Eden Hazard

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I disagree. Think he's comfortably our most important player together with Cesc and Matic. Put any of these 3 out the team and we look a different (read: worse) team.

Yeah I agree with the last bit for sure. He 100% does add the quality to our side that we do need and he's shown that for us when he is imposing. But the consistency of being that sort of presence is something I think he can work on..

@lionsden and I had the discussion that it is perhaps our tactics that holds him back. He's more effective in sort bursts of pace and dribbling and perhaps his defensive burdens are

[sutro 1,026]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

but everyone here agrees on that mate, no one said that he's on that level and he has a very long way to go to reach that and most likely never will reach it.

The discussion we are having was never about that also, rom said that he was far from the level of cesc and costa and to me thats not true at all, when you say things like that you are simply looking at the stats without watching the actual games and even then Hazard still has 9goals and 8 assists in 24 games.

[Polo7 3,496]

Hazard imo is definitely one of the most important players. But Im sick of people being told they are wrong on these forums. Not everyone has to agree with your opinions!

[DYC. 7,542]

Lmao, again no-one is allowed to go against the opinion of Hazard

I actually agree with Rom2013 to an extent. Hazard is comparable to the best in the world, in terms of the talent he possess and we've seen enough of that to know this as a fact. But if he's going to be standing alongside Messi and Ronaldo in awards and recognition then there is another level Hazard must step-up to. All Rom2013 is saying, is that Hazard has room for improvement to be one of the top 3 in the world.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Hazard is not on the level of Messi and Ronaldo yet

The whole comparison to Cristiano and Messi needs to stop though. He's not as outrageously talented as Messi, of course he's quite the talent himself, neither does he possess CR's ridiculous goal-sense. Not only did they achieve a lot more at Hazard's age, they went on to improve to a level people didn't think was possible (on a consistent basis). And that doesn't just go for Hazard but any new/hot talent. To be compared to them, you actually have to prove it by playing at that level for years like they have.

Completely disagree with the notion on him not being among Chelsea's best players this season. Are you kidding me? Everybody is allowed to have they're opinion, definitely. But if I say Kroos and Modric have been a lot better than Ronaldo this season, I don't sound right. I mean, be serious.

My memory with these kind of things is not the best, but in 22 starts, Hazard has had like what.. 3, maybe 4 bad games? 8-10 great games and 7-9 good games. He's been fantastic this season. Add a bunch of goals and assists to his game right now, and he's a top 5 player. Aguero is the only player above him in the league this season imo. You could argue for Cesc and Matic, or even Alexis. But Hazard has been the better player for me, Alexis just stands out more because of his underperforming team mates. He's been one of the better performers in the group stages of the CL as well.

Could he score more goals? Sure, and I still expect him to score around 15 goals from open play this season. But 9 goals in 22 starts is anything but a poor return. More assists from Eden? Definitely. This is a area he's been surprisingly ineffective in. A player of his calibre and his style of play should be providing more assists. But even though goals and assists are important, they don't define the quality of the performances. I'm convinced the likes Nedved and Figo would not receive half the praise they used to get by the majority of today.

The great thing about Hazard is how there's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm convinced he'll continue to raise his game. Looking at his time at Chelsea, you can see how he keeps progressing with every passing season. Becoming a superstar at this age is a rarity. Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva, Yaya Toure, Tevez, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Modric... you look at that list of players, which player was at Hazard's level at 23? Fabregas is probably the only one (you could argue for Iniesta and Rooney). That's amazing. And then think about how much they improved after 23. Eden can become some player.

It's time for a big moment though. Like a memorable performance in the quarter/semi finals of the CL. That's the one thing he lacks right now.

[Leif 6,006]

The day a winger is the most important player in a side is the day pigs fly. (C'mon, quote this with a 1-worded reply like "Figo" or something and collect your likes)

[Kieran. 6,317]

The day a winger is the most important player in a side is the day pigs fly. (C'mon, quote this with a 1-worded reply like "Figo" or something and collect your likes)

Figo

[Madmax 9,219]

Figo

Dammit. Collect your like, you filthy animal.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

This dude is on fire, hope he could put another great performance against Stoke.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89-lBR-Lpg

Need one of these performances tomorrow.

[Rom2013 446]

The whole comparison to Cristiano and Messi needs to stop though. He's not as outrageously talented as Messi, of course he's quite the talent himself, neither does he possess CR's ridiculous goal-sense. Not only did they achieve a lot more at Hazard's age, they went on to improve to a level people didn't think was possible (on a consistent basis). And that doesn't just go for Hazard but any new/hot talent. To be compared to them, you actually have to prove it by playing at that level for years like they have.

Completely disagree with the notion on him not being among Chelsea's best players this season. Are you kidding me? Everybody is allowed to have they're opinion, definitely. But if I say Kroos and Modric have been a lot better than Ronaldo this season, I don't sound right. I mean, be serious.

My memory with these kind of things is not the best, but in 22 starts, Hazard has had like what.. 3, maybe 4 bad games? 8-10 great games and 7-9 good games. He's been fantastic this season. Add a bunch of goals and assists to his game right now, and he's a top 5 player. Aguero is the only player above him in the league this season imo. You could argue for Cesc and Matic, or even Alexis. But Hazard has been the better player for me, Alexis just stands out more because of his underperforming team mates. He's been one of the better performers in the group stages of the CL as well.

Could he score more goals? Sure, and I still expect him to score around 15 goals from open play this season. But 9 goals in 22 starts is anything but a poor return. More assists from Eden? Definitely. This is a area he's been surprisingly ineffective in. A player of his calibre and his style of play should be providing more assists. But even though goals and assists are important, they don't define the quality of the performances. I'm convinced the likes Nedved and Figo would not receive half the praise they used to get by the majority of today.

The great thing about Hazard is how there's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm convinced he'll continue to raise his game. Looking at his time at Chelsea, you can see how he keeps progressing with every passing season. Becoming a superstar at this age is a rarity. Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva, Yaya Toure, Tevez, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Modric... you look at that list of players, which player was at Hazard's level at 23? Fabregas is probably the only one (you could argue for Iniesta and Rooney). That's amazing. And then think about how much they improved after 23. Eden can become some player.

It's time for a big moment though. Like a memorable performance in the quarter/semi finals of the CL. That's the one thing he lacks right now.

No one said that Hazard is not between the best players in Chelsea... I said he is not the best. It's the reality. ANd between Hazard and Messi or Ronaldo there are 5 or 6 steps between him and those 2.

The problem of Hazard it's not only Cristiano and Messi, is also Sanchez, Di MAria, Robben, RIbery, Gotze, Isco, Neymar, Bale, and some others that play in similar positions. He needs to do a lot more, score more goals, do more assists, play better, he needs to be a lot more consistent.

There are players like Messi or ROnaldo that at the age of 18 everyone knew they would be increadible, and there are others that started playing really well 10 years after. In most cases you never know. RObinho was supposed to be a great player, Paim was better than Cristiano in Sporting, Kaka was nothing special in the youth team of São Paulo...

But the reality is that Hazard is supposed to be our star... Maybe one day he will be...or maybe not. Based on reality, and not on wishful thinking, he should do a lot more.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Probably not 3-4 steps, but he's not our most important player right now. It's a valid argument. While his consistency has improved a lot this season, Hazard can do more to properly secure his place in our history, that will come with more experience with us, but if he wants to be our most important player then there is room for improvement. We all want Hazard to be our main guy, but he needs to be more imposing on games and show more genius when we're trying to break down tough opposition.

That's an understandable opinion but it's certainly not a fact.

I think Eden is indeed our best player followed closely by Cesc. Even now despite all the talent we have in the team, he is still, more often than not, the main source of danger and the catalyst to most of our moves. Even when he is not contributing goals and assists, his dribbling is still arguably our main method of creating space in the final third and the FKs he wins are invaluable to our attack. Heck, his mere presence just standing there creates spaces for others because teams always have someone marking him and another ready to close down when the ball comes near him.

I think we tend to take for granted what Eden does on a regular basis that most players can only dream of. I know stats are never the whole story, but just look at the dribbles/ take-ons, passing in final third, chances created and fouls won stats; they're no coincidence. It is very clear to me that if this has a standout star it's obviously Eden.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Just realized he is already on 9 goals, wtf LOL he is about to hit double figure for goals and assists again this season Lampard's goals replacement found(including pens)

[iseah100 5,612]

Probably not 3-4 steps, but he's not our most important player right now. It's a valid argument. While his consistency has improved a lot this season, Hazard can do more to properly secure his place in our history, that will come with more experience with us, but if he wants to be our most important player then there is room for improvement. We all want Hazard to be our main guy, but he needs to be more imposing on games and show more genius when we're trying to break down tough opposition.

He is absolutely our most important player. When we need someone to make some magic happen, we all call on Hazard. He is our most important player.

Hazard imo is definitely one of the most important players. But Im sick of people being told they are wrong on these forums. Not everyone has to agree with your opinions!

Sometimes, people are just plain wrong.

Eden needs to make 3 or 4 more steps because this is not enough.

ABout Eden being better than Fabregas (and Fabregas is a great player but also far from a Ballon d'Or quality)... well... I think the one that needs to see more games of Chelsea is not me.

3 or 4 steps? Absolutely not.

No they don't. In reality Hazard is comparable to Messi or Ronaldo. Or at least he is as good as Aguero, or Fabregas for example this season.

Let's all of us say how amazing he is. In reality he isn't but we should all say tthat he is amazing.

In a forum where Oscar is "increadible"... yes Hazard is Ballon d'Or. Kalas is our future also.

A player that can't be our best player, and Hazard today is far from it, is not one of the best players in the world in the Ballon d'Or fight. If he wants to be our super star or best player in the world he needs to improve a lot, if he wants to be one more player he is in the right path.

Kalas is our future. Oscar is incredible. Hazard is a future Ballon d'Or winner.

Seriously, I don't think you have watched Eden this year, he's had maybe 3 bad games, if that. He is key to our attack and the guy we look to for some magic late in a game.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Kalas is our future.

I see you saying this a lot. He really isn't...

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

The whole comparison to Cristiano and Messi needs to stop though. He's not as outrageously talented as Messi, of course he's quite the talent himself, neither does he possess CR's ridiculous goal-sense. Not only did they achieve a lot more at Hazard's age, they went on to improve to a level people didn't think was possible (on a consistent basis). And that doesn't just go for Hazard but any new/hot talent. To be compared to them, you actually have to prove it by playing at that level for years like they have.

Completely disagree with the notion on him not being among Chelsea's best players this season. Are you kidding me? Everybody is allowed to have they're opinion, definitely. But if I say Kroos and Modric have been a lot better than Ronaldo this season, I don't sound right. I mean, be serious.

My memory with these kind of things is not the best, but in 22 starts, Hazard has had like what.. 3, maybe 4 bad games? 8-10 great games and 7-9 good games. He's been fantastic this season. Add a bunch of goals and assists to his game right now, and he's a top 5 player. Aguero is the only player above him in the league this season imo. You could argue for Cesc and Matic, or even Alexis. But Hazard has been the better player for me, Alexis just stands out more because of his underperforming team mates. He's been one of the better performers in the group stages of the CL as well.

Could he score more goals? Sure, and I still expect him to score around 15 goals from open play this season. But 9 goals in 22 starts is anything but a poor return. More assists from Eden? Definitely. This is a area he's been surprisingly ineffective in. A player of his calibre and his style of play should be providing more assists. But even though goals and assists are important, they don't define the quality of the performances. I'm convinced the likes Nedved and Figo would not receive half the praise they used to get by the majority of today.

The great thing about Hazard is how there's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm convinced he'll continue to raise his game. Looking at his time at Chelsea, you can see how he keeps progressing with every passing season. Becoming a superstar at this age is a rarity. Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva, Yaya Toure, Tevez, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Modric... you look at that list of players, which player was at Hazard's level at 23? Fabregas is probably the only one (you could argue for Iniesta and Rooney). That's amazing. And then think about how much they improved after 23. Eden can become some player.

It's time for a big moment though. Like a memorable performance in the quarter/semi finals of the CL. That's the one thing he lacks right now.

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