourinho, MoTD analists and even fans on this forum thought that was a good performance and even specifically praised his work ethic in that game. Saying he did everything he could to make it work yet you soemhow seem to remember differently.

"the dribbling past a player and then crossing the ball into a box filled with 8 opposition players and costa"

And that's Hazard's fault ? That we don't have enough players in the box ? That Costa has completely forgotten how to make a near- and backpost run ?

Teams know we like to play through the centre so they just pack the central areas and force us out wide.

The fact that we have a rb playing lb and an aging cb playing rb means that our wingplay is solely reliant on our wingers getting past their marker(s), reach the byline and cross the ball into like you say a box filled with 8 opposition players and Costa.

Without some significant tactical change we aren't going to see any improvement.

As long as we don't improve our wing play (as in play some natural f*cking FB's) and improve our movement inside the box, teams are just gonna continue to pack the central areas and we're gonna continue to struggle.

I mean seriously how many times have Azpi and Ivanovic delivered a proper cross ? Or get in behind the defence and reach the byline ? Azpi almost never crosses and Ivanovic is too busy hitting the first defender even though he's in acres of space and not under pressure at all.

He has 0 goals this season. He 's been in poor form no denying that but then again he's never been a goalscorer. Let face it he's more of a creator then a goalscorer.

That's where his strenght has been for us.

Other players haven't been doing that much better though in terms of goalscoring.

Almost halfway through our season and Costa has 4 goals, Oscar 3 goals, Pedro 1 goal, Willian has 7 goals but 5 of those came directly from setpieces.

It's clear that the lack of goals isn't just down to Hazard alone. The entire team is struggling to get goals from open play.

[didierforever 7,349]

I never said he created lots of chances against Tottenham. I said he created problems for the back four, which he did. He was holding the ball up, running in behind the Tottenham defence, running the channels. He was an AM playing as a striker yet he did everything you'd expect from a striker. Almost scored aswell with a left footed volley. Ofcourse he had less defensive work then Willian/Oscar/Pedro. He was the striker.

and normally he does not? you are telling me that hazard does as much defensive work as oscar or willian? hell, even cesc does more defensive work than hazard. what problems are you talking about? both of spurs' CBs could have been sleeping and they would not have missed anything. also, lets not call him an AM. he plays as an AM for us, but he is a forward, a defensive liability.

Tottenham had the majority of possession as we were primarily set up not to concede. About Mourinho praising Hazard. I'm not saying everything Mourinho says is right but i find it odd that Mourinho, MoTD analists and even fans on this forum thought that was a good performance and even specifically praised his work ethic in that game. Saying he did everything he could to make it work yet you soemhow seem to remember differently.

"the dribbling past a player and then crossing the ball into a box filled with 8 opposition players and costa"

And that's Hazard's fault ? That we don't have enough players in the box ? That Costa has completely forgotten how to make a near- and backpost run ?

Teams know we like to play through the centre so they just pack the central areas and force us out wide.

The fact that we have a rb playing lb and an aging cb playing rb means that our wingplay is solely reliant on our wingers getting past their marker(s), reach the byline and cross the ball into like you say a box filled with 8 opposition players and Costa.

Without some significant tactical change we aren't going to see any improvement.

As long as we don't improve our wing play (as in play some natural f*cking FB's) and improve our movement inside the box, teams are just gonna continue to pack the central areas and we're gonna continue to struggle.

I mean seriously how many times have Azpi and Ivanovic delivered a proper cross ? Or get in behind the defence and reach the byline ? Azpi almost never crosses and Ivanovic is too busy hitting the first defender even though he's in acres of space and not under pressure at all.

thats his only move left. he wont stay on the wing to provide us any proper width despite like you said, us having a RB playing as a LB. most of the time he is wandering around the pitch with no discipline and leaving azpi exposed or others to do his work.

and now we are blaming azpi and iva for hazard being shit. i accept that the tactics are stale and have been found out and in general our full backs hamper our attack but i am sorry, if you cant see the MASSIVE difference in hazard's shit play.

in 14/15 (for PL and CL):

hazard had an average of 5.2 dribbles per game which has gone down to 2.5 this season. honestly cant remember the last time he even made a useful dribble.

as for play, his goalscoring movement has been non-existent, and his general play has stunk so bad that he was substituted once at around HT.

he is not a goalscorer, and yet a player who relies on individual brilliance which is something that he has not provided to us this whole season.

"he was good against spurs", what was he good at? a striker being good at doing the defensive work. what did he "create". what did he provide to us that remy could not have and more.

He has 0 goals this season. He 's been in poor form no denying that but then again he's never been a goalscorer. Let face it he's more of a creator then a goalscorer.

That's where his strenght has been for us.

Other players haven't been doing that much better though in terms of goalscoring.

Almost halfway through our season and Costa has 4 goals, Oscar 3 goals, Pedro 1 goal, Willian has 7 goals but 5 of those came directly from setpieces.

It's clear that the lack of goals isn't just down to Hazard alone. The entire team is struggling to get goals from open play.

he is a creator? what has he created this season. please enlighten me.

its been halfway through our season, and the player who was supposed to carry our attack and be the center of it all has let us down MASSIVELY. hazard is our epicenter of attack. he has been so shit, that we are where we are. the entire team is set up in a way to enhance his abilities. play a defensive LB to not let him worry much, give him a free rein, so on and so forth. he is as much to blame as cesc is for our current predicament.

[zolayes 14,489]

This kid is pretty spineless... A master with the ball on his feet.. but not a leader by a long shot.

you call Hazard spineless and your favourite player is Falcao ,, no need to say more