robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 For Chelsea sure, he can only be decent scorer and stay where he is. But I disagree completely that he isn't scoring player. I see so much potential there, the goals against Newcastle and Aston Villa are so identical how he reacts when ball is playing across and he shoots low at the far corner - it's so natural for him ! If only he had set-up and coach to fully unlock him he'd break that 30 goal barrier.It's more surprising that people still say that whole team plays bad, each and every player plays bad and think that's possible for every player to be coincidentally in bad form at the same time. It's absolutely SHOCKING that people can still say that. Actually EVERY time there's a root of the problems which determines the whole thing and how team is doing. IMO this root is not Hazard.Fair enough - I think he's been utter shit on his own. To each his own.However! Being the highest pay does bring more responsibility on him - it's part of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QPR level player tbqhfwe iseah100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Scholes said that Aguero is the only WC player in the EPL.More or less, I would say I agree to his assessment. (only others I would add are either DDG or Thibo) However, Thibo fits either atletico or chelsea. His ballskills are really subpar for one of the spanish teams and munich. "If you look at the quality of player that comes to England I don’t think we have the best players in Europe or in the world," Scholes said on BT Sport."The best players are at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. I think the level below that is probably Paris Saint-Germain and Juventus. And under that is where the quality of English clubs come into it."I really don’t think it’s any surprise. When you think about the quality of players we have, do you think any of the players at our top clubs now would get in the Barcelona team? I very much doubt it."They wouldn’t get in the Real Madrid team or the Bayern Munich team. Maybe Sergio Aguero is the exception." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Scholes has been saying a lot of shit since he started talking.... Pacquiao, Adnane, The Chels and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Scholes has been saying a lot of shit since he started talking.... Well, only thing i disagree is the Juventus thing.Terms of talent, barcelona, madrid, munich and psg are on their own level in europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Scholes today could walk into any top European team. One of the best Midfielders ive ever seen. CHOULO19, Muzchap and Adnane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 At any given moment I consider only XI players to be world class. Hazard is not one of them. If we play a traditional 4-3-3 this would be my world class XI: Crisitano Ronaldo - Suarez - MessiJames - ModricBusquetsAlaba - Godin - Chielinni- LahmNeuer Damn, there really isn't that many fullbacks or centrebacks to choose from. I was really clutching at straws to make this XI. This isn't necessarily the best team, but I do think each player is the or at least one of the best players in their position. While England has a lot of very talented players in the leagues, I don't think any of them are the absolute best. Oscar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,225 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Scholes said that Aguero is the only WC player in the EPL.More or less, I would say I agree to his assessment. (only others I would add are either DDG or Thibo) However, Thibo fits either atletico or chelsea. His ballskills are really subpar for one of the spanish teams and munich. "If you look at the quality of player that comes to England I don’t think we have the best players in Europe or in the world," Scholes said on BT Sport."The best players are at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. I think the level below that is probably Paris Saint-Germain and Juventus. And under that is where the quality of English clubs come into it."I really don’t think it’s any surprise. When you think about the quality of players we have, do you think any of the players at our top clubs now would get in the Barcelona team? I very much doubt it."They wouldn’t get in the Real Madrid team or the Bayern Munich team. Maybe Sergio Aguero is the exception."He actually said Juventus? Well that is confusing as fuck. Also Hazard is a world class player who has started the season well. Schoels seems to be taking this season into account and if he is indeed doing that, then he should not have Aguero there and not have Hazard. Had this been last season, Hazard would have definitely been there. Aguero has been below-par himself this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 At any given moment I consider only XI players to be world class. Hazard is not one of them. If we play a traditional 4-3-3 this would be my world class XI: Crisitano Ronaldo - Suarez - MessiJames - ModricBusquetsAlaba - Godin - Chielinni- LahmNeuer Damn, there really isn't that many fullbacks or centrebacks to choose from. I was really clutching at straws to make this XI. This isn't necessarily the best team, but I do think each player is the or at least one of the best players in their position. While England has a lot of very talented players in the leagues, I don't think any of them are the absolute best.This season?I would take out ronaldo, james, modric, busquets, chilleni, godin and lahm...Based on this season so far...Douglas costa-Lewandowski-mullerMessi-GundoganAlonso-FernandinhoAlaba-ramos-varaneneuerRB might be lahm due to default, however, lahm has really decline as a player since his injury..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 He actually said Juventus? Well that is confusing as fuck. Also Hazard is a world class player who has started the season well. Schoels seems to be taking this season into account and if he is indeed doing that, then he should not have Aguero there and not have Hazard. Had this been last season, Hazard would have definitely been there. Aguero has been below-par himself this season.Hazard would not start on the big 3 teams of europe. If world class is best 11, than hazard is not in there and nor is anyone in the epl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,225 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hazard would not start on the big 3 teams of europe. If world class is best 11, than hazard is not in there and nor is anyone in the epl. Hazard would start at Bayern and Real imo. Are you basing it on his form now because trust me he will rediscover his form. If you said this before the start of the season everyone would say he would walk into most teams in the world bar Barca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hazard would start at Bayern and Real imo. Are you basing it on his form now because trust me he will rediscover his form. If you said this before the start of the season everyone would say he would walk into most teams in the world bar Barca.Real madrid playronaldo-benzema-balejames-modrickroosWith isco as the primary subsitute...Bayern playCosta-lewda-robbenMullerThiago-vidalAlonsoWhere exactly would hazard start?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,225 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Real madrid playronaldo-benzema-balejames-modrickroosWith isco as the primary subsitute...Bayern playCosta-lewda-robbenMullerThiago-vidalAlonsoWhere exactly would hazard start?????? Fair enough but he is still world class and would probably face rotation as in terms of natural ability is better than most players you have listed. Robben is injured all the time and is getting on. I remember when Bayern were linked with a record bid for Hazard over the summer, there fans were drooling over the possibility even though there was no chance. They would have loved him in there team. I will wait till the season ends to see how people change their views on Hazard. If he was actually in Real or Bayern they would have to find a way to put him in because he is too good and of the players you put in those teams I would not actually take any over him. Robben is like 32 and is made of glass and Ronaldo needs creativity to score and does not do much bar goals. Obviously he is better than Hazard but I would not take him exactly over Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This season?I would take out ronaldo, james, modric, busquets, chilleni, godin and lahm...Based on this season so far...Douglas costa-Lewandowski-mullerMessi-GundoganAlonso-FernandinhoAlaba-ramos-varaneneuerRB might be lahm due to default, however, lahm has really decline as a player since his injury.....I haven't seen much this season, so I just went to a default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This season?I would take out ronaldo, james, modric, busquets, chilleni, godin and lahm...Based on this season so far...Douglas costa-Lewandowski-mullerMessi-GundoganAlonso-FernandinhoAlaba-ramos-varaneneuerRB might be lahm due to default, however, lahm has really decline as a player since his injury.....Default rb should obviously be Ivanovic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Real madrid playronaldo-benzema-balejames-modrickroosWith isco as the primary subsitute...Bayern playCosta-lewda-robbenMullerThiago-vidalAlonsoWhere exactly would hazard start?????? Lol he'd start ahead of James, Muller and Costa easily. Get outta here.A kid like Coman has already gone up a level just by playing in that Bayern team (same as Costa) but Eden wouldn't get a sniff? stroey and Stats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Lol he'd start ahead of James, Muller and Costa easily. Get outta here.A kid like Coman has already gone up a level just by playing in that Bayern team (same as Costa) but Eden wouldn't get a sniff?He wouldn't start over any of those 3.Especially not over MR Munchen. THe fact you think Eden hazard would start over Munich's homegrown superstar implies you have no clue what you are talking about. Coman playing is due to injuries and rotation and is not in the starting 11, so coman has nothing to do with it. Kimmich is playing at munich too when he never played any bundesliga matches before. Pep knows his system and plays players that fit it, not on name recognition. Munich's starting 11 when everyone is all healthy isCosta-Robert-RobbenMullerThiago/Vidal-AlonsoThis is considering the fact ribery is done for. Costa and Hazard are two different players.. Costa is direct, fast and whips crosses in all game long. His inclusion to munich is one of the main reasons why lewandowski is scoring at the rate he is. Hazard may be a better player, but Costa is the better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Neymar wouldn't start for Bayern either then. He doesn't whip in crosses lol. Lewandowski is scoring at an high rate because he's a World Class striker (better than Costa for that matter) that's in his form of his life not because of Douglas Costa who's only assisted like 1 or 2 of his goals this season.Muller is an automatic starter because he can play every position which is highly beneficial considering they have so many injury prone players. If Bayern had a fully fit squad and were playing Barcelona tomorrow he'd be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Neymar wouldn't start for Bayern either then. He doesn't whip in crosses lol. Lewandowski is scoring at an high rate because he's a World Class striker (better than Costa for that matter) that's in his form of his life not because of Douglas Costa who's only assisted like 1 or 2 of his goals this season.Muller is an automatic starter because he can play every position which is highly beneficial considering they have so many injury prone players. If Bayern had a fully fit squad and were playing Barcelona tomorrow he'd be on the bench.Muller is an automatic starter because he is world-class and because the man is a warrior, a performer on the big stage.He'd be on the bench... you must've tripped and fallen on a sharp pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Scholes said that Aguero is the only WC player in the EPL.More or less, I would say I agree to his assessment. (only others I would add are either DDG or Thibo) However, Thibo fits either atletico or chelsea. His ballskills are really subpar for one of the spanish teams and munich. "If you look at the quality of player that comes to England I don’t think we have the best players in Europe or in the world," Scholes said on BT Sport."The best players are at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. I think the level below that is probably Paris Saint-Germain and Juventus. And under that is where the quality of English clubs come into it."I really don’t think it’s any surprise. When you think about the quality of players we have, do you think any of the players at our top clubs now would get in the Barcelona team? I very much doubt it."They wouldn’t get in the Real Madrid team or the Bayern Munich team. Maybe Sergio Aguero is the exception."There's a difference between being a starter at Real, Barca or Bayern and being a world-class player.People are so quick to go overboard. I love the drama Scholes has stirred. LDN Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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