Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Henrique said: Stop the madness mate. Chelsea is not a club that buy players thinking about selling then later. 27 years old is not even close of being "too old'. Actually I believe the problem with this team, is paying too much for players like Hazard and Oscar,  unfinished products. It is though to pay big money. What would the fee be on Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Both Bale and James are overpriced and overrated and neither will want to come here without CL football. It's a moot discussion. And besides, in the hypothetical scenario we do get James, it means Oscar's out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Jason said: Hazard can certainly do more to fulfill his potential but don't think I would classify him as lazy. If he was as lazy as you said, we wouldn't have seen the many of the great performances he put in over the last 2 seasons or so. I seriously don't get why you're using 'wages' to judge the level of expectations (didn't you say it's about fighting for the club and the badge?). When you're playing for Chelsea, you expect the same things from everyone. It's not all about the wages! It is rubbish that Hazard hasn't scored like in nearly 30 games ( ) but comparing an attacking midfielder with two strikers - players who are meant to be scoring goals - seems a tad harsh. Stats do say he's rubbish but in reality, he hasn't reached the Torres-level of point-of-no-return. You have your opinion and others have there's... Like I said many people believe he is lazy (Coach Wilmots) and doesn't work hard enough to reach his potential. Wages are important, you give the biggest wages to those who work the hardest and possess the best skill. You don't reward those who are lazy and not working to their full potential; with the wage demand comes a greater responsibility. Of course as a professional there is a level of commitment that must be met but as a talisman and the highest wage earner the weight is greater, even if only in public opinion. I want everyone to work hard but I don't want my best player and highest earner to be one of the worst in terms of commitment. Maybe that's me but if I pay someone 1M to do a job and I pay someone $5.00 to do the same job, I expect the guy I pay 1M to, to work his ass off. Definitely not the Torres levels but it is extremely alarming, especially right after winning player of the year. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The world needs the invention of anti-Football Manager pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I want Bale for him, he is proven BPL goalscorer, really fast has good technicue and can win games. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 As the president of Real Madrid, Perez has made some mistakes. But he is not that stupid to sell a super star like Bale and buy a player like Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinopik 10 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sell hazard as soon as possible. His peak performance is over. He's no longer want to play for us. His agent has a big influence on his decision to determine his football career, IMO. Any big agent fee offered should tempt Hazard to leave Chelsea. Move on. Find a new key player. I believe in Emenalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Gareth Bale and Eden Hazard could swap Real Madrid and Chelsea (ESPN) #CFC #RMCF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Reports say Real are going to bid £100m for hazard  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12084121/.html   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 If Hazard wants to join Real Madrid only because of Zidane, then he better think twice because knowing Perez, he could easily sack Zidane at any time - even when he's lost only 3 times in 25+ games! If that happens, then what? On another note, given that we're unlikely to play in the Champions League next season, not sure if we're in a position to discuss any swap deal with Madrid (unless we're talking about getting an average player in return). Might fetch a good fee in return though if we just sell him since he signed that new contract not too long ago. Re-investing the money in new players might be difficult as which top player would want to join a club without Champions League football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 38 minutes ago, Jason said: If Hazard wants to join Real Madrid only because of Zidane, then he better think twice because knowing Perez, he could easily sack Zidane at any time - even when he's lost only 3 times in 25+ games! If that happens, then what? On another note, given that we're unlikely to play in the Champions League next season, not sure if we're in a position to discuss any swap deal with Madrid (unless we're talking about getting an average player in return). Might fetch a good fee in return though if we just sell him since he signed that new contract not too long ago. Re-investing the money in new players might be difficult as which top player would want to join a club without Champions League football? If Hazard really wants to go, and the evidence seems to suggest that, then we should definitely cash in. Then we may need to sit on the cash for a season. Don't know if that would work with FFP or whether we'd care about it, but sit on the cash and wait for the right player at the right time to make the investment. The worst time to buy is when everyone and their mamas know you, the buyer, have money to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Robguima said: Then we may need to sit on the cash for a season. Don't know if that would work with FFP or whether we'd care about it, but sit on the cash and wait for the right player at the right time to make the investment. The worst time to buy is when everyone and their mamas know you, the buyer, have money to spend. Not sure if we have the luxury of sitting on the cash for a season considering the current squad is in need of a major surgery. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Not sure if we have the luxury of sitting on the cash for a season considering the current squad is in need of a major surgery. well we can only hope we'd have funds, to add and replace a few players, without having to touch Hazard's sale money - assuming he does get sold. Otherwise we cannot possible replace him anyway. Seen this over and over again: sell a top player and get a few meh to replace him. BTW, they all want to go to Madrid. It has something to do with it being owned by a large bank.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Robguima said: well we can only hope we'd have funds, to add and replace a few players, without having to touch Hazard's sale money - assuming he does get sold. Otherwise we cannot possible replace him anyway. Seen this over and over again: sell a top player and get a few meh to replace him. That is why I don't think we should sell Hazard this summer, not after one bad season. He's too good to just suddenly tail off so badly in 6 months. There must be a good reason or two as to why has that happened (same applies for the rest of the team) rather than he doesn't want to play for us anymore. And if we're talking about selling players, there are others who need to be sold first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just now, Jason said: That is why I don't think we should sell Hazard this summer, not after one bad season. He's too good to just suddenly tail off so badly in 6 months. There must be a good reason or two as to why has that happened (same applies for the rest of the team) rather than he doesn't want to play for us anymore. And if we're talking about selling players, there are others who need to be sold first. oh absolutely, but the premise is that he wants to go. In which case, there is little the club can do. Worse possible outcome is that you force a stay, but fail to convince and motivate the player, so you end up losing both, the money and the player. These are the times the staff have to earn their pay.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,829 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, the wes said: Reports say Real are going to bid £100m for hazard  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12084121/.html    It would be a dick move from Hazard to leave the sinking ship as he is responsible too. 100 million pounds is a of money though.. If we used that money wisely it could be a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! positivefootball 195 Posted January 6, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Special said: As the president of Real Madrid, Perez has made some mistakes. But he is not that stupid to sell a super star like Bale and buy a player like Hazard. Huh? Hazard>>>Bale. Just wait until Hazard plays for a team like Madrid and this thread in the ex-blues will never stop......... The Skipper, Blue Colored Sky, AWorriedChelseaFan and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 we should not sell hazard even for 100million period!!..he is priceless...how can anyone entertain an idea of selling a potential ballon d'or  player?.if he has one more excellent season he will be easily worth 150 million...even that price is not enough for offsetting the trophies he will win for us!! AWorriedChelseaFan and ZOS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 If he really wants to leave then sell him. He has been terrible all season and seems like he's lost interest in playing here. Quality player when he's up to it but his performances say otherwise lately. Ronaldo, messi, Neymar, Suarez, bale, Robben are all better players than Hazard. He has the quality to be at their level but he doesn't seem to be improving here at the moment. If if we sell him we must have a quality replacement lined up, no panic buying   Fulham Broadway and Essien19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:  It would be a dick move from Hazard to leave the sinking ship as he is responsible too. 100 million pounds is a of money though.. If we used that money wisely it could be a great deal. U could get Teixeira stones embolo with that £100m nyikolajevics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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