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you're ruining the reputation French members have in this forum. Always thoughtful, smart, insightful, they're deeply missed when they are inactive, but you aren't doing us any favors.

The last pages of this thread make me want to vomit. If you guys don't think Hazard is great, that he still has a very high ceiling and that he's going to be one of football biggest star, there are always pages to post bollocks on Arsenal Mania, Blue Moon, Red Cafe, RAWK, etc... they'll be happy to have you.

Hear, hear!

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Cristiano and Messi have bad brought up the soccer lovers. Now we thing that one player dont score 50 goals for season, is not a crack.

In fact, Eden needs to improve his definition, but we cant judge him because dont score the same that Cristiano.

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Cristiano and Messi have bad brought up the soccer lovers. Now we thing that one player dont score 50 goals for season, is not a crack.

In fact, Eden needs to improve his definition, but we cant judge him because dont score the same that Cristiano.

Messi's overall game is what differs him from Ronaldo, unlike Cristiano, Messi is much more of a footballer.

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It's funny when I look at sites like Goal.com or youtube videos etc... whenever there is mention of Hazard, it's usually followed by a few "lol" and "rofl" as if he wasn't taken seriously... I feel that people don't know Hazard, those who don't watch Chelsea that is.

When confronted, they usually answer that he overdribbles, is selfish, can't pass etc... (like a Robinho/Ben Arfa type of player) which is absolutely wrong if they bothered to watch him play 5 minutes. I wonder how comes he is so little known or recognized outside Chelsea/Lille/Belgium fans.

What are you doing reading troll.com and taking youtube videos seriously? Goal.com is literally the worst football site in the world alongside Tribalfootball. There are so many good football discussion platforms out there like Reddit soccer for instance. Most of these people are 10 year olds who like to do "my guy is amazing and your guy is shit", or, "i'll hate on that player because he doesn't play for my club/he plays for Chelsea".

It's best you upgrade where you obtain your daily footballing stuff from.

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you're ruining the reputation French members have in this forum. Always thoughtful, smart, insightful, they're deeply missed when they are inactive, but you aren't doing us any favors.

The last pages of this thread make me want to vomit. If you guys don't think Hazard is great, that he still has a very high ceiling and that he's going to be one of football biggest star, there are always pages to post bollocks on Arsenal Mania, Blue Moon, Red Cafe, RAWK, etc... they'll be happy to have you.

These sites generally tend to have contributors with very intelligent output to contribute. I guess it's because they have a stricter registration process and have more actual FANS than gloryhunters. You'll never see that kind of shit posted on a Red Cafe or a RAWK.

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Have you ever heard of argumentation ? It roughly means providing logical reasoning and material evidences to support your claim/opinion.

You should try it, it's very useful to communicate with people, so that they can see what you mean, maybe even agree with you. Because even if someone's agree with any opinion without hearing any arguments before, then he's a fool who rely on other's fragile and so faillible opinions to build an even more fragile and faillible one.

Logical conclusion, if you never give proper arguments to your statements, you will soon be surrounded by fools, they're the only one who will be willing to speak with you. Then again, if you are a fool yourself, where is the problem right ? Problem is, if, being a fool, you are surrounded by fools, your situation has no chance to get better. But if you at least try to follow the footsteps of the scientific method, maybe then you will catch the attention of less stupid people, and use them to climb the ladder, step by step. But for this you have to try.

Also don't get yourself trapped in the delusion that merely saying "he's 24 in january" is a proper argument. That's the thing with arguments, and their complexity : when you get down that road you have to be coherent with yourself up until the end. So when you are thinking of an argument to support your claims, what you are doing (or should do) simultaneously is considering all the counter-arguments that can weaken the first argument. And if there are too many of them, it means the first is too weak to be considered a proper argument, because it ultimately means nothing. It doesn't mean you should give up your opinion entirely (maybe it does), but that you have to search for stronger arguments that actually mean something.

In this case for example, it takes only 10 seconds of reflexion to think of dozens of counter-arguments to the one that claims that football players are doomed to stagnate past their 24.

So come back again when you actually have facts and reasons with you to support your claims please, until then your words will mean as much as emptiness.

Don't waste you time posting well thought out responses trying to reason with a guy who only posts one-liners. As far as we know, he might be a WUM or a troll trying to incite Chelsea fans and begging for attention.

Just look at his post history. Only one-liner crap. Most likely a wind-up merchant.

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Saw this link that was posted in WAGNH. It's an article where Rene Meulensteen talks about what kind of training he made C Ronaldo do to improve his finishing.

Thought it was very interesting given the discussion people have been having about Eden's finishing.

Hope Mourinho's doing something similar with Hazard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/10272433/The-secrets-behind-the-development-of-Real-Madrids-Cristiano-Ronaldo-revealed-by-Rene-Meulensteen.html

That's my a concern of mine. I hope Mourinho and the coaching staff are actually drumming it into him that he should focus more on finishing drills. I hope they are demanding more and not just trying to improve the mental part of his game or the defensive part i.e tracking back. That won't improve Hazard's finishing. The focus right now has to be more on that above other stuff.

I'm sure a guy like Drogba will be more than happy to help Eden work on his finishing (which has been a problem for him throughout his career, not just this season).

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Exactly.

Look at Drogba, he was bang average as a youngster, then by 30/31 he turned into one of the world's best strikers.

Drogba's finishing was also questionable when he joined us and he was a striker. In his prime, his finishing became brutal.

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