Yeboii 1,844 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, FabHazard said: No he did not lose pace.. He was playing in second gear against norwich...if a full back covers him he is just opting for a back pass i think he is evolving into more of a playmaker..like iniesta..his passing has been improved.. he just does not dribble as much as before..i think that is mainly due to lack of fitness and injuries.. Once he is in top physical shape he will be back..imo he is close to getting there! He could be a great playmaker if he keeps up with impressive passing. Maybe he is the new CAM and Kenedy our left winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Seems to have no cutting edge anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 He is improving for sure, at the end of the season he will be in full Hazard mode again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Skysports gave him MOTM rating yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 hours ago, FabHazard said: No he did not lose pace.. He was playing in second gear against norwich...if a full back covers him he is just opting for a back pass i think he is evolving into more of a playmaker..like iniesta..his passing has been improved.. he just does not dribble as much as before..i think that is mainly due to lack of fitness and injuries.. Once he is in top physical shape he will be back..imo he is close to getting there! There was a through pass to Hazard resulting Eden and another Norwich defender (cant remember who) ran after the ball and Hazard looked quite slow despite sprinting, leading to Norwich defender reaching the ball first. I know Eden of last season would definately reach that ball quicker. Maybe he didnt run full speed, but if he did he would be one on one with GK... He definately looks less agile and turns around slower than last year. and IMO that is reason for his worse dribbling. His mentality and fitness are nowhere near top. But Im sure he will come back though. stroey and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etoo fils 45 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's not an excuse for what he said about psg but a belgian journalist who knows eden very well said, on Telefoot Sunday (big show about football in France) that he was a psg fan since he was a kid. It dosen't mean, he dreams to play there but for sure he has affection for this club. So it's not about upgrade or downgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 15 hours ago, MCM4PR3Z said: He is improving for sure, at the end of the season he will be in full Hazard mode again. Slightly better but not by much at all. It would be nice to see him play very well between now and the end of the season, after that I am not bothered which path he chooses, take it or leave it me with this lad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 You're only claiming he's bad because he doesn't dribble anymore. That was a very good performance for any other player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 On 2. 3. 2016 at 10:01 AM, Special Juan said: Gets the ball and his man fronts him up and he's clueless, fucking no idea at all. I just don't get Hazard anymore, I really don't. Man Im just hoping Eden gets back in form and then see what will you have to say bout that. He is in bad form yeah we all see that. But if you cant stand behind him when he is shit, dont support when he is on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, BlueLyon said: Man Im just hoping Eden gets back in form and then see what will you have to say bout that. He is in bad form yeah we all see that. But if you cant stand behind him when he is shit, dont support when he is on fire. I'm quite sure you are coming into this debate with half cocked information, in fact I am sure you haven't read half the stuff I have posted regarding Eden. Do me a favor, read back through everything I have written, dissect, come back here and let me know. Look forward to your response when you have done your homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I just wanna know what the trigger or incident was that led to him being so out of it this season. It's like a light switched between last season and this. Still remarkable that his form just completely dove off a cliff and is just now reaching about 60% of what it was last season. He's still not anywhere near his best. Did Mourinho just completely run him into the ground? Or has his head been so turned by Real Madrid that he's checked out mentally? My wish is that the club and next manager can convince him that the league is there for the taking next season and that he can play a major role in going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 46 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I'm quite sure you are coming into this debate with half cocked information, in fact I am sure you haven't read half the stuff I have posted regarding Eden. Do me a favor, read back through everything I have written, dissect, come back here and let me know. Look forward to your response when you have done your homework. Ok, so I checked last 30 pages or so of your comments. Lets se... ''He needs to start upping his game or no fucker will want him. '' Sell him for tank loads of cash, build the attacking side of the team around Willian and Costa. If he wants to gob shite about playing for PSG, Madrid or his fucking idol Zidane then fucking ship him out.Had enough of his shite performances and his chatter in the press.....Jog on lad.'' Still hasn't turned up in anything.Absolute dog shite.'' I'd swap him for a crate of lager. '' Says everything when you are getting outshone by pedro. '' Or Hazard could have some fucking faith in himself right? He keeps possession well he just does fuck all with it right now. '' Then you also praised him twice after two good games he had. Basicaly I stopped checking older pages, because those comments get your opinion on Hazard very clearly. Perhaps you hailed him back then in october and thinking he will get back, but that doesnt realy matter. Because what we discussing is your opinion on Hazard in March after he is performing poorly for about two thirds of season, and its pretty much clear what you think about that. Now I dont exactly know what you want me to know about you because you talked shit on shit about Eden for a while, which proves my theory that you cant stand behind a player when he is bad. And thats all my point. If you cant support him when he is shit, dont support him when he is good. Fair criticism is fair, he was bad for a while and everyone has right to say he is bad. But selling and talking shit about him? Well sure if you lost your faith in him. But some didnt. I didnt. And he is too talented to not come back. Its just that I prefer him play for Chelsea shirt when he does come back. See millions in pocket at chelsea dont do much to me. Watching Eden however i a joy. And there is nothing better to see your player perform again after others lost faith. I dont know bout you tho. Everyone has right to opinion. Then I checked Costa thread and saw same story. Before he got good: ''His attitude stinks on and off the field, it's very simple.Last season he was a sharp striker who was hungry, now he's a fucking nuisance on and off the field that focus's more on disruption than goals.'' Which is one of the main problems. Costa should be looking closer to home when things aren't going right. Put simply he's been pathetic thus far this season, proper petulant child today, let him rot. '' Even implying we should sell him and get Cavani. Then after he hits form: Keep this up please, not just the goals but the actual leading of the line and running the channels brilliantly. It pretty much makes clear to me that you support our players when they are good and absolutely trash them and would sell them (at least some) when they play bad. Now mind that I wouldnt write this post if it wasnt for your encouragement to check your old posts, but since you asked me to check your opinion, I did exactly that. Cheers. Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Ok, so I checked last 30 pages or so of your comments. Lets se... ''He needs to start upping his game or no fucker will want him. '' Sell him for tank loads of cash, build the attacking side of the team around Willian and Costa. If he wants to gob shite about playing for PSG, Madrid or his fucking idol Zidane then fucking ship him out.Had enough of his shite performances and his chatter in the press.....Jog on lad.'' Still hasn't turned up in anything.Absolute dog shite.'' I'd swap him for a crate of lager. '' Says everything when you are getting outshone by pedro. '' Or Hazard could have some fucking faith in himself right? He keeps possession well he just does fuck all with it right now. '' Then you also praised him twice after two good games he had. Basicaly I stopped checking older pages, because those comments get your opinion on Hazard very clearly. Perhaps you hailed him back then in october and thinking he will get back, but that doesnt realy matter. Because what we discussing is your opinion on Hazard in March after he is performing poorly for about two thirds of season, and its pretty much clear what you think about that. Now I dont exactly know what you want me to know about you because you talked shit on shit about Eden for a while, which proves my theory that you cant stand behind a player when he is bad. And thats all my point. If you cant support him when he is shit, dont support him when he is good. Fair criticism is fair, he was bad for a while and everyone has right to say he is bad. But selling him? Well sure if you lost your faith in him. But some didnt. I didnt. And he is too talented to not come back. Its just that I prefer him play for Chelsea shirt when he does come back. See millions in pocket at chelsea dont do much to me. Watching Eden however i a joy. And there is nothing better to see your player perform again after others lost faith. I dont know bout you tho. Everyone has right to opinion. Then I checked Costa thread and saw same story. Before he got good: ''His attitude stinks on and off the field, it's very simple.Last season he was a sharp striker who was hungry, now he's a fucking nuisance on and off the field that focus's more on disruption than goals.'' Which is one of the main problems. Costa should be looking closer to home when things aren't going right. Put simply he's been pathetic thus far this season, proper petulant child today, let him rot. '' Even implying we should sell him and get Cavani. Then after he hits form: Keep this up please, not just the goals but the actual leading of the line and running the channels brilliantly. It pretty much makes clear to me that you support our players when they are good and absolutely trash them and would sell them (at least some) when they play bad. Now mind that I wouldnt write this post if it wasnt for your encouragement to check your old posts, but since you asked me to check your opinion, I did exactly that. Cheers. Ahhhh you stopped checking because maybe you read something that actually went against your original quote of "If you can't stand behind him when he's shit don't support when he's on fire" But I made a quote I made to Weckerz some time ago now but you didn't go that far because it suited you not too, but I understand that as it kills your quote dead. I support players home and away, through good and bad but that does not stop me having an opinion when they are good or bad, I call it as I see it. Eden Hazard this season has been truly and utterly awful, so much so it is one of the biggest fall from graces I can remember from a footballer who had been put on one of the highest pedestals possible. Hazard or Costa it doesn't matter, this is an open forum to discuss all things CFC, I will never beat around the bush by hiding behind anyone regards players playing shit, if they are playing shit I will call it exactly that whether it's Hazard, Willian or anyone. I cheered his first goal, I will cheers his next goal, I want him to come back to form, but IMO I can't see it because I think he is mentally and physically fucked. Prove me and thousands wrong Eden, we are all waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Ahhhh you stopped checking because maybe you read something that actually went against your original quote of "If you can't stand behind him when he's shit don't support when he's on fire" But I made a quote I made to Weckerz some time ago now but you didn't go that far because it suited you not too, but I understand that as it kills your argument dead. I support players home and away, through good and bad but that does not stop me having an opinion when they are good or bad, I call it as I see it. Eden Hazard this season has been truly and utterly awful, so much so it is one of the biggest fall from graces I can remember from a footballer who had been put on one of the highest pedestals possible. Hazard or Costa it doesn't matter, this is an open forum to discuss all things CFC, I will never beat around the bush by hiding behind anyone regards players playing shit, if they are playing shit I will call it exactly that whether it's Hazard, Willian or anyone. I cheered his first goal, I will cheers his next goal, I want him to come back to form, but IMO I can't see it because I think he is mentally and physically fucked. Prove me and thousands wrong Eden, we are all waiting. No I went all way back to january, and it was same stuff over and over. For past two months only negative comments. Thats why I stopped. Im sure you wrote positive on him too 5 months ago or a year ago. But that simply isnt relevant because we are talking about current situation. If I cheered for lets say Ronaldo from january 2015 to december 2015 and then constantly talked shit about him for last 3 months, would I be a loyal supporter to him? Obviously not. I didnt stop because it didnt suit me. Dont just assume like you know all what I did and what I didnt. First of all I didnt reach that comment you wrote to Weckerz and secondly, even if I would, it was all the way back that it doesnt even matter. Eden was bad in december and you might still support him. Okay. But you also talked trash of him since january which says enough to me how long can you have faith to out of form player. Perhaps you thought I wont check back, but I did and you got exposed. I never questioned your loyalty to chelsea or if you are a good fan or not, Im sure u are. Lets end it here tho, it leads nowhere, bottom line hopefuly Eden reaches his best because that would give us huge boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: No I went all way back to january, and it was same stuff over and over. For past two months only negative comments. Thats why I stopped. Im sure you wrote positive on him too 5 months ago or a year ago. But that simply isnt relevant because we are talking about current situation. If I cheered for lets say Ronaldo from january 2015 to december 2015 and then constantly talked shit about him for last 3 months, would I be a loyal supporter to him? Obviously not. I didnt stopped because it didnt suit me. Dont just assume like you know all what I did and what I didnt. First of all I didnt reach that comment you wrote to Weckerz and secondly, even if I would, it was all the way back that it doesnt even matter. Eden was bad in december and you might still support him. Okay. But you also talked trash of him since january which says enough to me how long can you have faith to out of form player. Perhaps you thought I wont check back, but I did and you got exposed. I never questioned your loyalty to chelsea or if you are a good fan or not, Im sure u are. Lets end it here tho, it leads nowhere, bottom line hopefuly Eden reaches his best because that would give us huge boost. I think you are maybe more hurt that someone is calling it like it is, and maybe the truth is hurting you. I will be still here when he scores his next goal and giving him plaudits, but I certainly won't hide my feelings. chelseafan26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I think you are maybe more hurt that someone is calling it like it is, and maybe the truth is hurting you. I will be still here when he scores his next goal and giving him plaudits, but I certainly won't hide my feelings. Me hurt about what? The truth? The truth that you cant support players when they are bad? Nope honestly dont care about that. But it will be fun when Eden plays and you will praise him again as if u were always supporting him after trying to get rid of him as soon as possible if it was your way. Your comments tell all the truth man. Just stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: Me hurt about what? The truth? The truth that you cant support players when they are bad? Nope honestly dont care about that. But it will be fun when Eden plays and you will praise him again as if u were always supporting him after trying to get rid of him as soon as possible if it was your way. Your comments tell all the truth man. Just stop it. Once again you are going over old ground and digging up what I have already said. I will support Eden, cheer Eden and celebrate when he scores. What I won't do is hide behind a feather pillow and be a yes man because his name is Eden Hazard. I will once again say this and hopefully it may register with you. No player is bigger than this club, if he wants to fuck off then fine, if he wants to stay, roll his sleeves up and get on with it, we will all support him...In the meantime, lets have action, lets have goals, these are two things that are expected of the quality of player he is right? I will say it again, right now he isn't very good, this kid needs to get his finger out of his arse and start firing us to glory for what's left of this average season. This isn't a lot to ask from a player that won nigh on everything last season is it? Or is that me being unfair again? I'm calling Eden out like every commentator, fan and neutral has done all season because his form is piss poor. This isn't a coincidence, this is cold light of day truth mate, and I think it's exactly that is what you are not swallowing. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Eden Hazard on Chelsea tv- "I am happy, I just need to score a couple of goals...Even if i play bad I am happy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socur Toxanarosa 145 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 But we are not Mr. Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Will someone slap this lad silly until he gets his head straight or at least gag him and don't allow him to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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