Eden Hazard

[Myself 793]

I don't agree with that compared to Neymar. The rest is true

Really? Hazard is one of the most two footed players in the league, its amazing. His placement is in his left and the power is in his right. If you watched the Swansea, Everton or Schalke games you'll see how great his acceleration is, here's just one example

https://vine.co/v/OBO7aHt1eEn

[ish 5]

i love hazard, he can contribute all across the pitch and even if he isnt necesarilly the finisher type player like neymar and bale i dont think thats a bad thing.

btw neymar is supremely two footed, he can go either way, shoot with power with both feet and generally just doesnt care which direction he goes past a player. he doesnt really dribble like hazard though, neymar is the type to use a trick or something to get past a player and then shoot because he is in the area to do so. hazard will start in our halfway line, drive at a player, and force them to commit and then pass it. if anything his biggest fault in terms of scoring is he likes dropping deep too often and doesnt wait for out midfield to supply him.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

What exactly can Hazard do that Neymar can't? Add in Neymar's goalscoring ability and it's a no contest.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Nah, vision is a tie at worst. Neymar's through balls, crossing, set piece taking ability (something Hazard is awful at) and creativity in the final third is just as good as Hazard's arguably even better. Hazard is definitely the better passer in general play and more intelligent though.

Dribbling is probably equal. Hazard is a more technical dribbler and accelerates quicker but Neymar is more skillful of the two and more explosive over longer distances.

Left footed goals from Neymar. They're about equal there as well.

Again, in terms of all around play there's not much difference between the two. It's goalscoring where Neymar is miles better. Neymar is on course to break Pele's NT record while Eden hasn't even reached double figures yet.

Neymar already has 6 goals this season while Hazard is still stuck on 1.

If Hazard wants a Balon D'or he can't rest on his laurels like so many of fans want him to. He really needs to increase his goal-output this season. He should be getting at least 20 in open play each year.

[iseah100 5,612]

Nah, vision is a tie at worst. Neymar's through balls, crossing, set piece taking ability (something Hazard is awful at) and creativity in the final third is just as good as Hazard's arguably even better. Hazard is definitely the better passer in general play and more intelligent though.

Dribbling is probably equal. Hazard is a more technical dribbler and accelerates quicker but Neymar is more skillful of the two and more explosive over longer distances.

Left footed goals from Neymar. They're about equal there as well.

Again, in terms of all around play there's not much difference between the two. It's goalscoring where Neymar is miles better. Neymar is on course to break Pele's NT record while Eden hasn't even reached double figures yet.

Neymar already has 6 goals this season while Hazard is still stuck on 1.

If Hazard wants a Balon D'or he can't rest on his laurels like so many of fans want him to. He really needs to increase his goal-output this season. He should be getting at least 20 in open play each year.

[Barbara 15,149]

I honestly don't have an opinion about Neymar x Hazard... I honestly don't, it's a well known fact I don't like players comparisons at all because there are so many different aspects that make a player good, talented, etc...

There are two things though that must be said: 1) People who rate Neymar based on his Barcelona career have no idea what he's capable of. He was twice that player while he was still in Brazil. His NT performances are somewhere in the between. So if you're going to rate Neymar, you have to have had followed his career at Santos (closely) and not simply say based on Barça and Brazil NT. At Barça last season he was a shadow to Messi and it'll take a while for him to move from there. Barça isn't Real where Bale can still shine despite Cristiano. RM's systems were NEVER set up around Cris, not with Pellegrini or José or Carlo. No one builds the team around him because he's a winger, there's no balance if you build a team around a winger. Messi at Barça is the polar opposite. The team is built around him, has always been by all managers that went there. Regardless of his position, the team will always be built around him and the players as well as the play always converge to him. Neymar can't be what Bale is at Madrid exactly because of that. RM can afford others to shine, Barça barely. So say whatever you want about Neymar, just don't pretend you know him based on his Barça career, NT displays and a few matches you may have caught while he was in Brazil.

2) I do agree with @Gilvorak when he talks about the goal threat being something Neymar is miles ahead of Hazard. Neymar is that player, Hazard isn't. It doesn't necessarily make Neymar better than Hazard as a player, but it certainly will make him have better chances winning a Balon d'Or in the future. Goals matter for those sort of things and while I don't need Eden to win it, it seems like it's one of his dreams... he would have to work A LOT on his finishing to stand a chance, unless all of sudden there's an incredible drop of quality elsewhere around the time he's a contestant in the final voting.

Having followed Neymar at Santos ever since he was a teen, having followed Hazard on his Chelsea stint, I have absolutely no doubts, we have my favorite between the two of them. There are a few things about Neymar's personality that I can't stand. It's not only his diving, but he's selfish, he's a media whore (his right, as he's making tons of money) and sometimes I don't like how he carries himself in the teams - especially Brazil's NT. Hazard has an amazing personality, I do believe he needs more bite and drive, but hopefully that will come, but in general I'd rather have Hazard in my team than Neymar. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by some of Neymar's actions... maybe it isn't important to some people, but it's very important to me.

[DYC. 7,542]

Nah, vision is a tie at worst. Neymar's through balls, crossing, set piece taking ability (something Hazard is awful at) and creativity in the final third is just as good as Hazard's arguably even better. Hazard is definitely the better passer in general play and more intelligent though.

Dribbling is probably equal. Hazard is a more technical dribbler and accelerates quicker but Neymar is more skillful of the two and more explosive over longer distances.

Left footed goals from Neymar. They're about equal there as well.

Again, in terms of all around play there's not much difference between the two. It's goalscoring where Neymar is miles better. Neymar is on course to break Pele's NT record while Eden hasn't even reached double figures yet.

Neymar already has 6 goals this season while Hazard is still stuck on 1.

If Hazard wants a Balon D'or he can't rest on his laurels like so many of fans want him to. He really needs to increase his goal-output this season. He should be getting at least 20 in open play each year.

Neymar truly is a brilliant talent, bar the diving. Brazil Neymar beats Hazard for me, the best offensive talent definitely. Ability wise there's not much of a difference, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. But at the end of day, it's about the impact the player has on a match and there's where he beats Hazard.

He hasn't been able to replicate that kind of form at Barca. But it was his first season and he made a very big move. He's starting to get there though.

Neymar and Hazard in the same team would be amazing btw.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Really? Hazard is one of the most two footed players in the league, its amazing. His placement is in his left and the power is in his right. If you watched the Swansea, Everton or Schalke games you'll see how great his acceleration is, here's just one example

https://vine.co/v/OBO7aHt1eEn

Neymar is very two footed, I remember a lot of left footed curlers scored by him for Brazil and Santos. Hazard is not more two footed, they are equal at worst. Neymar is one fast guy, I don't think Hazard is as fast as him to be honest. Neymar is more skillful, freekicks, and finishing.

Where hazard beats him are in areas I like, hazard is stronger, a better dribbler, passer, team player, vision.

Hazard is never someone that wants to score so many goals, I don't know why we keep wanting him to score 25-30goals. Hazards role model is Zidane (skillful entertaining few goals/assists player)

[Mr Lover Lover 18]

It really depends on what you are looking for in the player imo. Neymar is the better player imo atm

[Weckerz 3,781]

If Hazard wants a Balon D'or he can't rest on his laurels like so many of fans want him to. He really needs to increase his goal-output this season. He should be getting at least 20 in open play each year.

Pretty sure he's not resting on his laurels, in fact he's way more proactive and direct compared to last season. He's just never going be the goalscoring machine you want him to be I think.

If he'll ever win the Ballon d'Or it will not be for scoring 40 goals a season

[LAB 1,030]

Eden engineers goals practically. That's what he likes to do. Can have a great impact to the team just like a 20 goals/season player would do. No comparison imo.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I firmly believe if we had Messi or Ronaldo people would still find reasons to complain...

[Daniel1980 1,425]

I firmly believe if we had Messi or Ronaldo people would still find reasons to complain...

Of course they would. Messi doesn't actually escape criticism. If he has a "meh" game, Barcelona fans furiously argue for many pages whether he's past it or not. The bigger the star, the higher the expectations. It's normal. If people are okay with average performances from a player, it means they don't rate him highly enough to begin with.

And at Chelsea, Jose would be the first to complain about Messi, because his workrate without the ball is non-existent, and more often than not, he just walks around until he gets the ball.

[Tomo 21,733]

There is a new core emerging at this club and Hazard is the most vital part if it.

When he doesn't play the step down in quality at AM is so obvious, look at the Bolton game. Willian, Schurrle, Oscar and Salah are all very good players in their own right, they have strength's to their game but also big weaknesses, they will never be the star man at the club, maybe Oscar if he brushes up a bit but that's it.

Hazard is the man, there's a reason managers double and sometimes triple up on him, because he is THAT good, he won't be someone who takes 20 shots a game and scores 50 goals a season because he isn't that type of player, it kind off what makes him what he is, he always makes the best decision, if the shoot is on he takes it, if the through ball is on he does that, if putting Alan Hutton on his arse is the best decision he does that.. The way he drives at defenders terrifies them, one minute there straigthing him, the next he's away that's why they double up because one on one? forget it.

Even when I think he has had an under par game, I look at the stats afterwards and he has created more chances than anyone else combined, made more dribbles and key passes than any one else combined. That's why I laugh at this rubbish he needs to take responsibility, Cesc and Costa have been making the headlines this season but make no mistake, Hazard is every inch as important to our season as those two if not more.

[Jase 43,479]

Is it just me or every once in a while, this thread will turn into the same old redundant Hazard v Neymar/Messi/Ronaldo/Bale 'thread'?

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho unconcerned by Eden Hazard's form for Chelsea

[iseah100 5,612]

Is it just me or every once in a while, this thread will turn into the same old redundant Hazard v Neymar/Messi/Ronaldo/Bale 'thread'?

Well, there's only so much to talk about.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Well, there's only so much to talk about.

Wth. I was about to say that