chelseathebest 150 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You idiot.Typically, Belgians won't admit that he has generally been bad in last matches.And I am idiot when I say what every normal fan can see. If you can't admit it that's your problem and I won't argue. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Mata was poor today aswell.But yeah lets all just blame the 21 y old. Nice and easy.I don't blame HIM, I just say he MUST improve his form.He must regain form from the beginning of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You idiot.You are the idiot here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You are the idiot here. i really don't care what you think. So stop quoting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I don't blame HIM, I just say he MUST improve his form.He must regain form from the beginning of the season.I agree that he needs to regain form but the entire team hasn't been playing well.So why is it just him that's getting criticism ? A 21 y old in his first season. Young players need to be nurtured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted December 16, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted December 16, 2012 Typically, Belgians won't admit that he has generally been bad in last matches.And I am idiot when I say what every normal fan can see. If you can't admit it that's your problem and I won't argue.What are you talking about? He's been doing better the last matches after his dip in form. Do you even watch the games? I doubt it.The criticism towards him is really becoming laughable now. Especially from that deluded Brazilian poster called Henrique, who hasn't got 1 good word of praise for the lad.Perhaps you should start to turn your criticism towards Oscar, who has been playing like shit for 75% of the games he played. But he's Brazilian isn't he. Ofcourse you wouldn't bad mouth him, as the biased fool you are.I will laugh in your faces next season when he's settled in and plays like the Hazard at Lille.Christ people are idiots. Stingray, Mufassir08, Rambo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hazard and Luiz were the best players, and have been for the past couple of weeks. If anything Hazard is regaining his early season form. Mufassir08, nadavTKL and Kieran. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Why all this hate towards hazard?After watching both games,i think he and luiz were our 2 best players on the pitch.People say he didnt care much,witch is not true at allDid you see his face after the game?my son even asked me why he was crying,so it was clearly not the face of someone who didnt care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hope he improves. Right now he's a poor man's Mata.I beg to differ. Hazard cost the club more than Mata did. Kieran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Why all this hate towards hazard?After watching both games,i think he and luiz were our 2 best players on the pitch.People say he didnt care much,witch is not true at allDid you see his face after the game?my son even asked me why he was crying,so it was clearly not the face of someone who didnt careyou dont' understand they are jealous. when he's arrived at chelsea everybody talks about him because he can become one of the best player in the world. it are always the same persons who criticize him and often brazilians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 it's too funny.they analize each hazard's movement at each match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 henrique you never come when he has a good game ahhahahahahahahahahaha Stingray and Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think ppl criticize Hazard because they have high expectations of him. Higher than those for our other players. He's not playing bad by any means. Maybe not up to his normal standards lately, but not bad at all. Also, I don't know where did this brazilian vs. belgian shit talk come from, but that's just not true. I mean, one guy says something and suddenly it's: "brazilians" dislike Hazard/Belgians, wtf? Barbara and MAF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppen 934 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Think he's been an immense player this season, and I can't wait to see the full potential of this world class prospect. That's why I just purchased the white away kit with Hazard on the back... Updates will be coming, ha MAF, Mufassir08 and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Mata was poor today aswell.But yeah lets all just blame the 21 y old. Nice and easy.I'm not blaming ONLY the 21yr old. And I was talking the entire season, not just the last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm not blaming ONLY the 21yr old. And I was talking the entire season, not just the last game.We gotta be patient with the lad. It's his first season and he's young. He's had his ups and downs but all in all he's doing great considering everything. Nonetheless, we shouldn't expect a 21-year-old to be winning games for us all by himself, no matter how good prospect Hazard is. That's specially true when the rest of the team is doing so so and you have a shitty striker. Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 What are you talking about? He's been doing better the last matches after his dip in form. Do you even watch the games? I doubt it.The criticism towards him is really becoming laughable now. Especially from that deluded Brazilian poster called Henrique, who hasn't got 1 good word of praise for the lad.Perhaps you should start to turn your criticism towards Oscar, who has been playing like shit for 75% of the games he played. But he's Brazilian isn't he. Ofcourse you wouldn't bad mouth him, as the biased fool you are.I will laugh in your faces next season when he's settled in and plays like the Hazard at Lille.Christ people are idiots.He's been doing good in matches vs. Nordsj... and Monterrey...But that doesn't mean shit. Look at Torres, he has been great vs those horrible teams, but does that mean he's in good form? Ofc not, he's still the same old shit.I agree that whole team has been bad in some matches and I don't spend much time on this forum so I can't criticize all of them...But that doesn't mean that I blame only Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 He's been doing good in matches vs. Nordsj... and Monterrey...But that doesn't mean shit. Look at Torres, he has been great vs those horrible teams, but does that mean he's in good form? Ofc not, he's still the same old shit.I agree that whole team has been bad in some matches and I don't spend much time on this forum so I can't criticize all of them...But that doesn't mean that I blame only Hazard.But that's only a 15% chance this post is correct, because you see Torres is making these great movements behind the striker and no one his feeding him in.Here let me give you an analysis.Here we have a donkey, look at his facial expression, this is indicating he is hungry to score goals, however he is not moving. Why is that?, well there is a 99% chance that it's because it's a still picture, but forget that, because stating the obvious is too mainstream. So lets go with the 1% chance, Torres (donkey) is not moving simply because it's pointless, there isn't enough service for the donkey, in order for him to have service there must be a better chance of completed passes.This is a cabbage, look where i highlighted the lines in that cabbage, look at the cabbages run, it's simply wanting the ball but there is no feed to it, so then why run?. This team is not working together, that's why Torres isn't scoring, now take another look at the cabbage what do you see?. Exactly again this cabbage is not moving, that's because it's simply not getting the assistance it deserves. I can't see any balls going to that cabbage can you?, exactly, where is that ball, most importantly where are all the other players with it?, there is simply no service and no team offering that service.now here is HazardHere is Hazards stats TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Belgium WCQ 3 1 0 1 6 4 3 5 0 0 Chelsea UCL 4 2 0 2 11 8 3 19 0 0 Belgium Int 4 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Comm 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 Chelsea CC 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Prem 16 0 3 6 36 11 14 42 0 0 Chelsea MLS 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Chelsea CWC 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 5 0 0 Chelsea Super C 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Chelsea WFC 3 0 1 0 5 1 2 11 0 0 Season Totals 34 6 6 11 66 28 24 85 0 0 That is simply not good enough, 36 shots and 3 goals, so how is Torres bad if Torres has a better ratio than that?. You can tell me they play in different positions but the fact of the matter is positions aren't stats, so they are wrong. It shows here that hazard is simply not good enough, not to mention how low his red card and yellow card ratio is.Hazard is one of the weakest players at the moment, it's lucky his pass completion saves him because he would be sold in my book, i also think instead of buying Hazard we should look to getting someone like Joe Allen from Liverpool, his pass completion on a recent basis brilliant. Play him there, at least his pass completion is better, so that will mean he doesn't lose the ball, and then that will also mean that Torres will score, because that adds to another percentage of torres getting the ball more.(i was going to make a longer post but I'm not a good enough poster) Peppen, Bir_CFC and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But that's only a 15% chance this post is correct, because you see Torres is making these great movements behind the striker and no one his feeding him in.Here let me give you an analysis.Here we have a donkey, look at his facial expression, this is indicating he is hungry to score goals, however he is not moving. Why is that?, well there is a 99% chance that it's because it's a still picture, but forget that, because stating the obvious is too mainstream. So lets go with the 1% chance, Torres (donkey) is not moving simply because it's pointless, there isn't enough service for the donkey, in order for him to have service there must be a better chance of completed passes.This is a cabbage, look where i highlighted the lines in that cabbage, look at the cabbages run, it's simply wanting the ball but there is no feed to it, so then why run?. This team is not working together, that's why Torres isn't scoring, now take another look at the cabbage what do you see?. Exactly again this cabbage is not moving, that's because it's simply not getting the assistance it deserves. I can't see any balls going to that cabbage can you?, exactly, where is that ball, most importantly where are all the other players with it?, there is simply no service and no team offering that service.now here is HazardHere is Hazards statsTEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Belgium WCQ 3 1 0 1 6 4 3 5 0 0 Chelsea UCL 4 2 0 2 11 8 3 19 0 0 Belgium Int 4 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Comm 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 Chelsea CC 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Prem 16 0 3 6 36 11 14 42 0 0 Chelsea MLS 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Chelsea CWC 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 5 0 0 Chelsea Super C 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Chelsea WFC 3 0 1 0 5 1 2 11 0 0 Season Totals 34 6 6 11 66 28 24 85 0 0That is simply not good enough, 36 shots and 3 goals, so how is Torres bad if Torres has a better ratio than that?. You can tell me they play in different positions but the fact of the matter is positions aren't stats, so they are wrong. It shows here that hazard is simply not good enough, not to mention how low his red card and yellow card ratio is.Hazard is one of the weakest players at the moment, it's lucky his pass completion saves him because he would be sold in my book, i also think instead of buying Hazard we should look to getting someone like Joe Allen from Liverpool, his pass completion on a recent basis brilliant. Play him there, at least his pass completion is better, so that will mean he doesn't lose the ball, and then that will also mean that Torres will score, because that adds to another percentage of torres getting the ball more.(i was going to make a longer post but I'm not a good enough poster)I am starting to love you Kojo!!! awesome post!ps: my wine just shot right through my nose while laughing. Legend indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Belgium WCQ 3 1 0 1 6 4 3 5 0 0 Chelsea UCL 4 2 0 2 11 8 3 19 0 0 Belgium Int 4 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Comm 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 Chelsea CC 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 Chelsea Prem 16 0 3 6 36 11 14 42 0 0 Chelsea MLS 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Chelsea CWC 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 5 0 0 Chelsea Super C 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Chelsea WFC 3 0 1 0 5 1 2 11 0 0 Season Totals 34 6 6 11 66 28 24 85 0 0That is simply not good enough, 36 shots and 3 goals, so how is Torres bad if Torres has a better ratio than that?. You can tell me they play in different positions but the fact of the matter is positions aren't stats, so they are wrong. It shows here that hazard is simply not good enough, not to mention how low his red card and yellow card ratio is.Hazard is one of the weakest players at the moment, it's lucky his pass completion saves him because he would be sold in my book, i also think instead of buying Hazard we should look to getting someone like Joe Allen from Liverpool, his pass completion on a recent basis brilliant. Play him there, at least his pass completion is better, so that will mean he doesn't lose the ball, and then that will also mean that Torres will score, because that adds to another percentage of torres getting the ball more.(i was going to make a longer post but I'm not a good enough poster)There are chances and chances; the sitter Torres missed against Corinthians is not acceptable. There is no excuse, because that was the wrong decision. It was clearly a tap-in and he tried to power it in. He was under no pressure from defenders either.That type of stats would indeed identify Joe Allen as a good player; the only problem is that he is shit. Or has been shit for liverpool. What's the use of all those completed side passes when the ones that count don't make it? Like I said before, pass completion would lead anyone to believe Gareth Barry is better Messi.Now, to the original point, Hazard has been poor. Teamwork is off, so most players struggle. One of the reasons I theorize that hurt Chelsea's teamwork is that we've got too much of a good thing; Mata and Hazard are the same player. They are both false nines. Considering we already have a false nine in Torres (sorry could not resist), and sometimes our manager even start with Moses, yet another not-a-midfielder wide player, we end up losing the midfield in every fucking match.Hazard at 21 will have ups and downs and it's up to the manager to manage the player. I hope we are not comparing a 28 yo who's been playing the BPL for a long time, with an attacking midfielder who's 21 and is playing in the league for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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