zolayes 14,489 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 No, he was rested for the Wales match on Sunday. As was Naingolan I think.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchekitchek 37 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Eden Hazard=massively underrated Styles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Its called ENVY .... but we can GLOAT ,,,Yep...the "Dirty Sanchez" look seems to be in vogue atm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 maybe to be one of the best ever he must win the world cup and he is shit everytime in this competition , i don't understand why because portuguese team is a great teamSorry to say, but Portugal NT are not great anymore. Ronaldo solely carrying Portugal after Figo, Costa retired, and it was very hard even for a great player like him, if others in the team are pretty average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Saw this link that was posted in WAGNH. It's an article where Rene Meulensteen talks about what kind of training he made C Ronaldo do to improve his finishing.Thought it was very interesting given the discussion people have been having about Eden's finishing.Hope Mourinho's doing something similar with Hazard.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/10272433/The-secrets-behind-the-development-of-Real-Madrids-Cristiano-Ronaldo-revealed-by-Rene-Meulensteen.html killer1257, Muzchap, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpl 3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's already 24 in januray , i don't think he gonna improve a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's already 24 in januray , i don't think he gonna improve a lotThe fuck? Frank Lampard, Xavi, Drogba, Ibrahimovic etc beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted November 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's already 24 in januray , i don't think he gonna improve a lotyou're ruining the reputation French members have in this forum. Always thoughtful, smart, insightful, they're deeply missed when they are inactive, but you aren't doing us any favors.The last pages of this thread make me want to vomit. If you guys don't think Hazard is great, that he still has a very high ceiling and that he's going to be one of football biggest star, there are always pages to post bollocks on Arsenal Mania, Blue Moon, Red Cafe, RAWK, etc... they'll be happy to have you. Stingray, Hkibou, petre.ispirescu and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Think we most confront the reality that he won't ever have the goal scoring instincts of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar. But in terms of distribution, flair, control, and elegance, he is the ideal number 10 in world football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 you're ruining the reputation French members have in this forum. Always thoughtful, smart, insightful, they're deeply missed when they are inactive, but you aren't doing us any favors.The last pages of this thread make me want to vomit. If you guys don't think Hazard is great, that he still has a very high ceiling and that he's going to be one of football biggest star, there are always pages to post bollocks on Arsenal Mania, Blue Moon, Red Cafe, RAWK, etc... they'll be happy to have you.Hear, hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Cristiano and Messi have bad brought up the soccer lovers. Now we thing that one player dont score 50 goals for season, is not a crack.In fact, Eden needs to improve his definition, but we cant judge him because dont score the same that Cristiano. DYC., Strike, Atholy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Cristiano and Messi have bad brought up the soccer lovers. Now we thing that one player dont score 50 goals for season, is not a crack.In fact, Eden needs to improve his definition, but we cant judge him because dont score the same that Cristiano. Messi's overall game is what differs him from Ronaldo, unlike Cristiano, Messi is much more of a footballer. lionsden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hkibou 622 Posted November 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's already 24 in januray , i don't think he gonna improve a lotHave you ever heard of argumentation ? It roughly means providing logical reasoning and material evidences to support your claim/opinion.You should try it, it's very useful to communicate with people, so that they can see what you mean, maybe even agree with you. Because even if someone's agree with any opinion without hearing any arguments before, then he's a fool who rely on other's fragile and so faillible opinions to build an even more fragile and faillible one. Logical conclusion, if you never give proper arguments to your statements, you will soon be surrounded by fools, they're the only one who will be willing to speak with you. Then again, if you are a fool yourself, where is the problem right ? Problem is, if, being a fool, you are surrounded by fools, your situation has no chance to get better. But if you at least try to follow the footsteps of the scientific method, maybe then you will catch the attention of less stupid people, and use them to climb the ladder, step by step. But for this you have to try. Also don't get yourself trapped in the delusion that merely saying "he's 24 in january" is a proper argument. That's the thing with arguments, and their complexity : when you get down that road you have to be coherent with yourself up until the end. So when you are thinking of an argument to support your claims, what you are doing (or should do) simultaneously is considering all the counter-arguments that can weaken the first argument. And if there are too many of them, it means the first is too weak to be considered a proper argument, because it ultimately means nothing. It doesn't mean you should give up your opinion entirely (maybe it does), but that you have to search for stronger arguments that actually mean something. In this case for example, it takes only 10 seconds of reflexion to think of dozens of counter-arguments to the one that claims that football players are doomed to stagnate past their 24. So come back again when you actually have facts and reasons with you to support your claims please, until then your words will mean as much as emptiness. Stingray, BlueLion., sutro and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I predict hazards very best moment will come when he is 27, at an age where he becomes a man and a very experienced footballer with natural improvement in his finishing i see him as being phenominal at that age. Hopefully he will still be at chelsea by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 he's already 24 in januray , i don't think he gonna improve a lotClassic case of applying Football Manager to actual football. Mustafa, Strike and Term-X 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 when is he gonna sign a new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpl 3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 only God knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moros 86 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Classic case of applying Football Manager to actual football.Even in FM it doesn't really hold true. Igi26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's funny when I look at sites like Goal.com or youtube videos etc... whenever there is mention of Hazard, it's usually followed by a few "lol" and "rofl" as if he wasn't taken seriously... I feel that people don't know Hazard, those who don't watch Chelsea that is.When confronted, they usually answer that he overdribbles, is selfish, can't pass etc... (like a Robinho/Ben Arfa type of player) which is absolutely wrong if they bothered to watch him play 5 minutes. I wonder how comes he is so little known or recognized outside Chelsea/Lille/Belgium fans.What are you doing reading troll.com and taking youtube videos seriously? Goal.com is literally the worst football site in the world alongside Tribalfootball. There are so many good football discussion platforms out there like Reddit soccer for instance. Most of these people are 10 year olds who like to do "my guy is amazing and your guy is shit", or, "i'll hate on that player because he doesn't play for my club/he plays for Chelsea". It's best you upgrade where you obtain your daily footballing stuff from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 you're ruining the reputation French members have in this forum. Always thoughtful, smart, insightful, they're deeply missed when they are inactive, but you aren't doing us any favors.The last pages of this thread make me want to vomit. If you guys don't think Hazard is great, that he still has a very high ceiling and that he's going to be one of football biggest star, there are always pages to post bollocks on Arsenal Mania, Blue Moon, Red Cafe, RAWK, etc... they'll be happy to have you.These sites generally tend to have contributors with very intelligent output to contribute. I guess it's because they have a stricter registration process and have more actual FANS than gloryhunters. You'll never see that kind of shit posted on a Red Cafe or a RAWK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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