Popular Post! dee25 1,044 Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 4, 2015 "Outpour of emotion" he says.. Yes how dare I have the temerity to disagree with Lord Lionsden. If there's one thing that makes me laugh are certain members on here who say things just for the mere sake of being controversial. They look at which way the wind blows and go the opposite way and somehow they actually believe that their opinion is "enlightened" just because they dared to deviate from the norm. It's funny how these people can continuously dish it out, but the moment you challenge their views they resort to straw-man responses like"outpour of emotion". Child please. The Mak, Mufassir08, Thendo and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 We need to get Hazard on the ball. I've noticed this year in some games he simply isn't getting the ball enough. I really think putting him in a no10 role will get him more involved and more dangerous in front of the goal.The closer to the goal he is, the better. The guy is smart enough to play with his back to goal and get out of tight spaces. Putting Eden in the middle also means Willian gets to play in what I believe is his favorite position at left wing, where he can cut in and shoot. Oscar for me will always be a CM. He's just not technically as good as Eden/Willian to play in tight area's, he needs space/freedom. He can only get that playing as a CM/Box to box kinda role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Anyway.Regarding the contract situation. If he's still with the same agent then I'm not surprised it's taking this long. Didn't he make us pay him £6m (an absolutely ridiculous fee for an agent) and was the reason City and United backed off the deal. 300k is just insane especially in this ffp climate and only messi and ronaldo can justify earning that much per week. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Anyway.Regarding the contract situation. If he's still with the same agent then I'm not surprised it's taking this long. Didn't he make us pay him £6m (an absolutely ridiculous fee for an agent) and was the reason City and United backed off the deal. 300k is just insane especially in this ffp climate and only messi and ronaldo can justify earning that much per week.Tbf he is on like £170k already, £250k seems not that big of a increase for someone like him. The problem though is the conflict it might create in the dressing room like Jose said(one of a few things he is actually serious about in his pcs usually) about why we had to reject signing Di Maria, Falcao or Shaw this summer. £300k though I think is a bit ridiculous, I agree only a few players in the world deserve that and Hazard as good as he is, is not in one of them yet(neither is Rooney but point still stand). lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 He binned his agent due to some stuff with his brothers as far as I remember reading and Jose mentioned because he's doing if himself it's taking longer than usual. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Tbf he is on like £170k already, £250k seems not that big of a increase for someone like him. The problem though is the conflict it might create in the dressing room like Jose said(one of a few things he is actually serious about in his pcs usually) about why we had to reject signing Di Maria, Falcao or Shaw this summer. £300k though I think is a bit ridiculous, I agree only a few players in the world deserve that and Hazard as good as he is, is not in one of them yet(neither is Rooney but point still stand).You are right apart from the fact that 300k would put him alongside Rooney as the joint 4th highest paid player in European top flight league, It does set a bad precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 He binned his agent due to some stuff with his brothers as far as I remember reading and Jose mentioned because he's doing if himself it's taking longer than usual.That's strange. I have never heard of a player representing himself at this level. At worst they will use their father or a family member as a rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 That's strange. I have never heard of a player representing himself at this level. At worst they will use their father or a family member as a rep.His father is his agent now. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted February 7, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hazard has had a hand in 8 goals (4 goals, 4 assists) in his last 9 Premier League appearances.The Belgian has also scored in 4 of his last 5 away games for Chelsea in all competitions.Hopefully he keeps this form going until the end of the season. kellzfresh, yuvala, xPetrCechx and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchekitchek 37 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 He played a bit below his level in the last two games, but he had still an assist and a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFC888 219 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Went missing in the second half at Villa as he does sometimes, but another good goal, can't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I fear that eventualy even titles wont be enough to keep him here. The way we play in some games, I think he would fullfill potential in barca or real much sooner with their attacking tactics. And Hazard might start looking at that sooner or later. I just hope he genuinely likes Chelsea and isnt preparing to move eventualy. He is one of most exciting players to watch and it would be giant loss for us if we sell him even for big money. But the thought how he could perform along Bale or Neymar with much less defensive work might start getting into his head.He needs to sign contract as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I fear that eventualy even titles wont be enough to keep him here. The way we play in some games, I think he would fullfill potential in barca or real much sooner with their attacking tactics. And Hazard might start looking at that sooner or later. I just hope he genuinely likes Chelsea and isnt preparing to move eventualy. He is one of most exciting players to watch and it would be giant loss for us if we sell him even for big money. But the thought how he could perform along Bale or Neymar with much less defensive work might start getting into his head.He needs to sign contract as soon as possible.Well Reals attacking hasn't got them very far against Atletico this season.In the biggest games every one has to pull their weight defensively/off the ball because if you don't, you don't win them very often. commilin and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishBlue 426 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The only thing we can do is to enjoy him while he is still a Chelsea player. Yes, maybe he wants to try a new country one day (Spain would suit him I guess) but that's life. I'm just happy that he plays for Chelsea right now and I hope that he will stay for a long time but if he leaves one day, so be it. At least we will get a lot of money for him and then we can buy another star even though Hazard is hard to replace. commilin and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I fear that eventualy even titles wont be enough to keep him here. The way we play in some games, I think he would fullfill potential in barca or real much sooner with their attacking tactics. And Hazard might start looking at that sooner or later.I just hope he genuinely likes Chelsea and isnt preparing to move eventualy. He is one of most exciting players to watch and it would be giant loss for us if we sell him even for big money. But the thought how he could perform along Bale or Neymar with much less defensive work might start getting into his head.He needs to sign contract as soon as possible.I encourage you to watch a few Real games if you think their overall quality is much higher. You go there because you want more celebrity, they are still the biggest team in the world but their football isn't as brilliant as some would have you believe. Also, I think Eden in Eden's head what he wants most is to be a winner. If he wins with Chelsea he's the brightest star in the galaxy, if he goes to Real he's a bolt in a machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well Reals attacking hasn't got them very far against Atletico this season.In the biggest games every one has to pull their weight defensively/off the ball because if you don't, you don't win them very often.I agree there needs to be balance, but I guess most AMs would prefer more free role and more attacking tactics in Hazard case. Dunno maybe he realy enjoys working under Mou and will stay here, we will win couple PL and CLs on the way and he will be happy.But after few years of the way we play specificaly against big sides might give him second thoughts. Sure defending has puropse too, but maybe he will want to attack more and play with more advanced attackers. Considering he is good friend of Oscar and if we ever sell him, its just one more reason for Hazard to leave too. Most times its Hazard who improves our attack, not our players who push Hazard to next level. Until we will be at least as dominant in games like Bayern under Heynckes, Hazard wont realy fullfill his potential here IMO. Sometimes I have idea he is several steps ahead anyone else in team. Azpi who doesnt overlap much, makes few runs in space and has little one twos with Hazard, Oscar who is hot and cold etc. Hazard realy gets little support while playing alot with Marcelo and James at Rm could see him move on next level.And no doubt, even if Real loses sometimes, they will still win trophies too. If Hazard wont sign contract till august, I guess he will be sold. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What I don't get is has there been any concrete Hazard to Madrid rumours bar the fact he idolised Zidane as a kid?With Ronaldo the rumours were spinning for 3 years before he made the switch. The Skipper, Stingray and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I encourage you to watch a few Real games if you think their overall quality is much higher. You go there because you want more celebrity, they are still the biggest team in the world but their football isn't as brilliant as some would have you believe. Also, I think Eden in Eden's head what he wants most is to be a winner. If he wins with Chelsea he's the brightest star in the galaxy, if he goes to Real he's a bolt in a machine.I hope Hazard keeps cool head and doesnt join Rm, but it will be hard to keep him for whole career.Real isnt as good as people point out, but still quite ahead of us in sheer attacking sense than us. Its the injuries and bit unbalanced squad that stops them from winning even more.Besides Hazard plays next to Willian and Oscar who are good players but not even close to his level. Maybe better players around could make Hazard better.Though it has to be said, he has some problems in belgium nt, dont know if its their coach instructions or kdb simply takes more control than Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I hope Hazard keeps cool head and doesnt join Rm, but it will be hard to keep him for whole career.Real isnt as good as people point out, but still quite ahead of us in sheer attacking sense than us. Its the injuries and bit unbalanced squad that stops them from winning even more.Besides Hazard plays next to Willian and Oscar who are good players but not even close to his level. Maybe better players around could make Hazard better.Though it has to be said, he has some problems in belgium nt, dont know if its their coach instructions or kdb simply takes more control than Hazard.I'm not a believer. I think they have a great squad of fantastic players but who makes them tick? Who sets their tempo? who dictates their play? I think Atletico have the blueprint on how to play them and there are a few teams in Europe capable of playing that style and beating them. Great squad with a bunch of match winners but not exactly the most beautiful attacking side out there...I think when you have a team full of stars you dim the light of some. I don't think that Hazard's mentality is to be combative against players with egos and desires to be the best. He doesn't strike me General, he strikes me as a Lieutenant. If someone comes along with a bigger personality on the pitch he will allow them to be the alphaI'm not just saying this because he's a Chelsea player but the best situation for Hazard is here with Jose who is a General and is that big ego maniac who players fall under and follow. I think its best for Eden to have a off field general type than it is for him to have an on field general... At least for him to reach his full potential. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm not a believer. I think they have a great squad of fantastic players but who makes them tick? Who sets their tempo? who dictates their play? I think Atletico have the blueprint on how to play them and their are a few teams in Europe capable of playing that style and beating them. Great squad with a bunch of match winners but not exactly the most beautiful attacking side out there...I think when you have a team full of stars you dim the light of some. I don't think that Hazard's mentality is to be combative against players with egos and desires to be the best. He doesn't strike me General, he strikes me as a Lieutenant. If someone comes along with a bigger personality on the pitch he will allow them to be the alphaI'm not just saying this because he's a Chelsea player but the best situation for Hazard is here with Jose who is a General and is that big ego maniac who players fall under and follow. I think its best for Eden to have a off field general type than it is for him to have an on field general... At least for him to reach his full potential.I would say Modric who is out for a while now. He is their new Makelele, the one who is invisible but does alot of key work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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